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Can sanyone say when the 1911 census will be available for Glamorgan. It seems so unfair to have to wait just because your forebears lived in Wales.
Yours not happy,
Rob. :-[ :-[
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Hi Rob,
As far as I'm aware at the moment, there will be a 2 month wait before we get the 1911 census for Wales. However, as some English counties still have yet to publish their census returns I'm assuming that not all of the Welsh counties will be released together either. The county borders for Wales moved about a lot during those days so with Glamorganshire being the size it was it will probably either be amongst the first or last to be published. Whatever happens, I'm guessing that 2 months wait might grow to 3 as they're running behind on the English returns. I hope that is of some help to you.
Regards,
Goleudy
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That is helpful will someone post a note here when they are available??
Rob.
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I am waiting with impatience for 1911 Wales, Glamorgan in particular. If no one else posts here when it is online....I will, can't wait!!!! ::)
Cas :)
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I remember the 1901 coming out when I had just started doing my tree - I just couldn't believe how far back I got from that. The 1911 is going to be a godsend if my relatives have actually put down their birthplaces instead of just ''Ireland''.
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It was very unclear when 1911 first went on-line that Wales would not be available.
I purchased credits mainly to look at Glamorgan, & am very annoyed that I could have hung on until it was! It really wasn't made plain in the Press that this was going to be the case...
Romilly ??? ???
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I agree Romilly! but just have to be patient. Grrrrrrrrrr ???
Cas
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I've been making do with the very few siblings of my direct lines who weren't in Wales at the time, but it's a very poor substitute. I'm so looking forward to seeing their writing and I might find out how many children my g-grandmother really had. My father claimed it was over 20! :o
::)
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I'm looking forward to finding out wjere my great grandmother was in 1911 She married a sailor so if she's not Wales there's only about 50 countries to check out. It's an easy life eh??
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Hi All,
I have now had a reply form the 1911 Census Team to my query as to when Glamorganshire will come on-line. Although it says that my query 'has now been resolved', - it doesn't give a clear answer!
'Please accept our apologies for the delay of response - this was due to an unforeseen error.
I am afraid we have no set date for the completion of our records except to say that we hope to have everything complete by the spring of this year.
You can check our blog for updates and news - blog.1911census.co.uk'.
And so Glamorganshire will be 'live' on the 1911 possibly this Spring?
Romilly ::)
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so is that the spring that starts March 21st or the less defined version somewhere between winter & summer? ::)
Roll on the warmer weather then!
;D
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so is that the spring that starts March 21st or the less defined version somewhere between winter & summer? ::)
Roll on the warmer weather then!
;D
LOL...I'll second that ;D ;D
What still isn't clear is whether they're intending to put them on in the order that they have them listed on the site, -
The following counties and establishments are currently not available:
Wales:
Anglesey
Brecknockshire
Carnarvonshire
Cardiganshire
Carmarthenshire
Denbighshire
Flintshire
Glamorgan
Merionethshire
Montgomeryshire
Monmouthshire
Pembrokeshire
Radnorshire
England:
Durham
Cumberland
Northumberland
Westmorland
Yorkshire, East Riding and North Riding
If that is the case, - then its going to be very frustrating waiting for them to get to Glamorgan!!
Romilly ::) ::)
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they did England in PIECE number order I believe .... ie radiating out from London.
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I remember the 1901 coming out when I had just started doing my tree - I just couldn't believe how far back I got from that. The 1911 is going to be a godsend if my relatives have actually put down their birthplaces instead of just ''Ireland''.
My main ancestors are from Denbighshire, plus my blacksheep who migrated to Glamorganshire so I too am waiting impatiently for the Welsh Census to appear. I have however been successful in finding an English person who married into my line and it did indeed mention his father was from Dublin rather than just Ireland, so that has been very helpful in trying to trace him. Be aware it is very costly to use the census, and however many 'free searches' you do, you can still choose the wrong person. Many place names are also misspelt, especially Welsh ones so something else to watch out for.
