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My clan appear to come from Donaghmore circa 1780s
Two brothers took 'Kings Shilling' (sorry Republicans) and never went back.
If anyone can provide a few pointers on next moves.. would be well received
:)
David Mansfield
Kent
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I think there was a Captain Ralph Mansfield who owned an estate at Killygordon which is in the parish of Donaghmore.
However, he would have been an English native or planter I would imagine.
Hope this is of help
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Hi
...and many thanks for replying :)
Killygordon
David
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if you go through search eng. google when the box come up type in - Mansfield of Donagmore
then click on Home Family of Killygorden Ireland this link take you to Finn Valley
Mansfield mention
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if you go through search eng. google when the box come up type in - Mansfield of Donagmore
then click on Home Family of Killygorden Ireland this link take you to Finn Valley
Mansfield mention
Well, I couldn't find it ???
It really does help if you can put the link with your post when providing information.
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Here is link to Finn Valley site
http://www.finnvalley.ie/history/donoughmore/index.html
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Thanks, Derrylass. From your link I found mention of Mansfield several times on that page (it's Killygordon not Killygorden which is why googling didn't seem to find it).
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sorry I was in a rush only get One hour on the machine,
have you been on the home family page, go through search eng: when box comes up type in = Homesfamily of Killygordon
If your family were RC and they took the kings shilling I am not suprised they have not been back, you should be asking what happen to the rest of the family because they took the Kings shilling.
You could write to the The National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin 2, Ireland.
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sorry I was in a rush only get One hour on the machine,
have you been on the home family page, go through search eng: when box comes up type in = Homesfamily of Killygordon
If your family were RC and they took the kings shilling I am not suprised they have not been back, you should be asking what happen to the rest of the family because they took the Kings shilling.
You could write to the The National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin 2, Ireland.
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Bless all of you for your help...
Albeit an Englishman by birth... am proud to have Irish Ancestry - whether RC or Protestant... please don't think otherwise ;)
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Hi
Had a quick look at site you mention...
Am not a 'natural' historian... does it look as if the 'Landlord Mansfields' of Killygordon would have been English :'( or Irish ???
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Many BMD notices of Mansfields of Donaghmore on Lindel's site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/donaghmorebmdnotices.htm#Marriages
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Many BMD notices of Mansfields of Donaghmore on Lindel's site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/donaghmorebmdnotices.htm#Marriages
Thanks... I need to find circa/ pre 1789 'activity' ::)
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If you are related to Irish RC and they took the kings shilling, please go with care when looking for Irish RC relatives. It was not the done thing to take the kings shilling or join the police.
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If you are related to Irish RC and they took the kings shilling, please go with care when looking for Irish RC relatives. It was not the done thing to take the kings shilling or join the police.
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The Sin of our Forefathers... [circa 1789] cast a long shadow ::)... did they have 'Police' in 1789?
I'll be sure to tread carefully in the 'Emerald Isle' [circa 2010] 8)
How times have changed ???
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The Irish have a long memory and times have not changed.
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The Irish have a long memory and times have not changed.
How very sad for you... :'(
I like to think that there is good in every soul on this earth... somewhere
However, Good Night and God Bless to you
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I am talking from experience.
You could try the Central Library Letterkenny, Oliver Plunkett Road, Letterkenny, County Donegal.
e-mail: central(at)donegallibrary.ie (replace the (at) with a (@)
You seem to know a lot about your relatives, it would help if you had the townland name.
Taking the kings shilling could mean selling their land.
Most of the Mansfield's seem to be earl's. Where your family in the seat of power?
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I had a look on the micro fich in the Library, they don't have much on Irish History, but I came across a Ann Mansfield born May 1779 to a Alexander and Elizabeth Mansfield at Donaghmore, Tyrone.
Ireland in maps Mansfield - Maunsel
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I have Co. Tyrone ARMSTRONGS who were said to be relatives of Francis MANSFIELD of Ardrummond House, Donegal. I've found biographical data on generations of Mansfields in Donegal (including several in the 1700s-1800s named "Francis") but have yet found no connection between the Donegal Mansfields and Tyrone Armstrongs. My Armstrongs were Protestant and registered births and marriages in the Church of Ireland and Presbyterian churches of Donaghmore parish and surrounding area of Co. Tyrone.
Rev. George Hill's "Plantation Papers" history cites Francis Mansfield as the representative of the family residing at Ardrummond in 1878. This is probably the man referred to in the 1900 biographical article below.
Any suggestions for further research on Francis Mansfield of Donegal and his possible connections to the Armstrongs of County Tyrone would be greatly appreciated.
Annie
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Pittsburgh coal merchant Frank Armstrong's biography in a 1900 business "blue book" magazine includes this:
"A SUCCESSFUL PITTSBURG (PA.) OPERATOR IN COAL MINING. -- MR. FRANCIS ARMSTRONG, one of the most successful coal miners of Pittsburg, Pa., was born in Crosscavanagh, County Tyrone, Ireland, on the 19th day of May, 1844. His ancestors, both paternal and maternal, were natives of Ireland. His father, Francis Armstrong, was a son of James Armstrong, who married Ann McVeety, of Alisabay, County Monaghan. James Armstrong was a large landowner, holding lands in Galbally and in Gortinderragh, as well as in Crosscavanagh, County Tyrone. He was a cousin of Francis Mansfield, of Ardrummond House, of Letterkenny, County Donegall, the owner of Glenby, Galbally and Largylea."
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I had a look on the micro fich in the Library, they don't have much on Irish History, but I came across a Ann Mansfield born May 1779 to a Alexander and Elizabeth Mansfield at Donaghmore, Tyrone.
Ireland in maps Mansfield - Maunsel
Have been on the long road back form ilness... ::)
Glad to see you haven't given up on me... you old softie... thank you for your help :-*
In answer to an earlier question... doubt my forebears were 'aristocrats' but more likely those forced off their land or to do the unthinkable in order to survive!
Thanks
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If you haven’t already seen this book it would be worth trying to access a copy of “Strabane and West Ulster in the 1800s”. This publication contains extracts from the Strabane Morning Post 1812 -1837 edited by Faye Lynsel (Donaghy) Logue. Although many extracts in this book relate to Strabane and its locality there are references in to people in Donegal. You might be interested to know that there are quite a few references to Mansfields living in Donegal at this time.
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Your roots could be Mansfield in Killygordon, Co Donegal. Or maybe the Mansfields in Killygordon, came from your people? This link might help: https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/40907819/killygordon-house-killygordon-county-donegal.
I grew up in Gatehouse that was at the end of avenue where Killygordon House was built. The house was the original site of where Mansfields built a older dwelling. We referred to one of the local fields as "Mansfields" field in Killygordon. They were the original Planter settlers of Killygordon, 1610-ish.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Here's the Street View of Killygordon House. The entrance is about 100 metres east.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qny/
Killygordon townland
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/raphoe-south/donaghmore/killygordan/killygordon/
KG