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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Louth => Topic started by: julieann1 on Wednesday 31 December 08 07:45 GMT (UK)
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I haven't done any Irish genealogy before.
I understand that the 1911 census for Ireland is complete, also that quite a lot of the 1901 survives. I found the National Archives for Ireland site has part of the 1911 online, but where does one search the rest, and the 1901?
Also I need to search for a marriage, but have no idea which part of Ireland it took part in. (Hence needing to look at the census).
Any tips?
Thanks
Julie
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Hi Julie,
Only Dublin, Antrim, Down and Kerry 1911 census are available to view on National Archives Ireland site. The other counties will be published hopefully by mid-2009. You can see the list on the National Archives site in "Future Plans for Census" section.
1901 and 1911 Census microfilms can be ordered from LDS centres as far as I am aware.
Perhaps if you post the names you are searching for in Ireland, Rootschatters may be able to help you.
Sio
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Thanks for the reply. I have a feeling this is going to be like looking for a needle in a haystack! :-\
The family I am researching are as follows (and it's not much):
James Joseph McAllister was born in Liverpool 1917. His parents were Edward McAllister (a Marine Fireman) and Mary Scott.
Mary Scott may have come from Edinburgh
Edward McAllister was born in about 1879 in Ireland. He died in Edinburgh in 1935. His parents were Edward McAllister (an Engine Driver) and Catherine Ryan. I believe they lived in Ireland, but don't know whereabouts.
It's not much to go on, so any crumb of information is valuable.
Thanks to anyone who can help
Julie
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All of 1901 and 1911 census records for Ireland survive (they are the 1st 2 complete ones).
IGI lists a child for an Edward McAlister and Catherine Ryan (can't be 100% these are you couple):
Catherine born 8 May 1880 Greenore Parish, Carlingford, Louth.
See www.familysearch.org for that record. IGI has many, not all, Irish births 1864-c1882.
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Do you have Edward's death cert. 1935? Often there are details of the parents on Scottish certs.
Might tell you where and when theywere married.
Kooky
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:) Oh Thankyou! that's a breakthrough, if it's the right family I now know where they come from.
Yes, I do have the death cert, that's where I got Edward senior and Catherine from, but that's all the info there was.
Thankyou both :)
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Don't get your hopes up too much- both McAllister and Ryan are common Irish surnames and this might not be the same couple that you are looking for but at least it's a possibility.
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I need to confirm it by finding them with their son, or confirming Edward seniors occupation of engine driver. :o Where does one access the 1901 and 1911 census?
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1911 is gradually being added on National Archives, Dublin website. See here for order counties are being added (Louth is a while yet). After all 1911 is done they are putting on 1901.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/futureplans.html
1901 and 1911 are also available on microfilm to order for viewing from your local LDS library but you need to know where they lived to order the correct film.
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Thanks. I guess I'll just have to file that line for future research.
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:) Having just got Edward's naval record, he did indeed come from Greenore. So it looks likely that Catherine was his sister.
Thnks
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That's fantastic as now you know where to start searching for church records, etc.
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Ok, so now I've got a place name and a date of birth (from his naval record), where do I go to find birth records? And does it matter that i don't know which denomination he was?
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To order Irish certificates:
www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
To find details of townlands and civil parishes in Ireland:
http://www.thecore.com/seanruad (be sure to change default setting from exact match to search for part of a name)
Once you have the name of the parish you can see if the church records exist. LDS online catalogue (www.familysearch.org) has some Irish church records- if you find one you want you can order the microfilm from your local LDS library for a small fee to be viewed there.
Meanwhile, do you want me to move this thread over to the Co. Louth board so people with more local knowledge can suggest sources?
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Thanks again.
Yes, I should move it over to Louth. Can the thread be moved or should I start a new one?
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Thanks, Aghadowey, for moving it.
Hope someone can help me with this line. I would also be interested in any relevant local history and photos.
To summarize:
I am looking for the family of Edward McAllister. When he joined the Navy in 1896 he gave his date and place of birth as Cooley 18th December 1877.
He married Mary Scott. Unfortunately I don't have a date for the marriage. I have searched through Scottish and English indexes without finding it. It is possible that they married in Ireland.
He left the Navy in 1902. He was still described as a 'marine fireman' on later documents, so I am guessing he was still a sailor.
He was living in Liverpool by 1917 when his son was born. He may have been living there by 1910.
Sometime between 1920 and 1927 he moved to Edinburgh.
He died in Edinburgh in 1935. His death cert gives his parents as Edward McAllister and Catherine Ryan.
There is a birth of a Catherine McAlister on the IGI in Greenore Parish, Carlingford, on 8 May 1880 to Edward McAlister and Catherine Ryan.
I would like to find:
Marriage of Edward McAlister and Catherine Ryan.
Birth of Edward McAlister/McAllister junior
Any records relating to this family.
Any advice on where to find anything gratefully received.
Thanks in advance
Julie :)
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This website you can order copies of certs from:
http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0
I've done a quick search and there is a church marriage record for Edward McAllister in 1876 in Louth and also a church marriage record for 1876 for Catherine Ryan in Louth so I would guess this would be the right one? The date would fit with the birth of Catherine in 1880
You can buy the record from them for €5
HTH
Aileen