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Title: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Frank75 on Tuesday 13 January 09 14:40 GMT (UK)
I am researchin my wife's granfather Albert TYRRELL b c.1881.  He is proving elusive as I was hoping to find out where and when he was born in 1911 Census.  Unfortunately he is not listed but his wife Rose Helena and children are. - 9 Adela House Kensington London.  He does not appear elsewhere on the census.
She was pregnant at the time with his 5th child and they had two more before he enlisted in November 1915 and was stationed in India until 1919.

It is possible that he was in prison during the 1911 Census.  Where can I find prison records or failing this any ideas where he may have been.

Thanks Frank
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jennifer c on Tuesday 13 January 09 22:43 GMT (UK)
Do you have his parents names?

There is a 10 year old Albert Terrell in Camberwell in 1891?

He seems to have married Rose Helena Matthews in Sept qtr 1903 in Kensington. The marriage cert. would give you information if you do not already have it.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: hoping on Thursday 22 January 09 13:13 GMT (UK)
Hello,
My name is Maureen,and guess what_your Albert Terrell is also MY GRANDFATHER!!! can we swap information? I am the daughter of George,the last one rose had with Albert.Ilive in the north of England,where are you?
          love maureen xx
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jorose on Thursday 22 January 09 13:40 GMT (UK)
Frank & Maureen, do either of you know Albert's occupation?  He could have been travelling for work.
I know people have found relatives in prison in 1911, so if he was there he should still show up.
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: hoping on Thursday 22 January 09 13:49 GMT (UK)
hello, Yes, he was a gas purifer, as was his father William
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Frank75 on Monday 26 January 09 08:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone.  I have been away for a few days and haven't looked at my thread.  Maureen I have sent you a personal message.  Jennifer C you have made me feel pathetic.  I never thought to use a different spelling for Tyrrell because it's unusual.  I have done it for lots of other relatives and it is good sense so Ta V much.

Frank
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Neesargon on Thursday 24 March 16 23:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Frank
Did you solve the mystery of Albert Terrell?
My grandfather, William Terrell, had a brother, Albert, who was born in Bermondsey in 1881.
There were at least eight children and their parents were George and Harriet.
George had been born in Cerne Abbas, Dorset  in about 1840.
I have more information and would be very happy to share it.
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 25 March 16 16:24 GMT (UK)
According to baptism the Albert of George and Harriet , George was a Tanner.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 25 March 16 16:28 GMT (UK)
This. Albert is with his married sister Emma Castle nee Terrell in 1901 census.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 25 March 16 16:38 GMT (UK)
Removed as incorrect information.
Jennifer
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Neesargon on Friday 25 March 16 19:29 GMT (UK)
But the Albert Terrell who is living with his sister, Emma Castle, in the 1901 census  (and who happens to be my grandfather's brother) is a printer - not a purifier.   I suppose he could have changed jobs.
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 25 March 16 20:31 GMT (UK)
Henry William Castle married Emma Terrell 1898 - marriage cert shows her father as George Terrell occ ?? farmer/joiner??

A Charles William Terrell was a witness

On the 1903 marriage cert for Albert & Rose - his father was William Terrell - occ gas purifier
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Neesargon on Friday 25 March 16 21:51 GMT (UK)
In that case, the Albert Terrell who is Emma Castle's brother is defintely not the same Albert who's father was William Terrell, a gas purifier.  They might be related though.
George Terrell, born 1840 at Cerne Abbas was a tanner, sometimes described as a skin dresser.
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 25 March 16 22:09 GMT (UK)
Have removed this information as not correct.
Jennifer
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Neesargon on Saturday 26 March 16 10:46 GMT (UK)
Hmmmm. The mystery deepens.  MY George's parents were Thomas (born 1801 Cerne Abbas) and Mary, nee Brownsey.
Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 26 March 16 13:12 GMT (UK)
I think what has happened is two posts have joined but not giving the correct information.

Albert - parents George (Tanner) and Harriet was bapt 30/3/1881 St James Bermondsey. Albert was a printer. Possible marriage Mary Hibbert. This Albert is the one living with his sister Emma Castle in 1901.

Albert - parents William (Gas worker) & Elizabeth bapt 7/5/1882 St John the Evangelist Kensal Green married Rose Helena Matthews address on army records Kensal Green.

So George the Tanner is correct for parents Thomas & Mary Brownsey.

Jennifer



Title: Re: Albert TYRRELL - Where is he?
Post by: Neesargon on Saturday 26 March 16 15:17 GMT (UK)
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