Kind regards
Nerys
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hi
i'm also waiting for the 1911 census for glamorgan
both my mothers parents were born in cardiff
my mother was also born there but passed away in 1985
i have no family to ask any questions or find info
i can only trace my dempsey family back to 1861 wales census where they state born ireland :-[
i suppose i will just have to be patient :-\
berni
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That's what I'm hoping for cnerys - Tipperary, Cork, Wexford and Waterford are not great helps (unless they came from the city rather than the county)
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Here's the latest update on the order of scanning for the 1911.
(Btw, they're saying 'Summer 2009' for Wales now:-(((
Romilly ::) ::) ::)
'Order of scanning of remaining counties
February 6th, 2009
We thought we’d give you an update on the remaining counties and approximately when they will appear on the site. Please note that the dates are highly approximate, but we prefer to give you a rough guide rather than a firm date that we might miss. Please don’t plan your holidays around them…
The list below is the order of scanning the documents: this might not necessarily be the order the counties actually appear on the site but it should be reasonably close.
The remaining English counties should all be available on the site within two months - the best indication we can give for Wales, Islands and Military at present is summer 2009 but we hope this is more useful than saying nothing! As soon as we can give a closer indication on specific counties and a better steer on Wales, we will.
Order of scanning:
* Yorkshire, East Riding (with York)
* Yorkshire, North Riding
* Durham
* Northumberland
* Cumberland
* Westmorland
* Monmouthshire
* Glamorganshire
* Carmarthenshire
* Pembrokeshire
* Cardiganshire
* Brecknockshire
* Radnorshire
* Montgomeryshire
* Flintshire
* Denbighshire
* Merionethshire
* Carnarvonshire
* Anglesey'.
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groan.... we have to wait until the SUMMER !! :'( :'(
don't think I have enough patience! grrrr
Newbie
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Thanks for the update, just have to be patient.....sigh ::)
Cas
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Thanks for the update.
I e-mailed findmy past this week to find out about the 1901 census
for Glamotgan and was told it should be in the Spring of 2009. I know it
is on other sites but I have signed up with them
Sylvia
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We are having a summer this year then? :P
Kooky
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;D well we can hope we do! but a comment on 1911 blog asks whose summer do they mean when they say they hope it will be released in summer, because in Oz it would be a lot later! or maybe it should be now - are they still in summer down under? ::)
newbie
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I spoke to the 'FindMyPast' people yesterday, - & they said they are hoping to have Wales 'live' very soon...!!
They wouldn't give a definate date though... ???
Romilly.
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as patience is a virtue, we must all be getting towards sainthood...
::)
;D
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I just hope our patience is rewarded ;D
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Here's the latest update from the 1911 blog...
'Scanning of all English counties complete
February 28th, 2009
Just to let you know that we have now scanned all English counties and have started on Wales. We anticipate that the East and North Ridings of Yorkshire, and Durham will be available by the end of March. Happy St David’s day!'
It would have been a happier St David's day if some of Wales had gone on-line!!
Romilly.
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It was mentioned on last week's 'Look up Your Genes' on Radio Wales that the census was due to be online at the end of the summer. Don't know where they got the info or if that meant for the whole of Wales to be available, so that Monmouthshire & Glam would be earlier than that...
Here's hoping it's sooner rather than later.
::)
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I agree, switched from ancestry to findmypast for 1911 data, but it has not what ancestry has disapointed in 1851 and 1901 census.
Not done much look ups with time and has not helped with my family history so far time will tell just have to wait. :P
cas
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If that list of the order of scanning is to be believed, - then they will start with Monmouthshire & then move onto Glamorgan.
Perhaps the 'end of summer' quote refers to all of Wales being available by then?
I hate waiting for things...
Romilly ???
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that's certainly what I'm hoping, Romilly. Still can't find a really impatient smiley!
Cas, I agree with you about FindMyPast. For all the problems with Ancestry's transcriptions, at least they have all the years , you can see the transcribed birth place and compare the years in one search instead of searching year by year.
