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Title: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: Sandcay on Saturday 03 January 09 16:08 GMT (UK)
I am looking at my Great Grandmother's passport, and trying to locate relatives. She was born Helen Richmond born in Aberdeen on February 7, 1885 or 86, born to Agnes Richmond (born 1860) Her sister was named  (Maggie)Richmond, born in 1896, she married Peter Wilson.
Helen (Nellie) married Hay Logan, he was born in 1883. They had 4 children Agnes (Nan), Helen (Nellie), Harry, and my Grandmother Margaret. They came to the United States in 1923.
Their last know address was Crown Terrace in Partick.

I also have an old photo of Hay Logan and others in front of a business called VALENTINES ENGINEERING & MOTOR HIRING DEPOT. This photos would have to be between 1900-1920. Any information anyone would have any information, that would be great!!!
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: hume on Monday 05 January 09 12:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandcay, :)

Just a bit of info for you ...

Hay Logan married Helen Paton McKinnell Richmond on the 26th of August 1904 at 10 Gladstone Terrace, Old Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire. She was 18, and the daughter of James Richmond, sewing machine packer and Agnes Richmond m.s. [maiden surname] McKinnell. Hay was 23 and the son of Hay Logan, picture frame maker (deceased) and Morrison Logan m.s. Christie (also deceased) . Their witnesses were Hugh and Margaret Richmond.

Helen's birth shows surprisingly in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire of all places! Right across the country from Aberdeen. She was born Helen Lucas McKinnell Richmond on the 7th February 1886 at 7 Richardland Road, Kilmarnock. Parents names are given as James Richmond, draper traveller and Agnes Lucas Richmond, previously Ramsay and her maiden surname was McKinnell. They married December 14th 1885 at Catrine, which is about 12 miles from Kilmarnock.

hume
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: Sandcay on Monday 05 January 09 17:30 GMT (UK)
I cannot thank you enough, and I cannot express how much your information means to our family and most importantly to my 87 year old Grandmother. With your help, this is the first time ever that she has seen a photo of her Grandfather.

Would it be possible  to  advise me how we can obtain further photos and information.

My Grandmother is the only one still living and she was only a year old when she came to the United States. By the time she was 19, her entire family had passed on, so we do not have much information.

Thank you again. The Logan and Richmond family
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: hume on Monday 05 January 09 17:57 GMT (UK)
Hmm, not sure I understand. ??? I didn't give a photograph, simply information from certificates concerning the Richmond and Logan family.

To obtain more information, you should visit ScotlandsPeople, a pay-per-view website, at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

hume :)
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: Sandcay on Monday 05 January 09 23:59 GMT (UK)
My misunderstanding. I will take your advice and research further at the website you suggested.
Again, many many thanks!
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: ev on Tuesday 06 January 09 00:50 GMT (UK)
hi all :)

scotlandspeople has a hugh ramsay marrying an agnes mckinnell 1880
sorn ayrshire

1881 census
no. 11 sorn ayrshire
hugh ramsey 21 coal miner born kilmarnock ayrshire
agness ramsey 20 wife born sorn ayrshire

don't know if this is the same agnes ?

IGI has agnes paton mckinnell born 25th feb. 1861 sorn ayrshire parents
thomas mckinnell and agnes lucas

ev
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: ev on Tuesday 06 January 09 01:08 GMT (UK)
1841 census

catrine mill st. sorn ayrshire
thomas mckinnall 24 shoemaker journeyman born outside census county
agnes mckinnall(lucas ?) 21 born ayrshire

submitted entry from IGI agnes lucas born 17th jan. 1819 baptized 24th jan.
1819 mauchline ayrshire parents daniel lucas and agnes paton

i notice hume 24 already emphasized the names "lucas" and "paton" in the first reply  ;)


ev
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: Sandcay on Thursday 08 January 09 00:20 GMT (UK)
Ev~

Thank you very much for the additional information. We appreciate you taking your time to help us.

