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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: Sue626 on Tuesday 06 January 09 09:48 GMT (UK)
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Happy New Year! :D
I am interested in a marriage listed on the IGI which is said to have taken place between John Flower & Hannah Hott on 15th October 1753 in 'Norfolk'. I would like to try & find out whereabouts, so I can read the entry next time I am in Norwich. I've looked through Free REG & Boyd's on 'Origins' but it doesn't seem to be there.
Any suggestions anyone??
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not on Norfolk transcriptions either:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,351535.0.html
too early for norfolk marrriage list
Diddy
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Hi
There is always the Heritage Centre at The Forum in Norwich.
Try the Forum website
http://www.theforumnorwich.co.uk/
Ben
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Thank you both for your time & ideas. I will have a look on the forum website.
I think my only other hope is that they married by licence, and that I might be able to find the location from a marriage bond in Norwich.
Thanks, Sue
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Hi
Norfolk Marriage Licenses are also at the Forum I think. Also Boyds Norfolk Marriage Index.
Ben
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Hi Ben
Thanks for the info. I will see what it turns up although, knowing my luck, it will be the wrong marriage after all this!
Incidentally, don't suppose your Suffolk Fairweathers are anywhere near Peasenhall by any chance?
Sue
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Hi
I think they did originate in that area. Mine were in Brandeston after 1740ish.
What is your earliest Fairweather ancestor you have traced and where was he/she born?
Someone else has also been researching the Fairweathers and got back several generations.
Ben
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Hi Ben
Not too far away then.
My earliest is the marriage of Mary Fairweather to William Ludbrook at Peasenhall by Banns on 8th March 1791. They both say they are single and 'of the parish'. The two witnesses were Frederick King and William Brown, the latter being the clerk I think. Their daughter Sarah was my 4xgr.grandmother.
There's no shortage of Ludbrooks in Peasenhall, and I know who William was, but not Mary, hence my enquiry. There seem to be quite a lot of Fairweather clusters in that area, so trying to pin her down to a particular family could be something of a problem.
There is a burial at Peasenhall for Mary, widow of William Ludbrook, on 10th Oct 1831 aged 69, which would put her date of birth somewhere in the region of 1761/62 which I hope, ultimately, will help, but what a great pity she didn't make it to 79!
Any clues could help! Sue
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Hi Sue
I will look into this for you regarding the Fairweathers.
Also I notice that in your signature of names that you have Teago listed. I also have Teago ancestors from Parham, Hacheston and Framlingham.
Ben
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Hi Ben
Thank you re. Mary Fairweather.
If you have a Teago in your line, then we must almost certainly be related, as I believe there to be just the one family of them in Suffolk! Who do you connect with and how far back have you got with them?
Sue
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Hi Sue
My 5xgreat grandmother was Elizabeth Teago born in 1780 in Parham in Suffolk, daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Teago. Elizabeths maiden name was Hunt.
Apparently a source said that Edward was born in Framlingham in 1752 and there was one but unfortunately this Edward died in October 1752, an infant.
Ben
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OK Ben
I have 'your' Edward [1] down as baptised bapt 25th Nov 1753 in Peasenhall, son of Edward [2] & Ann [unknown] Teago. I believe him to be the next one in the same family after the Fram Edward. I seem to be missing your Elizabeth, but co-incidentally, my 2xgr.grandmother was also an Elizabeth Teago, born in Sibton in 1827 descended from Thomas Teago, so we do share some Teago genes!
Edward [2] was baptised 4th Jan 1731 Bedfield, and buried 27th April 1758 in Peasenhall. Ann was also buried there 10th March 1783 [I think] He was the son of Edward Teago [3] born 23rd February 1704, baptised 25th Feb 1704 Earl Soham, and his first wife Martha Davy, buried bur 4th Jan 1731 Bedfield.
Edward [3] was the son of Henry Teago [Teager] and Rachel South, married at Hoxne 7th Oct 1698. The marriage enrty states that Henry was from Earl Soham, where they are both buried.
As to who Henry was ... that's the million dollar question!
I should add that, although I have done my best to substantiate all the above, it's not cast in stone, and if you can prove me wrong them please feel free!
Hope this will help you a little, Sue.
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Hi Sue
Gosh where did you get all that info from. That is amazing. :D
Thanks.
Also we must remember that Teago is a rare and easily mistranscribed name. I am sure the marriage of Edward to Ann is out there somewhere. When was your Thomas Teago born?
Ben
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Hi Ben
I've waded through a lot of fiche in Ipswich to find most of this out, although it's also come via the internet sites and some clever [although I say so myself :-[] detective work. I guess I have too much time to waste!
Unfortunately, I live in Lincolnshire, so can only get to Suffolk now and then, which is also why I have been looking at my Norfolk bods anew, as I hope to be able get a couple of days in Norwich soon.
I have to admit, I am not 100% cast iron sure about my Thomas [1] line, but I do think he was the one baptised 24th March 1776 Peasenhall, husband of Mary Fleet, married 26th Dec 1799 Peasenhall.
My Elizabeth was the daughter of their son John and Lucy Jerry.
My Thomas [1] was the son of Thomas Teago [2] and Ann Bence, married at Peasenhall 16th July 1775, baptised 10th Aug 1755, brother to your Edward, son of Edward and Ann etc.
Yes, it is a very unusual name and, if you look at those listed on the Free BMD site, they appear to all be our relatives. I have yet to find anyone called Teago who is not!
Who did your Elizabeth marry?
