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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: G Hearse on Sunday 04 January 09 18:05 GMT (UK)
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Help. i have a relative living in Victoria Tearrace in 1901, but can only find Victoria Street today, is this the same place but "updated"
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http://www.robsoncarter.co.uk/Saltburn-by-the-Sea-Victoria-Terrace-p-236.html
Is this the street? in "Saltburn by the sea"...
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If you give the census reference it should be possible to follow the enumerator's route and see exactly where it was. You can often find a road nearby that still exists that way. "Victoria" was such a popular street name then.
Andrea
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Victoria Terrace was in the Coatham district of Redcar
http://www.multimap.com/world/GB/England/Cleveland/Redcar
zoom in on Coatham then Coatham Road
Barbara :)
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Having found my book, I can tell you that the Coatham area of Redcar was developed mainly along Coatham Road, which you should be able to find on the map. It was made up of several individually named terraces, including Victoria.
The names were changed in about 1935, so Portland, Victoria, Cleveland, Bentinck, Vansittart and Theresa Terraces all became Coatham Road. This was to reduce the confusion caused by the similarity of some names in both Redcar and Coatham.
Barbara :)
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George Hearse, living at No5, with daughter Etrhel May
Stu
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Sorry Stu, just amended my post, please see below for full explanation of road name changes
Yes, definitely Redcar, found George on the census, would now be Coatham Road
Barbara :)
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Thanks very much, so each block would be a "terrace", wouldn't know which is which would you?
Stu
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If I can dig out my old map I may be able to. Here's an old pic of Coatham Road dated about 1900
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Barbara,
That's a lovely photograph but my bearings have gone astray. Which church is it?
Jen
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Christ Church, Coatham
More pics on this website:
http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/themarsh/page11.phtml
Barbara :)
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Stu,
don't know if you already have this information, but I found these Hearse burials at Christ Church, Coatham:
George Henry aged 51 4 Nov 1922
John Henry " 25 18 Aug 1926
Allan George " 27 18 Aug 1926
John William " 67 26 Mar 1940
Evelyn Eunice " 84 26 Mar 1957
Barbara
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Barbara, thanks for this info. I have been looking for George Henry for a while but couldnt find him in Ancestry. I knew about Allan and John who were both killed in the same motorcycle accident on the Trunk Road. They had both been to see Allans wife who had given birth earlier that day, very sad.
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That is really sad, I wondered when I saw they had been buried the same day.
When you say you couldn't find George Henry in the census, I found him, which census are you missing? I can post the details
Barbara
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I couldnt find him in 1901( George Henry), but had his wife and son (Eveline and George) living in Westbourne Grove, Coatham. where do you have hm?
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Sorry, not 1901 for that particular George! Very elusive, have searched under all variations, wonder if he was abroad?
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??, Yes, I have looked under immigration / emmigration in Ancestry and nothing, though I did find his son and grandson in later years. Thanks again for all the info
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Hi George,
Victoria Terrace runs westward from Station Road (Newcomen Street) On the other side of Coatham Road. (opposite side to William Turner School/Library)
Number 5 (1928) Misses D & H Munkley, milliners and S. Munkley, Butcher.
Numbers run from Milbank Terrace end.
Regards George
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Sorry, not 1901 for that particular George! Very elusive, have searched under all variations, wonder if he was abroad?
Boer war perhaps?
Andrea
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Victoria Terrace.
http://www.redcar.net/xmb/vt.php?tid=3722&page=94
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Very Good, much appreciated
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The Allan Hearse who died in the motorcycle accident at the age of 27 was my Great Grandfather. The child who was born, Allan Hearse, was my Great Uncle. His sister is my Grandmother and is still living. I am interested in the Hearse side of the family, Mr Hearse, your photo looks really familiar! I'm sure it's one my Grandmother has shown me.
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I have just thought, about George, there is a family rumour that a Hearse emigrated to America and changed his name to Hearst because of the negative connotations of Hearse. My Grandmother has it that this ancestor was connected to the Hearst publishing empire!
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Hello J Hearse, nice to hear from you. I do have some info on George, which I can share, but I am currently away on holiday so away from my PC. I have been in touch with Barry Hearse, who is the son of Allan, so we have shared a lot of info. I will contact later
Stuart Simpson
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That is my cousin! My Gran, who is now 86, had been researching the Hearse side of the family tree before she took ill and I know that this time last year my dad passed on a big envelope of documents she had collected to cousin Barry when we visited them. My dad told me that there was a will among those papers that belonged to Gran's grandfather or great grandfather & that it was interesting as he'd left a lot of land which had to all be divided up, I will ask if I can have a look at it, it might have been George Hearse's will? Enjoy your holiday, we have just come back from a holiday in N Yorkshire and passed Kirkleatham on our way there, which was how we came to discuss Hearse history again.
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I obtained a copy of Georges will, not much detail, except it shares the interest on him estate between the children, then onto the children's children etc etc. My dad says as a child he and his brothers went to a solicitors to get money for clothes etc. So don't know where it has gone now?
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We have wondered the same, apparently Gran inherited "quite a bit of money for the time" when he died but it can't have been that much as there's none left now! I'm guessing there were so many beneficiaries of the will that what might have been a substantial estate got watered right down. At least he was being fair and everybody benefited. I remember being in the car with my Gran near the Middlesborough/Redcar area and she told me her Grandfather/Great Grandfather had owned the land we were driving past but it wasn't in the family anymore.
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Hello J Hearse, hope you are well. Not sure how much info you have about the extended family but if you could supply an e mail address we can start to share things
Stuart
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Barbara, thanks for this info. I have been looking for George Henry for a while but couldnt find him in Ancestry. I knew about Allan and John who were both killed in the same motorcycle accident on the Trunk Road. They had both been to see Allans wife who had given birth earlier that day, very sad.
An extremely old thread I know. However I have the Allan George Hearse and his brother John Henry Hearse both as brothers in my family tree.
They were both the brothers of my Gran Elizabeth Ann Hearse.
She was approx 3 months pregnant when she got married and as such her Grand father who I assume judging by this thread and all the references in my family tree to the Name George and Ann and also Eveline which is my mother is called Eve must be the same.
I have never gone further back up this lineage than John William Hearse my Grans father, but from what I understand due to my Gran Elizabeth Ann Hearse born Oct 1st 1897 bringing shame on the family her grandfather disowned her and changed his surname from Harder to Hearse. Not sure of how correct this is but my mother told me this.
Link to family tree below. However not much info as I say I have not gone any further up this lineage.
https://marklew.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?view=0&rand=277866219&pid=29&userid=marklew (https://marklew.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?view=0&rand=277866219&pid=29&userid=marklew)