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Title: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: stonechat on Thursday 22 January 09 22:07 GMT (UK)
Hi

This is now online (no images) at the LDS Pilot site Recordsearch
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0
Found some of mine already
Just a partial transcript (no occupations, but it's good)

Bob
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Lydart on Thursday 22 January 09 22:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that !   

I've just found some of mine too !    I'll look for more later !



Forgot to ask ... what do you suppose this means ?

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Residence: 52, 27, 3, Britannia

They were living in Sask, Battleford
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: stonechat on Thursday 22 January 09 22:29 GMT (UK)
I have some like that
Not sure what it means

I have two families actually living together in Winnipeg

but their mother Caroline (Emma) Edwards seems absent!

Bob
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: KarenM on Thursday 22 January 09 23:51 GMT (UK)
Hmm, that's strange cause I was looking at the originals yesterday  :-\

Karen
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: jeffster on Friday 23 January 09 16:02 GMT (UK)
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Residence: 52, 27, 3, Britannia

That I believe refers to either the previous  land location they were living and/or the present(picture it the area on graph paper) so the bigwigs could find you you...like a vamped up battleship..  Britannia probably refers to the town or something similiar to where they were living in this case may be BC

Jeff
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: jeffster on Friday 23 January 09 16:04 GMT (UK)
Or I think Edmonton or close by  ;D :D ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: AnneMc on Friday 23 January 09 16:32 GMT (UK)
When it first came out I was looking at the actual census pages and last night I went on the site and the census pages are gone. you only get a transcription.  Wonder if they are having problems.  I did manage to find my families on there.

Cheers

Anne
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: cosmac on Friday 23 January 09 17:17 GMT (UK)
Collections Canada
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/western-land-grants/index-e.html

If you enter your relatives name you will get the location of their Land Grant and a map - there are some names that have images of documents attached as well.

The numbers in the 1916 census refer to the location of the land.
First number is the township
Second number is the range
Third is the Meridian
I'm not sure what the name refers to - perhaps the nearest town - place where mail might be picked up?
I did have a good site, I thought through Collections Canada, that explained how to use the coordinates to locate land in the western provinces.  It had a wonderful interactive map but it has been deleted from my favourites and I can't seem to pull it up from Collections Canada - perhaps they have restructured their site.

Debbie
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Friday 23 January 09 19:43 GMT (UK)
When it first came out I was looking at the actual census pages and last night I went on the site and the census pages are gone. you only get a transcription.  Wonder if they are having problems.  I did manage to find my families on there.

Not only are the images gone but the index page where all the collections are listed now says the 1916 census database has no images. I hope it's temporary too.

Jacquie
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: KarenM on Friday 23 January 09 19:45 GMT (UK)
I wonder if it got overloaded?  I know it seemed like forever to get the images downloaded  :-\

Karen
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Friday 23 January 09 21:17 GMT (UK)
I wonder if it got overloaded?  I know it seemed like forever to get the images downloaded  :-\

I never had a problem with the amount of time to download an image but then I do most of my research during off-peak hours.

Let's keep our fingers crossed (figuratively since it would be hard to type otherwise  ;) ) that they will be back.

Jacquie
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 24 January 09 16:34 GMT (UK)
I can't help feeling it was some sort of problem - some cheshire records disappeared with tales of legal issues never to come back
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: KarenM on Saturday 24 January 09 21:41 GMT (UK)
Ancestry.ca will have the 1916 census on their site shortly apparently.

Karen
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Sunday 25 January 09 22:12 GMT (UK)
I can't help feeling it was some sort of problem - some cheshire records disappeared with tales of legal issues never to come back
There are Cheshire Church of England burial, christening and marriage records and Cheshire Register of Electors records with images at the site now. Were different records taken down? If those are the records you were referring to then there is hope that the images for the 1916 census will be back.

