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Title: COMPLETED What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Monday 19 January 09 00:48 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help me find out what happened to Ann Pain (parents were John and Mary) - I know she was born in Lamborne in Feb 1818, but can not trace any other information about her.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 19 January 09 00:56 GMT (UK)
Do you have the parent's marriage?:
(IGI extracted)
John Pain = Mary Ann Wait
9 Nov 1817
Lambourn

There are several other children (siblings for Ann) also b Lambourn.

Do you know anything more about Ann? She may have married prior to the 1841 census so unless you find her marriage, you won't know her surname to find her in the censuses.  :-\
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 19 January 09 01:06 GMT (UK)
Looking through FreeBMD I found this:
Marriages Dec 1842
Payne Ann
Hungerford (which covers Lambourn)
vol 6
page 356

to either:
Joseph Harris
Henry Radbourn
Roger Spanswick
or Jason Spanswick

I will see if I can find any of these couples in the censuses to see who paried up with who.

Of course your Ann may not even have married ... or may have died young ...
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 19 January 09 01:17 GMT (UK)
Afraid I can't see an Ann*b Berkshire married to Joseph, Henry, jason or Roger in the 1851 census.  :-\

An Ann married one of them!

I will look at 1861.

Nope - no luck there either. When was the last time you spotted Ann Pain?
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Monday 19 January 09 12:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks, it is a mystery.

I have checked and not found Ann at all - I have managed to trace what happened to all her brothers and sisters (her sister Catherine Payne is my Gt Gt Grandmother), it is just Ann I can't locate.

Interesting that Eliza Paynes son (Anns sister), Robert Dimmer, married into the Spanswick family in Marylebone in 1876, especially when I would have thought it was an unusual name.

I am hoping at some point to get a copy of the marriage for John Pain and Mary Ann Wait so I can taken that further as they were my Gt Gt Gt Grandparents.

Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Galium on Monday 19 January 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
There's a widower Roger Spanswick in 1851:

Class: HO107; Piece: 1833; Folio: 319; Page: 2

He is aged 34 employed as a servant in Wanborough and has a 7 year old Albert Spanswick with him, born in Eastbury, Berkshire.
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Monday 19 January 09 15:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you, is that near Lambourne, Berks?

Is there a burial listed for an Ann Spanswick, that may give a clue.

Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Monday 19 January 09 15:36 GMT (UK)
I can't find a baptism for Albert on the IGI index which is a shame!  Thanks for looking.
Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Galium on Monday 19 January 09 15:54 GMT (UK)
Found this:
http://www.geocities.com/keeto111/spanswick/spanswick.html

Almost at the bottom of the page you will find details of the marriage of Roger Spanswick and Ann Pain both of Eastbury at Lambourn 22 November 1842. No father's names given, Witnesses Charles Smith and Elizabeth Pain.

Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Galium on Monday 19 January 09 16:05 GMT (UK)
Eastbury is in the parish of Lambourn  - so within Hungerford district. Ann might be the Ann Spanswick whose death is registered in 1849 in Hungerford district.
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Monday 19 January 09 16:28 GMT (UK)
Ok that is interesting.
Any way we can find out the date of birth for Ann Spanswick? That would confirm it was the same Ann.
Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 19 January 09 21:54 GMT (UK)
My first thought is that the d/c will show her age, but that will mean a  £7 outlay.  ;)
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Monday 19 January 09 23:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that - the relationship is to distant to justify that expense, especially with the credit crunch just now.

This is the last sibling I was hoping to trace.  Even though I live in Kent, one day I may take a drive to Reading and look up everything, but not for a long time yet.

Thanks for your help on this.

Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Brewmaster on Monday 09 February 09 16:31 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Galium on Monday 19 January 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
There's a widower Roger Spanswick in 1851:

Class: HO107; Piece: 1833; Folio: 319; Page: 2

He is aged 34 employed as a servant in Wanborough and has a 7 year old Albert Spanswick with him, born in Eastbury, Berkshire.

I don't know if this is of any help or even relevant, but I have a copy of the 1901 Census for Great Shefford which lists the two occupants of this house - Wlliam Spanswick, shoemaker aged 61, and his sister Adelaide, house helper aged 69. Both single and born in West Shefford,  the former name of this village which is 4 miles from Lambourn.

Roy.
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Tigsy on Saturday 14 February 09 18:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this, can you find anything further on Roger Spanswick or Albert?

Kind regards
Title: Re: What happened to Ann Payne/Pain?
Post by: Brewmaster on Saturday 14 February 09 19:28 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Tigsy on Saturday 14 February 09 18:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this, can you find anything further on Roger Spanswick or Albert?

Kind regards

I'm afraid not. All I have is the census return mentioned.

Roy.