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Title: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: DelBoy on Thursday 08 January 09 04:43 GMT (UK)
Hello Diana

Hopefully you will see this tonight, We have no records at work for or a "Cornelius Coffey "  however there are records of a "Coffey" family. I did some looking online when I came home. Do you think this may be youre family?

Obituary  -  COFFEY  -  164

Rakaia  has lost one of its oldest residents   --- Mr Patrick Coffey ----    born Killarney,  Ireland  86 years ago.    He came out in ship Waitangi in 1876   ---  bootmaker,  1st cousin of Bishop of Kerry -----  He leaves 2 daughters,  5 sons,   27 grandchildren  and 6 great grandchildren.     2 sons  Privates Cornelius Coffey  and James Peter Coffey  are serving ---  in France.


Source: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1918.January.Christchurch.PRESS.Snippets.html

I also urge to to follow through and check out 'papers past', spotted the info' below , so there is bound to be a "hit" for you there.

DAILY SOUTHERN CROSS DEATH ENTRIES 1872
07 June 1872 - From Dunedin - COFFEY, one of the constables who struck work, has died suddenly. Page 3

Further entires. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/euterpe1.htm


Cheers Del
(  ;) will phone you tomorrow from work with our "Coffey" names, etc)
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Thursday 08 January 09 04:54 GMT (UK)
Cornelius Coffey

born County Kerry, died 1917, buried Kawakawa


is one of ours .....

sound likely ?
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: DelBoy on Thursday 08 January 09 05:11 GMT (UK)
Checked out my elec' roll etc

1893 NZ Elec' Roll

Cornelius   COFFEY, Hukerenui,Bay of Islands, Gumdigger # 659

   
Name Cornelius COFFEY, Epsom Costley Home, Manukau # 605


Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 08 January 09 05:21 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have a William Cornelius Coffey born 24 December 1894 in Gleniti, died 24 July 1965, sitting in my tree. 

No connection to me ... but married into a well known local family in the Papakura area, which connects to my tree.

Does he fit into your tree?

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Thursday 08 January 09 05:57 GMT (UK)
Lol,

Close,  I have 4th Dec 1893, Towai         d  25th July 1965


m   Mona COSSEY  .....


  :)
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 08 January 09 06:24 GMT (UK)
The information was given to me by someone who did a lot of work on the Cossey Clan,  but admits that dates may not be exact.   

Mona Winifred Cossey.    Three of the Cosseys  is related to my tree.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Pelorus on Sunday 11 January 09 21:31 GMT (UK)
Mk2_Zephyr

I am a relative of Cornelius Coffey, died 20 December 1917 in Kawakawa. Do you have his date of birth and any info on when he came to NZ (from which port, ship, departure and arrival dates.
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 11 January 09 21:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Pelorus,

Welcome to Rootschat.     We are a friendly bunch of people on here ....and you will find that it is addictive.

Best of luck in your search.

Cheers
KHP :D
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Pelorus on Sunday 11 January 09 21:58 GMT (UK)
Kiwihalfpint

On further investigation William could well be a great uncle of mine. My grandmother Mary (and her sister Ellen) did have a brother William Cornelius (full personal details of which are unknown to me) who would fit the correct time frame as Mary (older sister to William) died 1969 in Hamilton and buried at Waiuku Cemetry. There was also an older brother, Michael James Coffey.

Do you have any other information on William which you think would be useful to me?

I'm sure William is a correct link to my family and I have quite a lot of family information if any of your relatives want any on the Coffey and Bryers family tree.
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Sunday 11 January 09 22:22 GMT (UK)

Yeah, BRYERS is a family line, hence the COFFEYs


Patrick, Michael James, Mary, William and Ellen 

sound right ?

What other info do you have ? 

  :)
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 11 January 09 23:49 GMT (UK)
Kiwihalfpint

Do you have any other information on William which you think would be useful to me?


The only other information I have on William is his death place, which is One Tree Point, Northland, and his marriage date of 2 April 1930, Kawakawa, Bay of Islands.  No Children listed ...... don't know if there were any ..... but I haven't been given any.

I don't need any information on William, as he isn't my main link, but his wife - Mona, her fathers 3 siblings married into my family.

This also happens to be my friends clan as well .... will ask what she has.

