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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Emjaybee on Thursday 08 January 09 08:16 GMT (UK)
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Anyone know of Catherine Tully who emigrated to Western Australia in the 1850's, she may have married Joseph Watkins in York, W.A.
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I have been researching the single Irish girls who came to Western Australia in 1853 on the "Palestine" (as my great, great grandmother was on that ship) and there were two Tully girls on that ship, Bridget and Catherine. Both girls married in Western Australia and had children. Bridget married Samuel Willis in York in 1856 (I haven't yet, but could look up whether they had children if you like). SHe died in 1907.
Catherine married Joseph Watkins in York and I have found records of three daughters, MaryAnn, Harriet and Ellen, but there may be more children.
I have found that many of the girls on the "Palestine" were from Galway. Were the Tully sisters from Galway? If so, do you have any further information of where they came from and how they came to eimgrate to Australia (ie from a workhouse or other institution)?
Please let me know if you are additional information and I will see if I can access it for you.
Many thanks,
Anne
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Hello,
Joseph Watkins was my many times great Grandfather. he was transported to W.A. for stealing sheep in Uk in 1851. he left behind a wife and daughter. Harriet his wife later married my Gt Gt Grandfather Thomas Scrivens. We don't know if Joseph and Harriet were divorced but she remarried twice in fact.
I was told by a reli in Aus that Catherine Tully left Ireland after the famine. Catherine is my interest, as we are not sure if he ever married her. He later declared himself as a bachelor when he married again!
Mike
Thanks for your interest
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Hi Mike, sounds like Joseph was quite the ladies man!
Do you know where in Galway Catherine Tully came from?
Many thanks,
Anne
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Sorry no. I only got the info second hand -just Galway
Mike
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Hi Mike
Cannot find a marriage for Catherine Tully but there are three births
Mary Anne 1854
Harriet 1856
Ellen 1862 Reg under Watkinson(M-Tally)
Father - Joseph Watkins
Mother - Catherine Tully
Mary and Harriet married as Watkins Ellen married as a Tully
Have not been able to find a death for Catherine
Joseph married in 1876 to Charlotte Ann Little and they don't seem to have had any children in W.A
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Hi All
Is it possible Catherine TULLY made a very late in life marriage? At say, sixty something??
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Sue
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MMmm...
Don't quite know what to make of this death ..
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Ppossibly a mistranscribed age.
Should be more like a 60
Sue
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Hi Sue
I did have a look at that marriage but ruled it out as a different Catherine because of the age.This is the death of her husband so i don't think that the age is wrong.She just seems to disappear into thin air.
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Regards Sue
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Hi Sue,
Yes I do see that it looks pretty doubtful.
However,If agribble's (ANNE Reply #1) Catherine Tully is yours, it is possible that agribble knows the mother & father of Bridget(the sister of Catherine whom she mentions).
It may be interesting/helpful to see if it is Mary ROXAN.
You may like to contact her as she has kindly offered to share what information she has.
Sue
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Hi Sue and Sue,
Unfortunately I have very little information about the Tully girls. I am researching a group of girls (to which they belonged) that came to Western Australia in 1853 on the "Palestine" to try and estbalish where they came from (which by the way is looking like Galway). I have no information about their parents, although next time I am at the library I will look their names up in the Dictionary of Western Australians which is where I have been able to track down quite a lot of info about other girls on the ship. I do know they were both married in York (a lot of the "Palestine" girls travelled to Toodyay and York) but have very little other facts to go on.
I will keep you posted if I find anything else!
Anne
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I have discovered more information about Catherine Tully who arrived in Western Australia. I note that a lot of the previous posts are quite old, but if anyone out there is still interested please let me know and I will share this information.
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A Catherine Tully could have been married to Joseph Watkns my 3x great granddad.
I would be glad of any info you now have. Thanks.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Catherine Tully (b. 1830) came to Western Australia on the "Palestine" with 30 other single young women (orphans of the famine). We have now discovered that these women came from the Mountbellew workhouse in Co Galway who would have sponsored their passage to WA. I have seen her name recorded as both "Tully" and "Fully". There was also a Biddy Tully/Fully (b 1831) on the same ship to WA. Catherine Tully was from Castleblakeney in Galway and was actually a subsititute for another girl who fell sick and therefore couldn't sail to WA. I have little information on what happened to Catherine in WA, except that she was partner to Joseph Watkins (not sure whether they ever married) in York. Biddy Tully marries Samuel Willis in York in 1856 and she dies in 1907. My g, g, grandmother was on the same ship as Catherine Tully and she was also one of the three replacements chosen for a sick girls.