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Oh I hate playing the waiting game, someone had a really angry smiley on a posting the other day I could do with that one! its sooo frustrating! ::)
My A** sub ran out last year and I haven't renewed because I wasn't sure whether to go with FindMyPast but I've already spent £75 on the 1911 - well worth it I think, £3.00 per image instead of £45.00! Now I just have to decide whether to go back to Anc* or jump into FindMyPast.
newbie :)
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I'm looking forward to seeing Glamorgan too. Apparently some thing is missing from central Cardiff. I hope it won't affect my ability to find all my Irish/ Greek/Welsh ancestors :)
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All English counties now complete
April 8th, 2009
Overnight, we have uploaded records for the remaining English Counties (Northumberland, Cumberland, Westmorland) and added the missing Gateshead district records into the county of Durham (they were incorrectly listed as part of Northumberland - this is now fixed and they are searchable under Durham, as they should be).
Therefore all English counties are now complete.
Scanning of Welsh records is well underway and we are working on the transcriptions of the first batch of Welsh counties, which will be the next data release. Although we do not have a precise release date for them yet, we anticipate that we will have some data from Wales available in the next 4 to 6 weeks.
Not long now for Glamoran
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You can get access under the FOI act but you then have to travel to Kew in order to do the search yourself. I checked recentkly to see how tyhe transcription was getting on - still no progress on Glamorgan. Is there someone to complain to at the census site??
Rob.
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Hi Jennyrob,
Can you do lookups on the welsh census??
Rob.
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That was info from the 1911 Census website
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Thank you for the update jennyrob ~ that's good news :)
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How much will it cost to see it? I assume it's pay per view. That makes it awkward when you're overseas.
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How much will it cost to see it? I assume it's pay per view. That makes it awkward when you're overseas.
All of the payment details are on the www.findmypast.com site.
Romilly.
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I emailed FindMyPast last month asking when the Glamorgan census, or even anywhere in Wales, would be available....received a reply back saying 'should be in the summer'. Am SO very impatient, I suppose there's hope on the horizon but with such a vague answer it's hard to get excited! :-\
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the 1911 blog from April 8th said scanning of the Welsh counties was well under way and 'some data' should be available in 4 - 6 weeks. So probably start of June before we see anything.
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So probably start of June before we see anything.
and knowing my luck it will be when I'm on holiday ! so about 19th June ...
::)
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Here's the latest 1911 Blog update:
http://blog.1911census.co.uk/2009/02/order-of-scanning-of-remaining-counties/
They still don't seem to have come up with a definate date...:-(
Perhaps they will if a few more peeps have a moan ;D ;D
Romilly ;)
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Glamorgan should be at the top ;D Im due to visit Bridgend and 3 villages in 2 weeks, had hoped it would be out by then, am ready to implode.
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well what did I say earlier! a new post on the 1911 blog suggests that Glamorgan will be online by end of June! when I'm on holiday!!!grrrrrrrrrr
newbie >:(
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and the latest, courtesy of Gadget
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=380530.new
and breathe.....
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No news since May 7th :(
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Every time there's another date put out for the transcription of the census for 1911 glamaorgan one senses the all pervasive smell of what comes out of the back of cows.
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I've just been looking at my grandparents in Barry, so some of Glam is on line....
;D
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Hi,
Several of my ancestors are there for Pontypridd, too! ;D
Best wishes
Rockford
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Thanks for letting us know.
I have just found some of mine in Cardiff.
Sylvia :D
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Still no sign of my Mum's Uncle John Parry b. 1878 :-\
Where was he ???
Gadget
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Hi Sylvia,
Were your relatives in Central Cardiff?
I cannot find my grandfather, my dad or his siblings in the 1911. :'(
I read somewhere that were a few problems with Central Cardiff records being missing. I have really been looking forward to seeing my dads name and learning what his siblings first names were :'( They were all called by their second names for some reason, so can't find their births either.
Ambers
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Hello Ambers
Yes mine were from Central Cardiff areas Newport Road and Canton I could not believe my luck. The only problem now is how many should I try to find.
