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Title: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 26 January 09 13:40 GMT (UK)
Can someone please look up the Devitt family for me, I have a marriage certificate of Margaret Ann Devitt married August 1880 Grenwich, Kent. Her address at the time was 3 Blissett Street, her father being John Devitt, occ Bricklayer.
I am trying to trace her parents and siblings.
Many thanks.
Sylvie.
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Tati on Monday 26 January 09 14:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Sylvie,

How old was she at the time, and where was she born according to later censuses?  :)
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Barbara F on Monday 26 January 09 14:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Sylvie

Did she marry Henry Pearce?

If so, in 1881 she says she was born Greenwich, in 1891 Manchester and in 1901 Manchester Hulme.

This would suggest that this is her birth registration:

Births Sep 1855  Devitt  Margaret Ann     Chorlton  8c 541

I will try to find her in 1861 and 1871.

Barbara
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 26 January 09 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara
Yes, she did marry Henry Pearce. I wasn't sure where she was born, is Charlton near Manchester?
Any sign of her father John Devitt?
Thanks for helping me.
Sylvie.
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Barbara F on Monday 26 January 09 14:30 GMT (UK)
Sylvie

I have had no luck so far in 1861. 

In 1871 there is a Margaret of the right age and born Manchester  in a Convent in Westminster.  Her occupation is given as "Workroom".  It is a large establishment with many people in the Workroom or Laundry as well as lots of "Scholars". 

I am wondering whether the name of her father on the marriage certificate is a red herring.  Who were the witnesses?

Barbara
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: grandarog on Monday 26 January 09 14:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Silvie :),
                   To answer your Question, Re. Chorlton .Yes it is now in South Manchester Reg District.
                    Regards Rog ;D
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 26 January 09 14:35 GMT (UK)
The witness's on the mariage certificate were James Pearce and Caroline Murray - not much help there I'm afraid!
The Pearce's lived at 13 Blissett Street and Devitt's at 3, Blisset Street on the certificate.
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 26 January 09 14:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks Rog  ;)
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Barbara F on Monday 26 January 09 14:51 GMT (UK)
No sign of a John Devitt in Kent in 1881 who might be her father.

I think that the way forward is to buy the birth certificate unless anyone else has more luck in 1861.


Barbara
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 26 January 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
Ok Barbara, will do. Thanks for your help
Sylvie.
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Barbara F on Monday 26 January 09 15:06 GMT (UK)
Do let us know what the certificate says Sylvie and maybe we can trace her in the 1861.  :)

Barbara
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Monday 26 January 09 15:14 GMT (UK)
Okay, will do.
Thanks Barbara,
Sylvie.
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Wednesday 04 February 09 13:55 GMT (UK)
I have the birth certificate now of Margaret Devitt, born 18th August 1855 5 Mill Street, Hulme, Lancaster.
Father was Patrick Devitt occ Bricklayers labourer
Mother was Ann  (Rourke)

Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Barbara F on Wednesday 04 February 09 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hello Sylvie

I can see a marriage

Mar 1853     
DEVITT  Patrick     Manchester  8d 605   
O'ROURKE  Ann     Manchester  8d 605


and can see Patrick in the 1851 census.  He is 25 born Ireland and a Bricklayer's labourer.  He is lodging in Chorley.

No luck so far in 1861. Will take a further look now I have more information on Patrick.

Barbara
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Wednesday 04 February 09 15:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Barbara
I have just ordered the marriage certificate.
Thanks for helping me.
Sylvia.
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Barbara F on Wednesday 04 February 09 15:03 GMT (UK)
Sylvie

Was there any suggestion on later censuses that Margaret was deaf and dumb?

Struggling to find any of the family in 1861 but there is a girl recorded as M D in a school for the deaf.  There is also a 4 year old MD in the workhouse but she seems a bit young.

Barbara
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Wednesday 04 February 09 15:04 GMT (UK)
Nothing that I have found in any census :-\
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Sylvie on Wednesday 04 February 09 18:08 GMT (UK)
Any sign of Ann O'Rourke in the 1851 census?
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: judev on Saturday 03 July 10 16:06 BST (UK)
I have the birth certificate now of Margaret Devitt, born 18th August 1855 5 Mill Street, Hulme, Lancaster.
Father was Patrick Devitt occ Bricklayers labourer
Mother was Ann  (Rourke)



Hi Sylvie , I found this message searching for Devitt history, My great grandfather John Edward Devitt had a sister Margaret mentioned on the 1871 English census she as born in1856 and he was born in 1859 , the parents were Edward Patrick and Ann , I wonder if there is a possible connection , I can find no trace of Margaret after the 1871 census they lived in Elswick Newcastle on Tyne, John migrated to Australia around 1879. Love to hear from you Judith
Title: Re: Devitt family - census look up please
Post by: Diffie on Sunday 21 April 13 06:31 BST (UK)
I'm also looking for Margaret Devitt b 1855/6 daughter of Edward Patrick Devitt and Ann Unknown  and listed as living in Elswick, Newcastle Upon Tyne in the 1871 census.  Parents Edward and Ann are listed as born Ireland, but Margaret and her younger brother John are listed as born Manchester.  My intuition is that Margaret married Henry Pearce--however intuition doesn't apply under the circumstances!  Given Edward and Ann's ages it seemed likely there would be older children.  I recently purchased the entry of birth for an 1854 birth of Edward Devitt in the sub-district of Chorlton upon Medlock, County of Lancaster.  The Edward on this certificate was born on 21st December 1853 at 2 Ivy Street to Patrick Devitt, labourer, and Ann Devitt formerly Rourke with the 'Signature, description and residence of the informant' "x the mark of Ann Devitt, mother, 2 Ivy Street, Chorlton upon Medlock".  So it seems the Margaret on Sylvie's registration had an older brother Edward Devitt.  I'm still searching for a Margaret born to Edward Patrick rather than Patrick...I'm trying to work out how traditional family naming patterns might apply, however just get more confused!