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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Genie13 on Tuesday 08 February 05 21:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am seeking a marriage of a William SIMMS to Elizabeth ?
The marriage would have taken place between 1835 and 1840.
Children were born at Middlewich, Thirlwood Locks and Odd-Rode, CHESHIRE
On the 1851 census, Elizabeth SIMMS was listed as born 1816 Harecastle.
William SIMMS was away during the census, a canal boatman, I believe.
Thank you,
Genie13
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Hi Genie
Welcome to roots chat
I have searched for the marriage in all the indexes I know of without finding it, It is a possibility they never married ,can I suggest that a birth certificate of one of the children would give the maiden name of Elizabeth and with that searching her parentage would be easier.
peterbennett
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Hi,
Have you tried this site about Odd Rode,
it has census transcriptions from 1851, 61 & 71.
http://www.odd-rode.org.uk/
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Thank you Peter for trying to find the marriage of Elizabeth & Wm SIMMS. I will take your suggestion to send for one of the children's birth certificates.
Is there a way of researching James SIMMS b1836 & John SIMMS b 1838 - Astbury, Alsager? They are not on LDS.
Yes, "MOYS", I have seen the ODD-RODE site. I found my family on the 1851 & 1861 census, but Wm was not at home on either of them. I think the site is wonderful; I have enjoyed the photos as well.
Genie
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Hi again,
I'm researching the Burgess family from this area
and I have Ann Burgess married to Thomas Simms
children Levi & Harold, any conection to your Simms?
regards,
Moira
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Thank you Peter for trying to find the marriage of Elizabeth & Wm SIMMS. I will take your suggestion to send for one of the children's birth certificates.
Is there a way of researching James SIMMS b1836 & John SIMMS b 1838 - Astbury, Alsager? They are not on LDS.
Yes, "MOYS", I have seen the ODD-RODE site. I found my family on the 1851 & 1861 census, but Wm was not at home on either of them. I think the site is wonderful; I have enjoyed the photos as well.
Genie
Hello Genie
If James and John Simms are not on the LDS then I am afraid its a matter for the records office at Chester.
sorry cant help much more than that,if you want any census info please ask.
forgot to mention that there are some records and a search facility offered by the vicar at Astbury.
http://www.astburychurch.co.uk/
peterbennett
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Hi Peter,
Thank you for all of your advice and suggestions.
If you could possibly find William SIMMS b abt 1814 and family on the 1841 census, that would be terrific.
others with him might be:
Elizabeth b1816 wife b Cheshire
James b 1836 - Astbury
John b 1838 - Astbury
Sarah b 1840 - Middlewich
Or if you are able to find William anywhere on the 1861, or 1871 or 1881 census, I would be very thankful.
Genie
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Hi
There are no signs of William and family in Odd Rode 1841, some of the pages are illegible so may have missed them,it is possible the were in Middlewich ? still.
I did notice a James Simms c 1800 and family including a 1 month old Sarah,if this is one of yours do you want the details.
peterbennett
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Hi Peter,
Yes, I would like info on James Simms. I believe he may be William's father. I think he was also a boatman. This would be very helpful and I appreciate your look-up.
Thank You,
Genie
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Hi Genie
When going bach to the census page and having a good look I now think its a Thomas not James. Sorry but the page is very feint and dificult to read.
HO107-119-23-PAGE 14/15 Lawton Salt Works Odd Rode
Thomas Simms 40 boatman born in county
Sarah 35
William 10
Thomas 5
Ann 10
Emma ? female 9
George 3
Sarah 1 week
peterbennett
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Thank you Peter,
I'm sure that this William SIMMS will be connected in some way.
Can the census at Middlewich be accessed?
Thanks,
Genie
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have these baptisms for william simms and elizabeth-
james simms bapt 6th march 1836 alsager
john simms bapt 11th feb 1838 alsager
george bapt 6th feb 1851 alsager
enock bapt 18th march 1853 odd rode
eliza bapt 6th april 1855 odd rode
samuel bapt 7th feb1858 odd rode
hope these help?
regards
alli
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Thank you so much. I have not been on this site for quite a while, so I did not see your post.
I had found Sarah SIMMS birth record on Family search but not James or John. After sending away for Sarah's birth cert, it said the mother Elizabeth's maiden name was BOSWELL. On 1841 or 1851 census James SIMMs was with SIMMS grandparents and on another census he was with BOSWELL grandparents. Both grandparents were canal boatpeople. Elizabeth BOSWELL was born at Talke. I still haven't found her marriage to William SIMMS but I suppose they could have married anywhere their canal boat travelled. Where would I look for census records for Newton. Apparently a son David was born there after Sarah?
Genie
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To anyone interested in HAROLD & LEVI SIMMS of Odd Road, Cheshire., later of Alsager and Stoke-on Trent., I can help with the family history. I am the grandson of HAROLD SIMMS and have traced the family back as far as records permit.
I am new to this site and therefore do not know how to publish my findings. I have been researching the Simms and other connected families for more than 50 years. SIMMS was my mother's name.
Regards
Stafford1
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Hi,
I've just found out that I am related to some of the Simms mentioned on this thread.
My 2x great grandmother is the Ann Simms on the 1841 Odd Rode census, parents Thomas and Sarah. I think that Thomas married Sarah Hancock in 1824 and that Thomas is the son of John and Sarah Simms from Sandbach b.c. 1801.
If anyone has more info on this branch of the Simms I would be interested in discovering more.
Thanks,
jubee