I am used to using findmy past which I pay once a year so now I will have to think first if I really need to look.
Sorry you coud not find your family
Sylvia
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Thanks Sylvia,
Mine were all in Woodville Road, but still can't find them.
Hopefully thay haven't completed it all for Cardiff yet or they are amongst the missing records.
Ambers
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Hello Ambers
I Just checked and Woodville Road is definately there.
If you click search for a place you will find it. Whether your relatives are
shown or not I do not know
Good Luck
Sylvia
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Don't suppose anyone knows the extent of Glamorgan that has been transcribed? I saw an article on BBC news website about Kylie Minogue's relatives appearing on the 1911 census - it's Maesteg that interests me, but I'm not signing up until I know my records will be on there
Cheers!
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Hello Halfasleep
If you put the address in where it says search for a place you may find Maesteg
Sylvia
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Cheers for that Sylvia - just been having a little nose - haven't found any matches on my guys, so poss not on there yet. Did get a match back for someone with the same name in Neath (although I think it should be Swansea - Llansamlet) as I know this person is a false match from the 1901.
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Update - Maesteg is on there - looks mlike have mistranscribed the name. Did a search solely on the surname and town.
Here's to knocking down brick walls (hopefully!) ;)
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Im interested in Maesteg too! Cant find my great grandad :( Have just spent £25 but got one fairly distant family. None of my Aberkenfig lot are there either.
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Definately got Maesteg on there - some poor transcriptions, even on basic names (like John!!).
I've been searching by surname only and trying to locate specific names I know. Shame they don't give a little more info (such as a street name) as Maesteg simply shows up as being Bridgend (which also covers a lot of Glamorgan).
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Hi Sylvia, many thanks :-*
I never thought of the address search, so wasted money last night looking ::)
;D I have got them now, could cry with joy ;D
I don't know what was wrong last night because when I search their names now, they show up on the census ::)....plus two brothers of my ggrandma staying the night, another little twig added ;)
Ambers
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Well Done I am so pleased for you.
Sylvia
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whoo, I've broken a brick wall ;D
now found out where my grfather was born! not just in Ireland!
well worth the pennies.
Newbie :D
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I've just used the 1911 census for Glamorgan. No problems!
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Seems that Maesteg and Bridgend area is definately ok - seen some dubious transcriptions though! Still missing my gt gt grandfather - appears he was not home at the time, and too common a name (and insufficient info) to track him down - the brickwall is here to stay methinks!
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I've just found some of my lot on Carmarthenshire but it's quite pricey to look at the transcript isn't it?
£6.95 for 60 credits
£24.95 for 280 credits
£49.95 for 600 credits.
When you need 30 to look at one transcript that's a bit much! :o
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10 for a transcript, 30 for a copy of the original page.
I've just got a load of transcripts at the moment, with one or two originals where I want to see specific info (i.e where exactly in Ireland they were born) as I don;t really trust the transcripts.
one of my transcripts has the ages out by 10 years on all members of the family - parents and children. Not looked at the original, but know the trancript ages to be wrong due to prev census returns and various certificates
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Sorry I meant page when I said transcript - blame the shock of seeing the price. ;D
I wouldn't want the transcript, I want to see the actual pages for myself, so I shall have to think about it. :(
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I know what you mean, and I can't really justify the amount of money I need to spend to get all my 1911 relatives looked up (especially the random Evans!).
I'll make do with transcripts until it comes down in price or appears on Ancestry (at which point I'll abuse the free library access ;D)
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There are some tips on the board somewhere to get the most out of searching on the 1911, I've used some, really helpful, one is to use other members of the household to pin down some, I usually put just the surname and one of the names that are unlikely to have been mistranscribed as the other member and then up they all pop!
newbie
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I know what you mean, and I can't really justify the amount of money I need to spend to get all my 1911 relatives looked up (especially the random Evans!).
I'm in the same boat with my Lewis side - loads of them! ;D
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I think my biggest gripe is that when the 1901 came on line, I could search for Elizabeth Evans, and it would at least narrow the parish down to Llangynwyd, rather than Bridgend - if 1911 did this, I'd be able to probably a lot of my matches without wasting credits.