Jacquie
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: stonechat on Monday 26 January 09 06:19 GMT (UK)
No the Cheshire records have not come back - LOTS of parish records called undindexed records

Bob
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: stonechat on Monday 26 January 09 06:21 GMT (UK)
PS I located the spuses family of one of my lot
They were Icelandic extraction so the names are a little difficult

I was looking for Pauline Johnson (Palina Jonsson) with parents Philip and Thordis

They were transcribed Adolph and Thordis Johnan, Pauline was Bealin.

Bob
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Monday 26 January 09 06:46 GMT (UK)
No the Cheshire records have not come back - LOTS of parish records called undindexed records

Bob

The Chelshire Church of England BMD databases are indexed by name.

Jacquie
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: stonechat on Monday 26 January 09 10:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

This was another larger database of CHeshire PRs
Absolutely no indexing, you had to wade through the pages, but it was fantastic for a county under-represented in IGI. It was pulled within a week!

Bob
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Timberhawk on Friday 21 August 09 08:00 BST (UK)

Forgot to ask ... what do you suppose this means ?

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Residence: 52, 27, 3, Britannia


These numbers refer to the land location where they were residing.

Here is a link that describes the system in Saskatchewan.  Alberta works the same way as does the part of Manitoba that lies west of the 1st or prime meridian.
 
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansk/Saskatchewan/homesteadlocation.html

Type at you later...

KDB
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Lydart on Friday 21 August 09 08:23 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat, Timberhawk !   You'll be a very useful person to have on board, and I hope you'll find RC people useful to you too !


I finally understand the system from that link you gave !   Many thanks.
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: canadian_girl on Tuesday 05 January 10 08:18 GMT (UK)
That number is a legal land description, used primarily for rural homes. Britannia would probably be the municipality, Saskatchewan is very into the municipalities,, more so that Alberta or anywhere else I am sure.

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Residence: 52, 27, 3, Britannia

That I believe refers to either the previous  land location they were living and/or the present(picture it the area on graph paper) so the bigwigs could find you you...like a vamped up battleship..  Britannia probably refers to the town or something similiar to where they were living in this case may be BC

Jeff

Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Mike Fisher on Thursday 30 September 10 12:13 BST (UK)
Hi All

I can't seem to find the 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan on the family search pilot site, I am looking for Leslie Artiss and his wife Ann who show up on Ancestry( no worldwide sub) as Artiss Leslie and Artiss Ann.

What am I doing wrong ?

Mike
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: KarieK on Thursday 30 September 10 17:17 BST (UK)
Hi
I am trying to use the Record Search and the screen comes up blank, I had this happen before and had to update the browser but can't remember how to do it.  Is it my PC or is anyone else experiencing problems with FHS sites
Karen
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: susano on Thursday 30 September 10 18:56 BST (UK)
Hi Mike

The 1916 Canada Census for Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba is only available on Ancestry.

You may want to start a new thread with a look-up request for your family members.

Susan
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: Mike Fisher on Thursday 30 September 10 19:13 BST (UK)
Why does the start of this thread say it is available on family search pilot

Thursday 22 January 09 22:07 GMT

"This is now online (no images) at the LDS Pilot site Recordsearch
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0
Found some of mine already
Just a partial transcript (no occupations, but it's good)

Bob "


regards Mike
Title: Re: 1916 Census of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan
Post by: susano on Thursday 30 September 10 19:42 BST (UK)
Hi Mike

There is a discussion of what happened at the following site:
http://static.automatedgenealogy.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10999

In a nutshell, my understanding is that Ancestry paid for the digitization and owns the rights to publish it.

I have read of other instances where images of parish records, etc. have appeared on the familysearch site for a short period of time and then were removed and have not been put back up.  Some lucky researchers were in the right place at the right time to take advantage of it.

If you would like someone to look-up your family on the 1916 Census, I would suggest starting a new thread on the Canada board with the request.  The 1916 Census is also available on microfilm from the Library and Archives Canada or at your library if it has Ancestry library edition.

Regards, Susan