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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Antrim => Ireland => Antrim Completed Look up Requests => Topic started by: chelleandtoe on Tuesday 06 January 09 15:07 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone give me any information on a James Carlisle born approx 1827. James married Jane Todd in 1850, and the only child I can find at the moment is a Robert James Carlisle born 1875?
Would be grateful if anyone could direct me further with this.
Regards
Chelle
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IGI lists another son- Thompson born 16 June 1877 Ballycorr, Antrim (this may be district rather than actual townland).
You would probably need to search for church records (if they exist), especially to find any children born from the marriage in 1850 to the start of civil registration of births in 1864.
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Thank you for your advise.
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I've been researching some Carlisle family members in Lisburn - my Great Great Great Grandmother was 'Alice Carlisle' from Lisburn, father was a John Carlisle.
Alice married Allen McNeill, 15th August 1846 in Lisburn Civil Registrars Office - i'm only beginning to look into the family in more depth now - I believe Alice had the following siblings - Selina (married George Wilson), Margaret (married James Blakely), Mary (married John Dalton) and William (married Margaret Dornan).
Haven't been able to work out who Alice's mother was yet though, any help on this would be appreciated.
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Hi,
Something slightly odd!
29 Dec 1849 Thomas Carlile (sic) married Jane Todd in Ballyeaston First Presbyterian Church, Ballycor.
19 Apr 1850 James Carlile married Jane Todd in Ballyeaston First Presbyterian Church, Ballycor.
Info is from Emerald Ancestors.
Regards
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Now that is very interesting!!
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Hi,
Something slightly odd!
29 Dec 1849 Thomas Carlile (sic) married Jane Todd in Ballyeaston First Presbyterian Church, Ballycor.
19 Apr 1850 James Carlile married Jane Todd in Ballyeaston First Presbyterian Church, Ballycor.
Info is from Emerald Ancestors.
Regards
Also on the Ulster Historical Foundation site: Thomas Carlisle's (1849) father is listed as 'James' whilst James (1850) also has a father called James - so it is safe to assume they are brothers.
As for Jane, I believe it is the same one - with a father called John that married both of these Carlisle brothers.
The key would be to view the second marriage's details - this can be done for £4 through the Ulster Historical Foundation site and would indicate whether she was widowed or not.
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The plot thickness thank you
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Hi,
My thoughts as well only I am not sure what was allowed in the Presbyterian Church. The two marriages are very close together and the IGI gives the ages of James and Jane as 22.
Regards
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Hi all
I am a member of First Ballyeaston Church and have in my possession at the moment the Marriage register for 1849 and 1850. We are putting the Marriage records on computer.
I have looked up the two marriages. The details are as follows:
29th December 1849
Thomas Carlile, 22 years, Bachelor, Profession a weaver, Residence Carnlea, Father James Carlile a Weaver.
Jane Todd 22 Years, Spinster, Residence Ballyeaston, Father John Todd a Weaver
In Presence of James Carlile and John Lusk
19 April 1850
James Carlile, 23 years, Bachelor, Weaver, Carnlea, Father James Carlile a Weaver.
Jane Todd, 18 Years, Spinster, Ballyeaston, Father John Todd a Weaver.
In Presence of John McCrea and Robert Wilson
I also found baptismal records for Thomas and Jane Carlile
CARLILE F Elizabeth Thomas Tod Janet 29/1/1855 Ballyeaston
CARLISLE M William James Thomas Todd Janet 20/2/1853 Ballyalbana
Thomas and James could have been brothers but as for two Jane's I think that one was called Jane and the other Janet and most likely sisters.
Its a wee bit of a mystery this one.
John
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John,
This came out of the blue to me today but I have been intrigued and your possession of the original documents has answered some questions but still left me slightly intrigued. Many thanks.
Regards
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Most unusual to have one daughter named Jane and another named Janet (and they both married Carlisle who are possibly brothers).
Have seen a few times instances in church registers where ministers got confused and entered the wrong mother's name in baptisms.
What way did the 2 brides sign the registers? (i.e. Jane, Janet or a mark?)
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Hi Aghadowey
1849 Jane is signed by her mark and also Thomas by his mark
1850 signed Jane Todd and signed James Carlile.
John
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I believe they are two sisters and two brothers!!
I have found quite a bit of stuff for Thomas and Janet and definately believe they were certainly one couple.
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Just out of interest, do you have their death listings?
I have a Thomson Carlile, engine smith, Johnstone, single, dying of prneumonia at 22yrs old in 1888, son of James (general labourer adn Jane Todd, and
Thomas, widower of Janet Todd, drowning in a ditch on a farm in Renfrewshire, aged 52, in 1882
Both addresses are near Glasgow, west Scotland.