Bridgend or Glamorgan is too general for common names. I've tried locating a Harriet Evans, married to David Evans - still had a full page of matches in Glamorgan (as I do not know where they were - moved around a lot). That's potentially 100 credits on transcripts in order to find two people.
Even worse when John marries Mary!
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At last I have found my Bradnums in the 1911 :D
Transcribers can only put down what they see....so ggrand-dads writing and spelling are totally to blame. ::)
I expected the surname to be mis-transcribed as is usual, so hats off to the transcriber because it looks more like Beadman, than Bradnum. His wife and a child are spelled as Marther instead of Martha, and he got a middle name wrong for one of them >:(
Who is Jenny Elizabeth b1905 and where is Jenny b1895, who was always called Edith and married under that name ??? ....no one has heard of a Jenny at all.
Why use initials for himself and names for the rest of the family ??? Thomas Charles is written as Tomas Chalks.
And why when I ticked variants and Wildcards did nothing show up.
I found them by using the address search again from various certificates I have... but I won't always be that lucky.
Now where are my Summers family :-\
Ambers
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Hello ambers
OOh well done! Glad you found them! After feeling all positive I am now in a deep doom, I can't find some of mine at all and I've checked all sorts of misspelling. What should be easy is turning into a nightmare! I'm going nuts, how many ways can you misspell Ford? I've tried variants wildcards etc with no luck I've looked for other members of the family found one with her grandad but where are the others!
I found searching by birthplace helped before with year (approx) of birth and using no first name but no luck yet
The search goes on....
newbie
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Hello Newbie,
Sorry that you are also having problems with the searches, it's driving me nuts too >:(
Sometimes I can find them one way but not another! The address search appears to be the best one for me or the first page listing the name only...not good if they have a common name :-\.
The advanced search using variants doesn't work for me, even when I have all the correct details after I have found the original another way....I can't believe that. ???
Ambers
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I've been lucky with some mis-transcriptions simply because I am aware that the family remained in the same house until the 1960's, but on my less well known ancestors, I'm having no luck - I have 1901 results on every member of my family bar one, but 1911 is proving very difficult to nail these people down.
Again, Evans - I have seen it as Evens, Evan, and Even, but how many other variations are there out there? I've even gone so far as to search outside Glamorgan (i.e. nationwide), but still nothing?
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Halfasheep, thats my problem too. I want Aberkenfig and surrounding villages but it's all under 'Bridgend'. And when you have the surnames Price and Roberts, theres rather a lot! Grrr.
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And let's face it, Aberkenfig is hardly a sprawling metropolis is it! I'm sure I drove through it last bank holiday without realising ;D
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Lololol. Did the kids throwing stones at the cars not give it away?
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Hi halfasheep,
Like you I managed to find my Evans family using the address facility but they are difficult searches otherwise. ::)
My ggrandfather acquired a middle initial (D) in the1901, well at least I say that having never found his birth certificate... Evan Evans
In the 1911 he decided to enter his full name Evan David Evans, but I thought clicking variants would have covered that. All the children were called by their second names and although I was aware of my dad's first name I still struggled to find him. I expected hundreds of Evan Evans's to come up ???
I thought it was me when I couldn't find anyone...I am working on less is better now by using just the name.
Ambers
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Hmm. Well I've had mixed results really!
Am slightly confused about how someone can be Alice Nash (dau) in 1901 and then Alic Nash (son - & carpentering app!) by 1911.
Someone was confused.
Had hoped it would help me through a brick wall with Bridget Fitzgerald but unfortunately not.
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Rachel, I had one like that in earlier years, Gwen daughter aged 2, was Gwilym son aged 12, 10 years later. Married with a son called Gwilym of his own in 1911. I've put it down to enumerator error for the daughter bit.
::) ::)
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Just back from hols...to find that Wales has now gone 'live'.