Cheers
KHP :D
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 12 January 09 00:42 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Just been going over my  info for William Cornelius Coffey, my source got it from the Probate Index:

Agency BBNY
Series 10440
Box 42
Record 172/1965

Filed on 30 July 1965 in Whangarei.   At time of death he was a Retired Farmer.

In 1917 he was living in Maromaku as a Labourer, and had the Military call up.   NZ Gazette 1917 page 546.  He was listed as a First Reservist.

Might pay to get the death notice to see what that says.

As he was born in South Canterbury wonder if it is worthwhile getting in touch with the NZSG Branch for more information i.e. school records etc or putting up another post asking for someone to do a look up for you.



Cheers
KHP :)
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 12 January 09 01:18 GMT (UK)
Hi,

If you have a look at this link below and just type in the name Coffey .... you will find that there are 28 of them there.

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/cenotaph/locations.aspx


Happy browsing.

Cheers
KHP :)
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Monday 12 January 09 01:36 GMT (UK)
Ok, seems to be two different families

Cornelius COFFEY  b County Kerry          d   20th Dec 1917   buried Kawakawa

Cornelius COFFEY  m Katherine BRYERS   1885

had 7 kids,
Twins  .. stillborn
Patrick .. who died young
Michael James  ....  died WW1         m  PARAONE-KAWITI
Mary
William Cornelius
Ellen 

none born in South Island ,
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 12 January 09 01:40 GMT (UK)
So which family does the William Cornelius Coffey/Cossey belong to?

I was given Gleniti South Canterbury for his birth?

Confusing ???
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Monday 12 January 09 02:06 GMT (UK)
I got Towai

for W C COFFEY who  married  Mona COSSEY


guess have to toddle off and check the bdms, I'm in the middle of transfering files to the master, so wasn't going to check up all these for a few weeks,  ::)


the Cornelius COFFEY on the WW1 file is not William Cornelius COFFEY who married COSSEY.
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 12 January 09 02:41 GMT (UK)
Poor you :(   

Mind you lots of dates and info that was given to me didn't match up with mine .... mine were verified with certificates over the last 30 years.

Think I might pay a visit to Papakura and have a gander at the indexes.






Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Pelorus on Monday 12 January 09 03:19 GMT (UK)
Hi to you both - kiwihalfpint and mk2_zephyr

Yes this is one and the same family!!! Thank you for your persistance and help.

mk2_zephyr - your family 'tree' is what I have. Mary and William are brother and sister - Mary is my grandmother! Who are you related to - maybe Ellen?

kiwihalfpint - the birthdate you gave for William is in fact (I think) Ellen's birthdate - I will keep plugging at this and see what I come up with from other avenues. William's birthdate is the only one of this part of the family I don't have.

Father - Cornelius Charles Coffey, son of Michael and Mary (nee Mangan) Coffey is the relative I want to follow through with as I have many discrepancies with his legal documents as to his actual birthdate (his marriage certificate, entries on his daughters' birth certificates, his will and his death certificate all give a different year).

I am also interested in finding out what ship he arrived on - possibility leaving from from Liverpool.

I will keep delving and will post what I fond to you both.

Thanks again

Pelorus
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 12 January 09 03:54 GMT (UK)
Phew!!! I was just about to bury my head in the sand ;D

Glad I was a bit of a help :)

Cheers
KHP :)



Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Diana
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Monday 12 January 09 04:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Pelorus,

Its your grt grandmother who is related Katherine BRYERS,  :)


yep, keep digging everything will come up sooner or later, its another branch I have been slack on recently,  :-\

I will check the BDMs for all this branch very soon ....
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: Pelorus on Monday 12 January 09 18:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Mk2_Zephyr

Katherine Bryers was my great grandmother hence Alf and Mary Baker my grandparents.

Where do you fit in the family?

If you come up with any other info on Cornelius Charles Coffey I would be most grateful.

The link with Kiwihalfpint's extended family is interesting - my research also states that William Cornelius Coffey was married to Mary Cossey and they had three daughters.

