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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: painterlady on Saturday 17 January 09 14:23 GMT (UK)
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Have just found a family on the 1911 census described as living at 96 Church Hill St, Burton on Trent but the householder has written in 'Winshill' for the postal address. They were initially in Winshill but at some stage moved to B on T, can someone who knows the area tell me which this is please?
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This link shows that Winshill was one of the five townships that made up the Parish of Burton on Trent;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05az/
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Thanks, that was an interesting link, I knew about the breweries as one grandfather worked for one but no idea which. Will see if I can find a town map to see just where the road was
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Church Hill Street is named on the map for Winshill.See;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05b0/
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Hi
I live in Burton on Trent and can confirm that Church Hill Street is in Winshill which is part of Burton upon Trent.
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Thanks all, that is fine, I have now found the street on a map via Google but named only on the large scale version, nice to have confirmation. It's a funny area as it sometimes gets Staffs and sometimes Derby, interesting to see what is in which, all this SHOULD be good for my geography
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Yes we sometimes forget that this as much about Geography as History!
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Winshill before the boundary changes was Derbyshire but is now firmly in Burton on Trent, my OH has ancestors that used to live on West Street and it has caught me out as well!
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I live in Winshill, just round the corner from Church Hill Street! We have the original Deeds to our house, which was built in 1881. Winshill was originally a village in Derbyshire, although it is now a suburb of Burton upon Trent. The Staffordshire/Derbyshire border is currently about half a mile away on Newton Road, so we are only just within the boundaries of Burton upon Trent.
Sadly, these days, Winshill is synonymous with a very large council estate of ill repute, although Church Hill Street and the street where I live are in the original village.
Stapenhill, also now a suburb of Burton, also used to be in Derbyshire!
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I am new here so apologize if I make a mistake.
I too used to live in West street(the old one) Winshill and have found it complicated to trace my ancestors because of Derbyshire/Staffordshire problem. In fact I am still stuck trying to find my maternal grandmothers sister, who died in infancy.
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Painterlady, there's a really great site with maps of Burton on Trent 'through the decades' as it were, here:
www.burton-on-trent.org/1-History/Local%20Maps/burton_upon_trent_maps.htm
Early in researching a branch of my Newtons, I got caught by the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border thing. I couldn't understand why my ancestor's first wife's death was registered in Derbyshire when they were living in Burton. It soon became clear when I did a bit of research on registration boundaries!!
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Winshill has always been in Burton on Trent. It was the counties that were different. e,g Staffordshire and Derbyshire . Hope this makes sense.
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where in west street did you live
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It was the old West Street where i Lived. No3 next door to the Queens Arms.
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ok knew the queens very well i was born and raised in east street
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Winshill has always been in Burton on Trent. It was the counties that were different. e,g Staffordshire and Derbyshire . Hope this makes sense.
Winshill was orignally a village in Derbyshire. I have the deeds to my house which confirm this.
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Just thought I'd mention that Winshill is in Derbyshire Diocese along with Stapenhill - being on the other side of the river (which is the boundary). The rest of Burton is in Lichfield Diocese.
Regards
Derby Girl
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Painterlady, there's a really great site with maps of Burton on Trent 'through the decades' as it were, here:
www.burton-on-trent.org/1-History/Local%20Maps/burton_upon_trent_maps.htm
Early in researching a branch of my Newtons, I got caught by the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border thing. I couldn't understand why my ancestor's first wife's death was registered in Derbyshire when they were living in Burton. It soon became clear when I did a bit of research on registration boundaries!!