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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Martincreagh on Monday 29 December 08 20:39 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm looking for some information on my great grandfather who was registered in the Dublin census of 1911 and gave his birthplace as Doneraile Co Cork and age as 47. If anyone can give any more information it would be appreciated.
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from Slaters of 1894 for Doneraile
private residents section - ie. the important people!
Captain Richard Creagh , Stream hill
Langley B Creagh . Stream hill
Mrs. Isabella Creagh , Snug
in the 1881 edition Doneraile is included in the Mallow section
Mr. Arthur G Creagh . West end
Mrs. Eliza Creagh , Doneraile
George Washington B. Creagh Esq. Woodville, Buttevant
Mrs. Helena Creagh , Ballygarrett
Mrs. Isabella Creagh , Snug, Doneraile
Major Kilner Creagh , J.P. Creagh Castle, Doneraile
p.s. there are also Creagh entries for Doneraile on Griffiths valuation - see http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php
Shane
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Civil registration began in Ireland in 1864 (only Church of Ireland marriages start from 1845)-before that you would have to rely on parish records.
You could write to the parish priest in Doneraile(Richard and Louisa say they are RC on the 1911 census)to see if he has the baptism/marriage records. On the census Louisa says she was born in Cork -so it could possibly be Doneraile.
Another way would be to trace back from the children - if you apply for one of their birth certificates from the GRO in Roscommon or one of the local county registrars(approx 10 euros)you would learn Louisa's maiden name.
Then possibly trace the marriage. as this was after the start of civil registration in 1864.Sometimes it's quicker to apply to the local registrar(Cork) and I think they accept cash. (click on 'Fees' and scroll down on the link)
The Irish Family History Foundation ahve put a lot of church records on line. It's free to register and search but 5 euros to view any record. There are a couple of entries for Richard Creaghs born around 1864. You can select a parish.
One is in Doneraile in 1867. However it might not be the right one - obtaining the certificates might be a better way.
The IGI also has some entries for Richard Creagh .There are lots of Creaghs from Doneraile and nearby on the IGI. Some names look very impressive. There's a Louise Creagh born in 1872?
There must have been a large family.I tried all sorts of Creagh names - John,Richard,Mary,Elizabeth,Benjamin,Michael - sometimes the IGI won't let you search with just the surname. The address for some of them was Creagh Castle!
If you just do a google search for 'Creagh Castle Cork' you should find some
information on the Creaghs of Doneraile.
I've enclosed some links for you.
http://www.iol.ie/~nodonnel/gentleman'svillage.htm
http://www.hidden-ireland.com/creagh/index.htm
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
http://corknortheast.brsgenealogy.com/search.php?filename=db_QUIS
http://www.groireland.ie/
Hope this helps
Good Luck
Neptune
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Hi
Thanks for that information. I am impressed with the speed and depth of the responses as I wasn't expecting a response as soon!!! Thanks to you both for taking the time to reply and respond.
Regards Martin
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My grandparents worked for Langley Brasier Creagh at Streamhill - I have pictures of it!
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Hi
That would be nice, could you upload them?
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Having problem attaching pictures!
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Hi,
It can be difficult sometimes getting pictures on the site. You need to edit the size of them ( make them much smaller ) and then you will be able to put them up.
With regard to information on Streamhill and the Creaghs, you will find some relevant information on the Cork city library site,
www.corkpastandpresent.ie click on places, then North Cork, then Grove White notes, then Index to places, then Streamhill.
This is from "The Historical and topographical notes etc, Buttevant, Castletownroche, Doneraile, Mallow and surrounding areas," by Col. James Grove White ( who was from the Doneraile area). It is full of information on the families living in those areas with some photos of the "big houses". For anybody researching in the North Cork area - ( the gentry mostly) it is a great resource.
Hope you find something relevant.