But so far... :o its been a total disappointment for me :'( :'(
I've found my Grandfather, William James Wilson, living at 93 St Helen's Road with my Grandmother & five of their sons, - but absolutely nothing new!! He still gives his place of birth as 'Manchester, Lancs.' & he's 51yrs in 1911, (41 in 1901) & so according to the 'Family Tree' Census calculator that gives him a DOB of approx April 1859 to March 1860...
Although on his Marriage Cert, in June 1893...he's 32yrs old.
However, according to Free BMD, the only likely candidates are a James William Wilson born Manchester July/Aug/Sept Quarter 1859 or a William James Wilson born Liverpool Jan/Feb/March Quarter 1860...
And I was so hoping that he might have a Manchester rellie staying on Census night, - so that I had something to go on!!
Incidentally, there were 4 errors on the family transcript page for this entry!! I've reported them now & so hopefully they will be ammended.
Romilly.
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Hi Romilly,
Glad you found him on the 1911 ! I am still struggling with quite a few of mine, just cannot find them I've tried absolutely everything, I am now cross eyed and exhausted! Every spare minute I'm back trying again it's so frustrating..... never mind, maybe when someone else has them on subscription i'll be able to find them!
Newbie ;D
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Do you have to buy credits before searching for people? because Ive been on the 1911 site a few times and searched for a few people I know were about then and it says "we found no records for this search" everytime. ???
Duke
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Charles, you can search without buying credits. Then when you buy credits you can click on 'last search results' or something like that and it takes you to the results you wanted. Obviously you'd need to log in before doing anything I think but its free to register.
I've had hardly any luck at all, am sooo disappointed. Wish we could search like on Ancestry.
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Well Im either doing something wrong or Im like the most unluckiest person ever! haha Ive searched for about 10 - 20 people and its said no result everytime. :(
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:( oh dear. Try wider search terms, like a year of birth then click on 5 to give it a 5 year estimation. Or leave the county you expect them to be in blank, and just give birthplace? No-one seems really lucky with it, sadly.
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My searches are Carmarthenshire and I've so far found everyone I'm looking for, so am I just lucky, or is Glamorganshire particularly badly done? ???
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Ive tried searching for people in carmarthenshire too but its always the same "no result found"
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Charles VIII you could always post a new topic and ask for some help you never know, whilst we may not be able to use credits to view for you we can search for free ;)
newbie
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"no result found"
I've never had that come up - give us a name?
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Morgan Charles. born 1871 in maesteg living in Port Talbot (glamorgan) or if you want to try some one in carmarthen:- Rachel Charles. born 1842 in Llanddeusant, Llandovery, Carmarthenshire. Thanks
Duke
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Rachel Charles comes up as born in 1843 and living in Llandovery.
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:o So why doesnt it come up when I try it >:( Could you send me the link please? :) Thank you for finding her too! at least I know Im not crazy! haha
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http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results4.aspx?x=580280757
Hope the link works - let me know.
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Hi bev I tried the link but it isn't working for me just the 1911 home page comes up. But I found her no problem with searching for just a Rachel Charles, no birth date and then just scrolled down the list.
newbie
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Good - at least that's one! ;D
The only Morgan Charles whose birth date matches is living in Bristol, but is "Charles Morgan Charles."
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I found one Morgan Charles he's in Bristol Gloucestershire, but I tried reversing the names, found 2 pages of Charles Morgan's in Glamorganshire 1871 +/- 5 yrs, I don't know the reg district for Port Talbot to narrow the search further. ::)
newbie
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I can see rachel! ;D Thanx for all the help Bevbee! Morgan is still a bit of a mystery I wonder if its worth buying some credit to see if the one in Bristol is my one and hes away with work or something. He was a Railwaystoker so maybe he was just away ...... we'll see. Thanx again for the help people!
Duke
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It is worth remembering that some people will have been away on Census night.