Sue
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Hi
Elizabeth Teago married William Eade in 1797 in Parham. She was 17 at the time. William was born in 1772 in Parham.
Ben
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Hello Sue
My grandmother Lily Rose King (nee Howell) migrated with family to Australia in 1928. Her parents were Frederick Francis Howell and Emma A Constant (nee Rose). FF Howell's parents were John Howell and Elizabeth (nee Teago).
I believe the family lived in Sibton, Suffolk and my grandmother was born and raised in Wickham Market.
According to details I hold, John Howell and Elizabeth Teago were married in 1851 in the Parish Church of Sibton (CofE), with both fathers John Howell and John Teago being present. The certificate number is 974873.
I'd be interested to receive any other information that you may have on this branch of the family.
Best wishes,
John Arthur
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Hi John
You have no idea how pleased I am to get your message!
I knew that Lily went to Austraila, and that she had descendants still alive - my grandmother was her sister Clara. I have long tried to find out more about you all, who she married etc. but, despite my best efforts, failed. I believe that you, or one of your relations, kept in contact with my Mother's late cousin, Connie Pendle? I did try & extract some information from her, but I'm afraid that she was less than helpful!
I have a lot of info. about the family, including some photos, so perhaps you would like to send your email address to my message box, & we can get to know one another!
Happy New Year,
Sue
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You should have a look on FreeREG! http://www.freereg.org.uk
They have it as Ellingham (St Mary) by banns.
Christine
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Thanks for that Christine.
Looks like they've added some since I last looked, as I've found several things I was missing.
Sue
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I think they update about once a month - or every 4/5 weeks or something.
I'm pleased to have alerted you to something useful.
Christine
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Sue626
Hullo Sue, my email - (*)
I was pleased to receive your' message. My daughter, Victoria, actually set up my message. I'm more the steam era and don't find computers that easy. Anyway, as she is back in Sydney with her family, I'm having a go!
You were right about our contact with Connie Pendle. My late mother, Constance, kept in touch and when my wife, Joy, and I visited the U.K. in 1992, we met Connie and also the Brices and Yvonne Hamblin ( nee Pendle). Cousins I never knew I had.
Connie informed me that my Grandmother, Lily Rose, had been the "black sheep" of the family, much to everyone's amusement. Although she was well respected in Newcastle N.S.W., where we lived at that time, as she aged some of her stories changed and I had suspected a skeleton in the closet.
More of that next time. I look forward to hearing from you.
Happy New Year , John.
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Hello Sue
My grandmother Lily Rose King (nee Howell) migrated with family to Australia in 1928. Her parents were Frederick Francis Howell and Emma A Constant (nee Rose). FF Howell's parents were John Howell and Elizabeth (nee Teago).
I believe the family lived in Sibton, Suffolk and my grandmother was born and raised in Wickham Market.
According to details I hold, John Howell and Elizabeth Teago were married in 1851 in the Parish Church of Sibton (CofE), with both fathers John Howell and John Teago being present. The certificate number is 974873.
I'd be interested to receive any other information that you may have on this branch of the family.
Best wishes,
John Arthur
Hi all. Just joined RootsChat as I am researching my late mother's Howell roots.
It looks as though some of the posts in this thread refer to common ancestors (Frederick Francis Howell and Emma Ann Constant Rose).
I will be visiting Wickham Market & Sibton later this week to hunt for further clues. If you have any leads please let me know of them.
Regards
Des.
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Did you know that Bishops Transcripts for Norfolk are on the Mormon Site , Family Search Pilot ?
I have had an enormous amout of success with my Norfolk ancesters from it.
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Hi Sue,
I have a John Flower in my tree, he married a Hannah Hott on 5 Oct 1753 in the Parish of Ellingham Norfolk. They both came from the Parish of Ellingham.
I hope this of help to you,if I can be of help please let me know.
Regards,
Tomscot. :D
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Thank you all for your interest, and some new leads.
I have a great deal of info. on my Suffolk Howell family, and would be very interested to know who you are Des! If you are a descendant of FF & EAC Howell, we are related.
Thank you also for the 'Flower' parish. That is very good news. I feel pretty sure it must be my ancestor, & will have too have a look at the entry.
Regards, Sue
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Well where do I start?
My name is Peter Teago and as you can probably gather I am a direct descendent fromI think Thomas Teago, not too sure though as I don't have that much info on us, I live in the N.W. coast of Scotland and finding anything is abit of a hit and miss affair.
The earliest mention I could find on the internet was of a Teago being taken to court in QE1 star court.
So excited at finding other relatives though, any info would be very much gratefully received and if I can fill in any blanks I shall do my best.
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My Edward Teago/Teager died in 1844 aged 92. He was buried in Parham on 26th January 1844.
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I just had a quick look on familysearch using the new search and the marriage for John Flower and Hannah Holt is as follows:
marriage: 15 Oct 1753 — Ellingham, Norfolk, England
groom's name: Jn. Flower Note: the abreviation of his forename.
bride's name: Hannah Hott
marriage date: 15 Oct 1753
marriage place: Ellingham, Norfolk, England
indexing project (batch) number: I02335-8
source film number: 1951630
I also notice that the Ellingham registers are online at familysearch.org so you should be able to get the actual image for this marriage.
Hope this helps
Rick BC Canada
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Hi,
I've just been doing research on Ancestry.co.uk and came to Edward Teago
when I was younger my Grandfather told me the Teager's from Scandinavia - I don't know the truth in this but maybe this will help!