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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Westmeath => Topic started by: mxk1 on Friday 02 January 09 20:22 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for information for Christopher Kelly who, according to the 1901 census, was 44 at the time, meaning he was likely born in 1856 (the census occurred 3/31/01). He was married in January 1871 in Ballynacargy, which if the census was correct, means he was very young. Three of his sons married three Scottish girls around 1920 (my grandfather Michael was one, married in 1920 just east of Glasgow around Glenboig/Coatbridge. Therefore the family must have moved to Scotland sometime after the 1901 census. He had died by 1920, and the family story is that he was killed somewhere in a barroom brawl when my grandfather was 10, therfore around 1903/04.
I have not been able to find a birth/baptism certificate for him. The marriage certificate had essentially no useful info.
Thanks
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I have just recently joined this web site in order to research my Irish connections. My great grandfather was the same Christopher Kelly, my grandfather was Patrick Kelly ,one of the 3 kelly brothers. He married Annie Reilly.
I realise some time has passed since your original post but I may be able to answer some of your questions.
Regards
Pat
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Hello Pat, not sure what the protocol is here but I can see that mxk1 hasn't been online since 20 Jan 2009. I know that you can't send Personal Messages (PMs) until you have posted 3 times. Once you do this, maybe you can PM mxk1 and see if they respond.
Hopefully a Moderator will be along to offer advice soon.
Happy hunting,
Kit
PS. If you haven't already seen them, there are a few old post on the Lanarkshire forum.
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thank you for your help Kit.
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I have not been able to find a birth/baptism certificate for him. The marriage certificate had essentially no useful info.
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question for mxk1 - what sort of marriage record for Christopher do you have ?
A civil marriage cert should show a couple of vital clues - e.g. places of residence for Christopher and Anne, names and occupations for their father's etc
see : Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Shane
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I believe this may be the family on the 1901 census - townland name is actually Ballycorkey, which is in Kilbixy civil parish and not far from Mullingar town. Ballynacarrigy town and townland are about 5km south of Ballycorkey.
Kelly household - 1901 (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Kilbixy/Ballycorkey/1779737/)
No sign of this Kelly family at that location in 1911
Shane
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Kit,
they were in Scotland by then.
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Hi Pat, didn't read them. I was just aware that information/questions had been posted in case they were of help/interest.
Hope you get some answers.
Kit
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Thanks to all here - my second cousin Pat contacted me by email, we are now FaceBook friends, and we will start the info exchange soon.
Mike Kelly
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Shane, you are correct with respect to the Christopher Kelly 1901 census result. When I first discovered it - looking at LDS records in Salt Lake City about 15 years ago - I still had 2 mysteries: 1) where was his wife (the expanded form says he is married - not a widower), and 2) where was my grandfather Michael?
Further investigation with LDS records yielded this:
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Kilbixy/Ballynacarrigy/1779870/
Note the location. He and a young sister is staying with an older sister, with a different (married) surname. The age and location matches Michael's birth certificate.
I believe that when I mentioned the marriage certificate in my initial posting, I was referring to Michael's, not Christopher's - I dont believe I have the latter's. Both parents were listed as deceased in 1920, and I cannot find either in 1911, so the family story of Christopher's death in 1903/4 remains possible.