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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: wildgoose on Tuesday 13 January 09 07:28 GMT (UK)
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Below was attached to a 1868 Marriage cert. Does anyone know were I could find more details ???
1898, Register of Corrected Entries, Vol II, Page 44, for the Parish of Auchterderran, in the County of Fife, recs.
Register of Marriages for the Parish of Auchterderran, in the County of Fife, for the year 1868, Entry No.23.
5th Mar 1898 - Decree of Divorce was pronounced by Lord STORMOUTH DARLING, Ordinary, in an action at the instance of Robert ERSKINE, Miner, 15 Hall Street, Lochgelly, against Mrs Elizabeth MORRIS or ERSKINE his wife residing at 214 St Clair Street, Sinclairtown, Kirkcaldy
The above insertion is made under the direction of the Registrar General in terms of the 5th Section of the Act 18 Vict c 29
Robert SMALL, Assist. Registrar
15th March 1898
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The National Archives of Scotland may hold further records.
As you have the names and the years it is probably well worth contacting the NAS.
See:
http://www.nas.gov.uk/guides/divorce.asp
which is the NAS Guide to Divorce Records.
Good luck,
JAP
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Having gone to the trouble of finding a further report relating this request, I am rather surprised to see it removed. Had the person who objected contacted me, I would have happily removed the information and apologised for any offence caused. I am getting used to the trend in genealogy for people not showing any gratitude for information found for them, so will just not bother in future. :(
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Hi Wildgoose
I found practically the same attachment to a 1904 marriage cert that was corrected in 1920, the cert was from Ayrshire. After quite a bit of hunting i managed to find a reference to it in the NAS catalogue, wondering if it is worthwhile going through to edinburgh to view the item. Have you had any luck? did you find yours?
Kym
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Having gone to the trouble of finding a further report relating this request, I am rather surprised to see it removed. Had the person who objected contacted me, I would have happily removed the information and apologised for any offence caused. I am getting used to the trend in genealogy for people not showing any gratitude for information found for them, so will just not bother in future. :(
Hi NellW
I had a similar thing some time back with another site that I had my whole tree on and someone there 'objected' that I hadn't asked their permission to include them ... and so I deleted the whole lot and thought "stuff you" for your ingratitude! Maybe they had a 'dark side'!
'Share and share alike' comes to mind (an expression found in many Last Will and & Testament transcriptions!) where genealogy is concerned.
It's not as if we're gathering the details with any ulterior motive in mind :o
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Hi Chiad
Thanks for your support. In this case there were two reports, a very inocuous one, and one which gave details of the reason for the divorce. I'm not insensitive to the fact that some people don't like to find things out about their relatives, but I made the judgement that, since the poster had asked how to find out more, they would want the information. The second report was removed without a word to me so I edited my first post to remove that too. If I had been alerted to their objection, I would have removed in a trice. Surely going to rootschat should be the second option? No doubt both reports have kept for their research without a word of gratitude ....
Haven't bothered with rootschat since, and won't be bothering in future.
Helen
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???
And also puzzling is that Robert & Elizabeth who were at 15 Hall St in the 1891 census, seem to be together (Elizabeth still as Robert's wife, and with three of their children still living at home) in the 1901 census (different address) ...
JAP
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I was the person who posted the details below. Can some please tell me what all the fuss was about ??? You can send me a PM if you like ???
1898, Register of Corrected Entries, Vol II, Page 44, for the Parish of Auchterderran, in the County of Fife, recs.
Register of Marriages for the Parish of Auchterderran, in the County of Fife, for the year 1868, Entry No.23.
5th Mar 1898 - Decree of Divorce was pronounced by Lord STORMOUTH DARLING, Ordinary, in an action at the instance of Robert ERSKINE, Miner, 15 Hall Street, Lochgelly, against Mrs Elizabeth MORRIS or ERSKINE his wife residing at 214 St Clair Street, Sinclairtown, Kirkcaldy
The above insertion is made under the direction of the Registrar General in terms of the 5th Section of the Act 18 Vict c 29
Robert SMALL, Assist. Registrar
15th March 1898
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Keep them at it Wildgoose!
As a point of correction for you the name STOURMOUTH DARLING should read STORMONTH DARLING.
I've a contact up in the Kirriemuir area for estate access for hill-walking with the name and they go back a long, long way ... legal profession, landed gentry and the likes!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Many thanks ;D I will correct my data. My original enquiry wasn't driven by a desire to know why they divorced :o but because of the surprise that in 1898 a miner could afford a divorce :o :o
I didn't get a response to my original posting so I assumed, like so many of my postings, that no interest had been shown.
I still haven't found out anymore information than was in the original posting :'(
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Hi wildgoose,
I'm getting a tad puzzled here. Hope you don't mind if I try to clarify my understanding. ;D
Your original post referred to an RCE annotation (1898) to an 1868 marriage. The RCE related to an 1898 divorce.
You quoted the RCE and posed a very general query - not a query about how a miner could afford a divorce but (emphasis added).
... Does anyone know were I could find more details ...
You now say (emphasis added):
... I didn't get a response to my original posting so I assumed, like so many of my postings, that no interest had been shown. ...
But ....... ??? ???
Your original post was timed at 13 Jan 09, 07:28.
On that very same day, 13 Jan 09, at 07:46 I responded (pretty speedy response time, eh!) suggesting that it would be worth contacting the National Archives of Scotland to see if they held any records - and I gave a link to the NAS Guide to Divorce Records.
And it seems that, on that very same day, NellW posted providing "more details" in the form of two reports - but that apparently her post was removed (she says this in her post timed at 13 Jan 09, 19:48) ...
There were further responses on 10 & 11 March. When these came up in my 'new replies' list, I had sufficient "interest" to check out the 1901 census and found a record which was a little confusing. So I posted a further response mentioning that the parties to the divorce seemed to be living together in 1901 ...
You say:
... I still haven't found out anymore information than was in the original posting :'(
I have no idea why the "more details" posted by NellW were removed (and I have no interest in them) but, if you would like to have more information, it would seem to be a good idea to PM NellW and ask whether she could PM the information she found to you.
Best of luck with your research.
Kind regards,
JAP
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Many thanks for clarifying what happened ;D I was expecting a general "point you in the right direction" sort of reply and was very surprised to find that someone had indeed come across more information.