Thanks for your input

Pelorus   
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: twinklestar21 on Tuesday 14 March 17 23:22 GMT (UK)
Hi i have been doing my family tree for many years i dont know how connected i cornelius charles coffey is connected to our line yet but we do have alot similar lines i do have a tree with cornelius Charles coffey who married Katherine or catherine nee Bryers..born 31 May 1866 Herbs Point, Washington County, Utah, United States death was 16 Mar 1924 Auckland NZ...We have alot missing tree branches in the coffey side from ireland..My gr grt grandfather was Andrew Coffey he had alot siblings and and his siblings had alot of children im trying to connect cornelius or his father Michael Coffey..I have Cornelius Charles Coffey born 1857 kerry Ireland died 18 May 1918 Auckland New Zealand the children that him and Katherine (catherine) had were James Michael Coffey 20 Jul 1887 wellington NZ died 28 Aug 1918 Bapaume, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France he was a war hero..his siblings he married Nori Hokimate Kawiti Coffey (Paraone) went by kawiti (meaning Coffey) her nee name Paroane..Cornelius other children were john,Mary Patrick,William,Ellen,Baby Coffey..William Cornelius Coffey  1891 -1965 birth Northland  married Mona Winifred Cossey birth 1910 some photos i have and lots more info.....contact me im trying to connect our coffey lines back to ireland as well..
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: twinklestar21 on Tuesday 14 March 17 23:38 GMT (UK)
Cornelius Charles Coffey one of his sons James Michael Coffey and wife Nori  Paroane had 4 children what I have  son william Coffey (half caste Maori) born 29 Mar 1916 Kawakawa Bay Of Islands NZ Death 16 May 2006 Auckland NZ he married Kathleen (nee Williams) Coffey..Good looking guy..they had 8 children..one died young baby 2 yrs old Tamati Coffey..Im trying to connect the branches as alot of the surnames now are joining up with the tree branches on alot sides..of the whanau
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: DavidCoffeyNZ on Sunday 13 February 22 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone! My name is David Coffey, Michael James Coffey is my Great Grandfather,
I have also traced the Bryers family back as far as I could, I ended up at John Bryers, Birth: 1785, London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom, If you need more information get in touch.

Here is a link to find what ship everyone arrived on and more, https://www.houseofnames.com/coffey-family-crest

*One thing I am having a really hard time trying to find is anything on Charles Coffey (Father of Cornelius Charles Coffey / Michael James Coffey's Grandfather) If anyone has any information on him please let me know asap be it Parents, Birth, Death, Middle name, etc*

Stoked I came across this thread! Seems like I'm not the only one trying to piece everything together, As the youngest born in my family I decided to take up the role of historian and can probably help explain most of the connections between us all you have previously talked about,

When Cornelius Charles Coffey was born about 1857, in County Kerry, Ireland, his father, Charles Coffey, was 27 and his mother, Mary Mangen, was 27. He married Katherine Bryers in 1885, in New Zealand. They were the parents of at least 5 sons and 2 daughters. (Patrick Coffey 1886–1887, Michael James Coffey 1887–1918, Mary Coffey 1888–1960, William Cornelius Coffey 1891–1965, Ellen Coffey 1894–1972, It also looks like they had 2 other babies but they must have died very young age) His occupation is listed as a farmer in Maromaku, New Zealand. He died on 18 May 1918, in Kawakawa, New Zealand, at the age of 61, and was buried in Auckland, New Zealand?.

When Michael James Coffey was born on 20 July 1887, in Wellington, New Zealand, his father, Cornelius Charles Coffey, was 30 and his mother, Katherine Bryers, was 21. He married Nori Hokimate Kawiti Paraone about 1914, in Auckland, New Zealand. They were the parents of at least 2 sons and 2 daughters. (Mereana Te Rope ( Toro Matiu) 1911–1913, Waina Te Hana ( Toro Matiu)
1912–1916, Te Riri Coffey 1914–1915, William Coffey 1916–2006),
In 1916, at the age of 29, his occupation is listed as railways, also labourer in Kaikohe, Northland, New Zealand. He died on 28 August 1918, in Bapaume, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, at the age of 31, and was buried in Bapaume, Eure-et-Loir, Centre-Val de Loire, France.
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: Mk2_Zephyr on Monday 30 May 22 04:08 BST (UK)
i do have a tree with cornelius Charles coffey who married Katherine or catherine nee Bryers..born 31 May 1866 Herbs Point, Washington County, Utah, United States

This would be Herds Point, Rawene, not USA.
Title: Re: Cornelius Coffey- For Pelorus
Post by: spades on Monday 30 May 22 05:27 BST (UK)
Hi David, and welcome to RootsChat  :)

Regards

Spades