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Merry Xmas :) :)
I am looking for more information on an Ellen Annie King who I have been advised by family was born in 1860 in Oxfordshire. However the 1891 & 1901 census states she was born in 1862 in Paddington, London.
In 1881 she married an Alfred George Baker Elliott from Poole in St Marylebone. They had two children Florence and Maude, I can find her there until 1911.
What I cannot find is any birth registered under King in either area or a death around 1929 under Elliott.
Can anyone help locating her birth or death.
Many thanks
Jayne :) :)
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Hi
Unfortunately King is such a common name that you may need to get the marriage certificate to be sure of her father's name. Once you have that finding her in earlier census should be easier.
Andrea
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Thanks Andrea :)
I am to impatient for the Aussie post to deliver!!
Will wait !!
Cheers
Jayne :)
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Let us know when you get it! I had a look at earlier census and there are just too many possibilities. I did wonder whether she might have remarried at some point - perhaps after 1911 if you have found her then? Or do you have family info that proves she dies as Elliott?
Andrea
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Hi Andrea,
Family members, that may have known of her seem to think she died as an Elliott.
Cheers
Jayne :)
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I am looking for my grt grt grandmother Ellen Annie King - can not find her on the 1881 & 1871 census or a birth record.
I have finally found out the name of the father - Edward King.
I have also found out that in September 1881 - Ellen was living at 17 Nottingham Place, Marylebone, however her father had passed away by then.
I am getting a little confused as family tell me she was born around 1860 in Oxfordshire and she lived around Watlington. The marriage cert says she is 21yrs in 1881, which verifies 1860.
However, I have found her on the 1891 & 1901 - say she was born in c1862 in Paddington, London. The 1911 census shows her being born in 1860. It is definitely her in 1891 & 1901 census as my grt grandmother and sister are living with her.
I think I have been staring at this to long. Can anyone help to lift the haze ?!
Many thanks
Jayne :) :)
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Hi
Can you quote the census details you have? Also full details from the marriage certificate including occupations and names of witnesses as they are often family members.
I assume you have looked at spelling variants for Elliott/Eliot/Elliot etc
In 1891 the reference is RG12 92 19 31 and she is a widow. Could she have remarried after 1911? Have you looked to see if Alfred left a will?
Andrea
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Hi Andrea,
Sorry it has taken me a little while to come back - I had to find the census details reference numbers!! Located them at the bottom of the page - always something new to learn!!
1881 - Reg: 11/138 5 3 - ???
1891 - Reg: 12/92 19 31 - same as you
1901 - Reg: 13/106 13 17
1891 & 1901 are correct as my grt grandmother is born and living with her in both these censuses along with her sister.
I am hoping the 1881 is her, as 12 Little Marylebone St, is just to close to where he soon to be husband is living in 1881 at 2 Little Marylebone St.
The marriage certificate details are as follows:
Date: 7 Sep 1881
Husband: Alfred George Baker Elliott
Age: 29 years
Condition: Bachelor
Rank or Profession: Butcher
Residence: 2 Little Marylebone St
Fathers name: Alfred John Elliott - Bookbinder
Wife: Ellen Annie King
Age: 21 years
Condition: Spinster
Residence: 17 Nottingham Place
Fathers name: Edward King - Deceased - General Dealer
Married in the Register Office by Licence before Frank Stokes register and Joseph Bedford - Superintendent Registrar
Witnesses: Elizabeth Poulter & Tho Ansell
I have been unable to locate a will for Alfred, however, I will follow this up. My mum's cousin is quite definite that Ellen did not remarry, and that she died in 1929.
Any help would be terrific.
Many thanks
Jayne
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Hi
Have you ruled out this death? Looks to be the right sort of age:
Sep qtr 1929
Ellen A. ELLIOTT aged 69
Lambeth 1d 279
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1881 - Reg: 11/138 5 3 - ???
I am hoping the 1881 is her, as 12 Little Marylebone St, is just to close to where he soon to be husband is living in 1881 at 2 Little Marylebone St.
The marriage certificate details are as follows:
Wife: Ellen Annie King
Age: 21 years
Condition: Spinster
Residence: 17 Nottingham Place
Fathers name: Edward King - Deceased - General Dealer
The 1881 reference you have doesn't look terribly promising to me, as that Ellen (b Marylebone) is a daughter of George King, ladies' shoemaker which does not tie in with your Ellen's marriage certificate.
I would have thought that a better candidate for your Ellen in 1881 is at RG11/141/59/22 - a 23 yr old Paddington-born lodger/servant ???
ETA: Or Annie King, 21 b London, in service in Paddington in 1881: RG11/6/73/39...
Anna
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Hi,
Anna, you are probably right, I will see what I can find, thank you.
I had not found that death notice before, but it certainly fits the picture. Hopefully it may uncover a little more information.
Many thanks
Jayne
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Hi :),
I have a little more information re my grt grt grandmother - Ellen Annie Elliott (nee King)
1911 census - shows her still living in Lambeth & born in Paddington in 1860
I was hoping someone may be able to do a birth lookup for:
KING Annie Ellen Kensington 1a 3
Fingers crossed her father is called Edward King
Many thanks
Jayne ;) :)
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Unfortunately nobody has access to information on a birth certificate without purchasing it. They cost £7 and you can specify that you only want it if the father is called Edward. You would need the full reference - ie including the quarter and year it was registered. June 1860. A better bet at this stage might be an 1861 census look up.
Andrea
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Apologies Andrea,
Got to excited and was not thinking - have been looking for her for a long time.
Cheers
Jayne
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I did try 1861 but there are far too many of them. This is a difficult one.
Andrea