Have a happy & healthy 2009 and always!

sandcay

Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: JENNYBROWN4 on Thursday 01 August 13 18:10 BST (UK)
Hello Sandcay in America,

It's a wet, dreich day here in Aberdeen, Scotland, so I was browsing through Roots and came upon the LOGAN name.   My cousin SUSAN DUGUID's mother was MARY TAYLOR LOGAN, and Mary's father was WILLIAM TAYLOR LOGAN, born 13 October, 1876 to HAY LOGAN and his wife, MORRISON CHRISTIE at New Bridge of Don, Old Aberdeen, Scotland.   WILLIAM TAYLOR LOGAN is the brother of HAY LOGAN, born 25 February 1882.   There was another son also named HAY LOGAN, born 11 February 1879, but who died aged 22 months.   

I have been helping my cousin Susan with her Family Tree, and we found HAY LOGAN had emigrated to America in April 1923 onboard the Andania, ariving in New York on the 11th, but was bound for SAGINAW in MICHIGAN.   Did they settle there??    I couldn't find his wife and the 4 children's passage to the USA, but will keep looking.

We are looking forward to hearing from you and exchanging information.   You may also have a communication from my cousin.

Kind regards from JENNY in Aberdeen, Scotland   
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: Sandcay on Tuesday 06 August 13 13:28 BST (UK)
Jenny
I am happy with tears to receive your email.
It was my Great Grandfather, Hay Logan, that first came to the USA, and then my Great Grandmother, Helen (Nellie) came with their four children: Agnes (Nan), Nellie, Harry, & the youngest, my Grandmother Margaret, who is still living.
Yes, they settled in Saginaw, but within a few years of their arrival, they were struck with one tragedy after another.
My Grandmother, Margaret  was told that her Father's family disowned him because he left Scotland, and it was a forbidden subject. So until I started my research, we knew nothing about Grandfather Hay's family.
I will look forward to hearing from Susan, and sharing photos and documents.
Sincerely, Becky
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: JENNYBROWN4 on Tuesday 06 August 13 18:32 BST (UK)
Hello Becky,

Susan was here today and I gave her copies of all your postings and the replies.   She is going to draft out an e-mail for me to send you, but would like to obtain your direct e-mail address.   How do we go about doing this???
 
She was telling me she has a photograph of her Grandfather, William Taylor Logan, but he died on 13 November, 1949, and she was only 3 years old!   

However, I have found another site called  Judy's Family History.   This has the Logan family of Cruden Bay and photographs, stories, etc.   I am sure they are part of your family.    There's a Kilmarnock connection also, which might explain why they went there.   

By the way my husband's Gt. Grandparents came for a tiny fishing village a couple of miles south from Cruden Bay, called Winnyfold.    (Shearer and Parley are their surnames)

Your Grandmother must be about 90 now??   Have you told her about our conversation?

Eagerly awaiting your next communication.

Jenny (christened Jean, but family called me Jenny) in sunny Aberdeen - where are you?

 
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: Sandcay on Saturday 10 August 13 16:36 BST (UK)
Jenny

Greetings from Michigan!

Thank you for your reply. Yes, Grandmother is actually 91 now. I have shared with her that I have been contacted by a cousin in Scotland. She is very emotional about her country and Scottish people in general, and we are as well. My entire life I remember always being at parades, and when the bagpipers came through, she would start crying and need to go to the car. It's that sentimental connection, and I get that, and it is passed on to us as well.

I have documents, photos, and information to share as well. I am not certain of the rules here, but I am going to attempt to you my e-mail address,

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to avoid spamming and other abuses.
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I am so looking forward to seeing a photo of Uncle William, I am very curious if he looks like my Great Grandfather, Hay , beings they are brothers. He was very short in stature, but very musically inclined. Please let Susan know that it sounds like maybe she is my Mom's age, she was born in 1941. They would be 2nd or 3rd cousins?

Look forward to your next reply!

Becky
Title: Re: Helen Richmond LOGAN
Post by: William Duguid on Tuesday 19 March 19 13:03 GMT (UK)
Hi
I see that my cousin Jenny wrote to you a while back, she mentions my sister Susan. I have been looking into my family recently. I think you may also have spoken to my sister.
William