I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Anne
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Ann,
That is so exciting.We new she lived with our Joseph, and like you we don't think they ever married.
I am in contact with a distant relative in W,A, another Gt. Gt. Gt. granddaughter of Joe.She will be delighted witht this information.
Thank you for sharing.
Mike
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Glad you found this useful, Mike. Please ask your relative in WA to contact me as I have documentation and we are gathering information on the girls who sailed on the Palestine to WA and sharing this information with the Castleblakeney Heritage Centre in Galway.
Anne
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This is my first time posting on rootschat. I see that these posts are old but hope some of the respondents are still monitoring. I am related to Samuel Willis who married Biddy or Bridget Tully in York WA. I find conflicting information on when they were married and do not find any children for them. Do you have any further information on any children for Bridget and Samuel or on Bridget's and Catherine's family? I found a family that looks like it could be there's in Galway with father John and mother Bridget.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
Pam
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Hello, we researched Catherine only as she married or lived with our 3x gt granddad Joseph Watkins.
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Hi, I realise this is an old chat but hoping someone comes back to me.
I am a direct descendant of Catherine. We do know she came with her sister from Galway, Mountebellow workhouse on the Palestine(brideship) to Fremantle. Bridget did marry Samuel Willis in York, they did not have any children. Catherine did not married however had four girls with Joseph Watkins Harriet, Mary Ann, Ellen/Hellen and Margaret. Ellen being my family line marrying Richard Boyle.
We have no records of Catherine's death and she seems to have disappeared. I would love any insight as to what has happened to her. Joseph did marry again.
Any info would be very much appreciated.
Tanya
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Tanya,
I am related to Samuel Willis who married Bridget. I just did a quick google search and see that bradyfamilytree.org has a death date for Catherine Galway. You might want to have a look and try to contact them.
Any information you have about Samuel and Bridget or Bridget's parents I would sincerely appreciate.
Regards,
Pam
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Hi Pam, we have no info re Bridget and Catherines parents. The girls were in the workhouse in Galway and then shipped to Australia. Someone else has mentioned Castleblakeny as a possible connection, so maybe thats where they were from before going to the workhouse. I'm not sure.
I will have a look at the brady tree as I am aware of it as I have looked at it in the past trying to get Catherine's details.
Cheers
Tanya
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw7lylU_A7o&t=9s
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I found this video very interesting!
Joseph being my 4x grandfather.
By chance can I have photocopies of the bith and marriage certs. Being in Western Australia I'm not sure how to access copies.
Tanya
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Are you aware of the Melvin family in Perth? Barbara is a 4x grandchild as I am. You can stop the video and take a screen grab.
Mike
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Hi Tanya, Are you Tanya from Katanning? We do not have any new info for Cath Tully, no death dates, no mothers name, some people seem to be grasping at any name that may match, the DNA test I did matched me up with the Tully family in Massachusetts USA, they went there in the late 1890's, their family goes back to Rushestown Galway and that is where its at the moment and that is probably where our Tullys came from and so one of their relatives was probably Caths & Bridgets. Have you matched with this family? I have not had any more connections other than this Tully family in the US. Maybe something will come up if more people take a DNA test.
best wishes . Barbara
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Thanks Mike, I will try thr screen shots and see how I go.
Yes Barbara I'm from Narrogin. I am going to get together with Rodney during the school holidays in April. The particular certificates I was chasing from the video Mike has loaded are Joseph's birth and marriage to Harriet, this will be from Ireland I'm guessing not WA. No Barbara I havnt been connected with anyone from this family. A Martin from the mountbellow project has my dna ged number but has not yet matched me with anyone.
Yes it seems Catherine has disappeared after parting from Joseph but all the girls lived long lives.
Thanks all
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Hi Tanya, I thought I had your email address but must have lost it, Joseph Watkins was not born in Ireland, he was born 1822 Colwall Green, Herefordshire, England his parents are William & Sarah (do not know which Sarah as there was a lot of Sarahs around at the time), his marriage to Harriet Wingate was listed as Harriet Winwood, (Winwood also being a name in the area and it appears the wrong name was written down). Joseph was listed as a widower, we have not established who his first wife is, Harriet was born 1828 Colwall, mother is Margaret & father is Richard. Marriage date for J & H is 20 Dec 1849 in the parish of St James the Great Colwall Herefordshire UK, we have been to the church. Send me your email via messenger if you want copies of anything I have. Barbara