I have spent ages trying to find my late Uncle, William Havelock Wilson (1894-1974) who isn't at home with the rest of the family at 93 St Helens Road, Swansea on Census night. I've wasted yet more credits looking at William H. Wilson's, - who turn out to be the wrong ones...:-(
I've even looked for him in Manchester, (where his father was supposed to have come from) on the wild hope that he might lead me to some Manchester relatives...but no joy:-(((
Perhaps he's with the PHILLIPS relatives, - in Outer Space, - or where ever!!
Romilly ::) ::) ::)
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Romilly if you find him with my missing Percy Price or Samson Roberts give me a nudge. Think they had a conspiracy going on between them. ;D
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I'm having problems finding my grandparents and great-grandparents in LLanwonno parish on the 1911 census. I know they lived in the same street, so tried the place search and still no luck. The street doesn't appear.
Tried a few of the surrounding streets and they seem to be missing as well. It looks like a whole block of streets in Llanwonno are not traceable using the search function. I've tried wildcard searches and everything.
ridgehill
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Just a polite reminder that this isn't a look-up thread ( on the grounds that we can't do them for copyright reasons).
Can I suggest if you're having difficulties with a particular family and have bought credits you start a new thread with lots of clues and then people might be able to point you in the right direction, as long as you're paying for the images/ transcriptions yourself.
Many thanks!
(And I've lost one family myself: not that I'm looking for sympathy or anything!!)
;D
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Tell me about it - they couldn't trasncribe John Street properly, and combined with the family being transcribed as Edward (should have been Elward), it has proved slightly frustrating!
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Tell me about it - they couldn't trasncribe John Street properly, and combined with the family being transcribed as Edward (should have been Elward), it has proved slightly frustrating!
I'm mystified by the 'place' search facility on the 1911 ::) ::)
Even streets which I know are there, (because I've found relatives living in them in 1911), come up as 'nothing found'. I'm unable to find Brynforgan Terrace or St Helens Road; which is somewhat perplexing...to say the least!!
Romilly ???
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Hi Romilly,
I had the reverse situation, I couldn't find anyone in the person search and yet found them on the street search. A friend contacted me last night to say that the same thing had happened to her :-\
After finding my family I went back to the person search and found them ???
I am also most certain that I used the same details in the person search as I found from the street search and were also known to me anyway.
..I tried every combination during the hour I was looking.
Either something is wrong with the search facility or I am going mad.
Ambers
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Hi Romilly,
Either something is wrong with the search facility or I am going mad.
Ambers
Its not just you Ambers...I think its driving quite a few of us round the bend!!
Romilly ::) ::) ::)
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St Helens (sic) Road comes up. ???
It's probably some mispelling which is preventing Brynforgan Terrace coming up as well, but I haven't worked that one out yet! ;D
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St Helens (sic) Road comes up. ???
It's probably some mispelling which is preventing Brynforgan Terrace coming up as well, but I haven't worked that one out yet! ;D
Hi Bev,
It does indeed, - I've just tried it!
Now what was I doing wrong before? I tried all sorts of variations too... ???
Are they perhaps tweaking it when people complain?
Romilly.
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Hi Romily
Just looked at findmy past for list of streets Swansea on the 1891
census and could not see a Brynforgan Terrace. The nearest sounding is
Brynfynon Road Clase Swansea.
Is this any help
Sylvia
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Hello again
Sorry to have confused you more when I checked again it just says
Brynfynon and when I checked it on the 1911 I put Brynfynon and it came up as Brynffynon
Sylvia
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Hi Bev,
It does indeed, - I've just tried it!
My point was that it is coming up if you don't put the apostrophe in - did you put it in the first time you searched?
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I have just received an e-mail from the 1911 census website saying you can now look at the enumerator's pages so I had a look and found that the enumerator for my family was one of my Ambroses!
I'm VERY EXCITED! ;D
I should get out more. :-[
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Well I think theres something wrong with the search facility. Out of exasperation I searched for ALL Samson Roberts in a certain area, and none came up. Yet I know there were many in that area at that time, surely ALL cant have avoided the census man. (Also tried Sampson).
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Thanks Bevbee for the information much better than
looking at the telly
Sylvia
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Hi Bev & Sylvia,
And thanks for looking for me.