Regards
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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trying to trace my greatgrandmother and unfortunately have reached a dead end but do know that she worked in Streamhill House and actually lived nearby. She gave birth to my grandmother in 1881 so she must have worked for the Langley-Creaghs. Wonder does anyone have a list of the staff or any other info. Apparently she was a cook.
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My Grandparents worked for Langley Brasier Creagh at Streamhill - I have pictures! I found my grandfather working there as early as 1901 (Census) My Grandmother - Julia Ryan was also a cook
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In my Burke tree I have two variants on the name Creagh and wonder whether they're just misspellings.
William Burke of The Neale, Co. Mayo, m. 6 Apr. 1858 Anne, eldest dau. of Stephen W. Creaghe; she was b. in Dublin some time between 1829 and 1832 (one of those many women who did not age by the expected 10 years between censuses). Could her parents have been Stephen Creagh and Sally Persse, or am I jumping to conclusions?
William's sister Mabel Maria m. in 1853 Thomas Trouton, eldest son of Charles Robert Trouton and his wife Mary Anne née Creek. Was that simply a mishearing or an anglicized pronunciation of Creagh, or is there really a family of Creek?
And now I'm wondering about the Persse connection, because Eleanor Elizabeth Aickin m. in Auckland, NZ, ca 1912, Robert Persse Creaghe. So perhaps Creaghe really is the right spelling there. Can anyone put me right?
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Thanks for the info. This is a great site. Actually got a great deal of info on corkpastand present about Streamhill House and the surrounding area. Also I was wondering how you know your grandparents worked in Streamhill House. Was there documentary evidence or just word of mouth.
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I know my grandparents worked for the Braiser Creigh's at Streamhill because after Langley died, Ella May his wife, came to live in Mursley, Buckinghamshire. She brought my grandparents, their three daughters, and Martin O'Grady with her. All three daughters then worked for Ella May as did Martin O'Grady. Martin married one of the daughters - these were my parents. Sadly my mother passed away recently, she would have been 100 later this year. She was still living in Mursley!
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I know this tells us nothing about any servants or employees, but the family of Brasier-Creagh is in Burke's Irish Family Records.
William Harrington Sherlock Langley-Brasier-Creagh, of Stream Hill;
b. 14 Apr. 1857; d. 15 July 1921. m. (1st) 14 Apr. 1887 Jane, only child of Henry Langley of Byblox, Doneraile [which is presumably when he added the name Langley]. She d. 4 May 1889 [it doesn't say so, but I imagine in childbed of a stillborn child or one that didn't survive]. He m. (2nd) 27 Feb. 1902 (Ella) May, 4th dau. of Edward Maynard Denny of 1 Bryanston Square, London W1. She d. 29 Jan. 1958. No children (or no surviving children) by either marriage.
It doesn't say what became of Stream Hill. May's youngest sister m. one of William's younger brothers, Kilner Brazier-Creagh -- yes, the various members of the family couldn't agree whether to spell it with an S or a Z.
The present head of the family is descended from a cousin, son of William's father's eldest brother. I wonder whether you'd be able to google up a present-day member of the family, in Co. Cork or England or elsewhere, who would know something? The book was published in 1976, so I doubt many of the postal addresses given would apply now.
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Have a look at the website 'Abandoned Ireland' Streamhill House is on there, and you will see what happened to the house!!
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I go to Doneraile a lot and have been in Streamhill House. Badly vandalised now but was luvly house when I was a chilld in the 50's and 60's. A lot of my relations worked there when it was owned by the Dills. My mother worked in Creagh Castle in her youth and apparently it was haunted. A huntsman was drowned there. These Creaghs were related to the Langley Creaghs of Streamhill. Lily Langtry stayed there in her day.
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Thanks for all the info I have been given on this site. I have discovered by looking at the site www.corkpastandpresent.ie that in fact my greatgrangmother would in fact have worked for Charles William Murphy the gent who owned Streamhill House before Langley-Creagh circa 1890. Unfortunately there is no census to troll for that era so thats knocked on the head.