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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: lostallinterest on Tuesday 13 January 09 14:21 GMT (UK)
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wondered if anyone has access to the book listing DMP personnel ?
Salmon (maybe Timothy) Died 19 June 1894 aged 38 is he listed at all ?
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Hello Ralphtheclaret.
I have a copy of the book in question, The Dublin Metropolitan Police by Jim Herlihy.
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interesting thanks...its something I spotted whilst googling - could be a total red herring, I'm searching for my Gt Grandfathers dad who was deceased by the 1911 census...if all else fails hopefully he hadn't died before 1901.
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ralphtheclaret
I have two Salmons listed for DMP:
Edward Salmon_4726_born 1834_Edgeworthstown, Co. Longford
Thomas Salmon_11473_born 1899_Kilcolman, C Mayo.
Regards
John G.
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any next of kin given for the Edgeworthstown Salmon ?
thanks Ralph
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Hello,
I'm looking for info on my g.g.g. grandfather, William Wallace.
He was born c1834 Ireland & worked in DMP before relocating to Chester around 1866. He is listed on the UK census as a detective inspector.
His son Samuel also joined the police force in Chester.
He married Fanny White in 1863 in Crumlin, Dublin. They appear to already have 2 children at this stage. William Wallace died in 1881 in England.
My research into the Irish side of the family starts here so any snippits of information would be gratefully received.
Failing this I will write to Garda Archives & see what crops up.
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Hello lindseyanne,
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Thanks for all your help. :)
I've just found out some other info:
Sgt 196 William Wallace Born circa 1836 Ireland, joined Chester City Police 9th June 1865
Does this correlate with your findings?
Many thanks again for your assitance.
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Hi,
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I will write to Garda today & see what transpires!
Thanks again
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Hello
Just seen your message. William was my great grandfather and Samuel was my grandfather. I am looking for more information on these ancestors. Have you made any further progess? Samuel and Ann Eliza (both born in Ireland) had 1 further sibling born in Ireland (Fanny Maria) and 6 more born in Chester.
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Hi wallmacc,
Yes, I have quite a bit of info on William Wallace & some on Samuel too...feel free to pm me & I can get back to you with some info - too much to type here! :o
I'll wait to hear from you.
:)
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New users usually need to make 3 posts before they can use PM (personal message) system.
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ok, maybe I can pm wallmac...?
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New users usually need to make 3 posts before they can use PM (personal message) system.
- includes sending and receiving
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Hi lindseyanne,
I'm new to this game so the system will not let me pm and tips say don't publish e-mail address in public. Want to exchange information on the Wallace's but don't know how to establish suitable communications. Can you help please?
Thanks :)
wallmacc
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Hi wallmacc,
I think you only need to write one more post to be able to access the personal message service (which only we will see).
Perhaps you could just reply to this post & then you will be able to access the PM service.
If you get stuck just post/reply & I will be happy to help.
I've already sent you a private message, so it should pop up after you've posted. :)
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Hi i am looking for information on my great grandad who was in the dublin metropolitan police. his name was william o brien born in waterford but lived in dublin. he was born in 1878
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Hello Fiona,
There is only two O'Brien's listed in the book.
Eugene born 1900, Co Donegal
William born 1812, Co Cork
You can write to the Garda archives, who's address is on page 1 of this thread.
Good Luck
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ok thanks for your help!
I forgot to say he was a constable if thats any help?
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Can I butt in here?
Looking for info. on Edward Dowzard, a police superintendant in 1911 census age 55.
Any details welcome!
Kooky
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some Thom's 1914 details from the Law Directory/Customs section :
Dublin Port & Docks Board, Office - Westmoreland-street.
(members of the board, shipping members, clerks & officials....etc)
housekeeper, Edward Dowzard.
Custom House Docks & Warehouses Dept.
(manager, chief clerk, cashier etc..)
Police superintendent : E. Dowzard
If it's the Edward you are looking for it looks like he was attached to Customs & Excise and would seem to be the same Edward mentioned in the other posting with a residence at Newbridge Ave - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0720/
Shane
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There are two Edward Dowzards in the 1911 census! The house keeper etc. is at 19, Westmoreland St., with his wife and 2 daughters.
The police superintendant is at Ashdale road.
I am confused now!
First I can never find a Dowzard, now I have 2!
I am going to have to invest in some certs. to sort them out!
Kooky
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ok thanks for your help!
I forgot to say he was a constable if thats any help?
There as another O'Brien that is listed in DMP by the name of Mathew born Meath 1862 died in Dublin in 1918.I was hoping he was my GGrandfather who I have been trying to trace for years as my GGrandfather was shown as a constable on his daughters (Annie) marriage certificate in 1910 but from infomation from his Grandson it would appear to different Matthew. although there are no other Matthews listed that I know of. Any advice welcomed
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Hi,
Hope youcan help...
Is there a John Lewis, joined about 1858, ex-constable in the lists?
Thanks
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Have now received the copies of marriage entries for both Edward Dowzards.
The younger one married Mary Anne O'Grady 10th April 1888 at the parish church of St. Catherines. His father was also Edward Dowzard, my gt gt gr father. So my gt gr mother Susan Boshell nee Dowzard was his sister! :o He was also living at 28, Cork St., where his parents lived.
The older Edward Dowzard married Mary Anne Ferguson 7th June 1879 at St James. His father was George, a farmer.
More to think about!
Kooky
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hi Kooky,
had a quick look at he address you mentioned.. in case it provides some clues..
Thom's directory 1894 - Cork Street
26 and 27 Tenements,
28 Mrs Dowzard
28 William Hatch, dairy,
no. 28 is skipped over in 1884 directory - just the tenements at 26/27 and William Hatch at number 28 1/2
in 1914 there's a Miss Dowzard at the same address
Shane
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Yes thank you Shane.
The Mrs Dowzard in 1894 is my gt gt gr mother Anne.
The miss Dowzard in 1914 is her daughter.
Kooky
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Miss Dowzard is still there in 1922, but it's tenements in 1937
eadaoin
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Kooky
For what it is worth to you Miss Dowzard is shown as the occupier in Thoms 1934.
Regards Quaxer
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Thank you both!
Elizabeth Dowzard, known as Lizzie died in 1931.
I therefore am puzzled as to the name of the Miss Dowzard in 1934!
Both Edwards had daughters.
Kooky
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Thank you both!
Elizabeth Dowzard, known as Lizzie died in 1931.
I therefore am puzzled as to the name of the Miss Dowzard in 1934!
Both Edwards had daughters.
Kooky
Some sections of Thom's can be a little bit out of date, so it's possible that they did not update the listings correctly for that street....or the property could still have been in her name, pending probate etc...
Shane
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While Thoms Directory is all we have in some situations this shows the limitations of the Directory as they never had any official status to collect information but merely relied upon the fact that it might suit a named person to have a correct entry.
Regards Quaxer
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Edward Dowzard, the one who worked at the port & docks board, had a total of seven daughters in two marriages, from 1887 to 1904.
So I guess it could be one of these.