Bev, it seems to be a bit patchy re: enumerator's details...
The ones for my G/grandparents, Evan & Margaret Rees are available, (& it looks as though Brynforgan Terrace might come under Clydach Road), the Enumerator here is Walter REES, - but I think that REES is a pretty common name in South Wales ;D . However, it says that info for St Helens Road isn't yet available...(?)
Bev, St Helens Road is a funny one, because I had tried it with & without apostrophes, & it wasn't there, - but now suddenly it is, (without one though:-)
Down to my last few credits now, - think I'll wait until it goes on Ancestry before I try again with it!!
Romilly.
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Maybe they're putting things right as they go along? ??? If so at least it shows they are listening to people! ;D
It is possible to just put in an area eg. Bonymaen in the Swansea area and then plough through all the results to find the right street. Or just Terrace or Road in the same way.
As for the enumerator's pages they say this in the e-mail I received;
Please note: some 1911 census returns do not have accompanying Enumerator’s Summary-Book pages. There are none for British Navy ships or military establishment returns – the head of the establishment or ship’s captain was effectively the enumerator. And the Enumerator’s Summary Books for some parts of England and Wales have not survived, so will never be available online.
Disappointing for some. ???
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Does anyone know which area of Swansea Brynforgan Terrace would have come under?
I don't think its there anymore, - I have looked, but can't find it. ???
Someone on here suggested it might be near Rock Street??
Romilly.
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I know Rock Terrace and that's in Morriston. I don't know a Rock Street or a Brynforgan Terrace, but another site says it was in Llangyfelach.
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENBRIT/2004-08/1092857509
(it's not you is it??) ;D
That would tie in with your family wouldn't it?
Worth a try. ;)
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I know Rock Terrace and that's in Morriston. I don't know a Rock Street or a Brynforgan Terrace, but another site says it was in Llangyfelach.
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENBRIT/2004-08/1092857509
(it's not you is it??) ;D
That would tie in with your family wouldn't it?
Worth a try. ;)
LOL...no, its not me ;D ;D
Sounds as though someone was trying to find out about one of my G/Grandparent's neighbours...but evidently the site they posted on wasn't as friendly & helpful as this one!!!
The Postal Address for my G/Grandparents on the 1911 is given as this:
(Looks more like a 'Y' than a 'B' to me though...).
Romilly.
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Hi Romilly
I was just about to let you know that I had found Ynysforgan Terrace Clydach on the 1911 census last night but you will have to go into it to see it.. I am going out for the day now but if you have not got any credits left I will have a look for you this evening. Only three entries come up.
Sylvia
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Hi Romilly
I was just about to let you know that I had found Ynysforgan Terrace Clydach on the 1911 census last night but you will have to go into it to see it.. I am going out for the day now but if you have not got any credits left I will have a look for you this evening. Only three entries come up.
Sylvia
Hi Sylvia,
Thats a very kind offer, & Many Thanks for looking for me. :)
I have the 'Original Transcript' page for Evan & Margaret Rees; which doesn't seem to give an exact address. Just, 'Brynforgan Terrace'...I was trying to establish the house number, - but perhaps it didn't have one?
Anyway, I shall wait until the 1911 becomes available on other sites...(hopefully Subscription ones rather than Pay to View).
But Many Thanks again for your kind offer, & Best of Luck with your research.
All Best Wishes, Romilly. :)
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Romilly, I'm confused - that's Clydach Road, Ynysforgan - just up the the road from me here. Is that the word you thought said Brynforgan? ???
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Hi Bev,
I got the 'Brynforgan Terrace' firstly from the 1901 Census entry for Evan & Margaret Rees. And then on the 'Original Transcript' page for them on the 1911, Evan Rees has again written what looks like 'Brynforgan Terrace'...however, on the Enumorator's page it is written as per the copy that I posted above.
Hence my confusion...
Romilly ???
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I am going to lock this topic now.
I had wanted to leave it open for general discussion ... :(
Please post any requests for advice (NOT look-ups) or general comments on a new thread.
Thanks.