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Title: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: patrexjax on Saturday 27 December 08 02:12 GMT (UK)
Hello all, I have found a collateral rellie listed in 1908 as a Lt. (Francis Stewart Mc Gachen) on board the HMS Cressy.  I was shocked to see a wikipedia article that stated the Cressy had been sunk by a German U-Boat in Sept. 1914.  Can anyone tell me if the crew of the Cressy survived?  I searched cgwc and could not seem to find Francis S. McGachen there.  ANY information appreciated. Thank you kindly!  Pat
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 27 December 08 03:15 GMT (UK)


Hi Pat !

This site gives 562 names on the casualty list ......... Admiralty records show a total of 564 men were lost including the one man who died in hospital at a later date.

http://www.clarke-rowland.freeserve.co.uk/CressyRoll.htm

I couldn't see your man I'm afraid .... but maybe you could go over the list just in case !  :-\ .... but I wonder if you could find him at the Archives

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=131&j=1

Annie  :)
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: patrexjax on Saturday 27 December 08 04:07 GMT (UK)
Hello Annie, Thank you so much for the information and the web-sites. I agree, he doesn't seem to be there. Perhaps he was re-assigned to another ship after the 1908 roster.  I'll just keep digging.  Thanks again and I want you to know how much I appreciate ALL you do for all Rootschatters everywhere.  :)  May 2009 be a wonderful year for you.  Pat
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: Peter Bathe on Saturday 27 December 08 07:40 GMT (UK)
Another good site about the action when Cressy, Aboukir and Hogue were lost is

http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/cressy.htm

Also

http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1914-09Sept.htm

is a record of Naval personnel who were lost, ship by ship - the page I've given you is for the month Cressy was sunk - there were survivors, some 837 were saved, but 1,459 were lost from the three ships
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: patrexjax on Saturday 27 December 08 14:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you, siegebatteries.  I have found my man marrying after the sinking, so it appears he was reassigned to another vessel. Thanks for your interest.  Pat
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: kadear on Wednesday 04 April 12 13:02 BST (UK)
I don't know if this is the right site to place a remark regarding the loss of HMS Cressy. So much has been made of the TITANIC sinking in 1912 - is it not time there should be a commemmoration of the sinking in 1914 of these three ship of the "live bait" squadron - a far greater loss of life than in 1912.
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 04 April 12 14:00 BST (UK)
If he was serving in Cressy in 1908 he would certainly be elsewhere 8 years later - from my researches posting rarely lasted more than two years.

I have located him in http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/navy.asp - search the ADM340 records with surname only - he has two records which you'll be abe to download (you will have to pay, unless you can get to Kew, when you'll only need to pay the print cost). These records of service can be fascinating.

Looks like he was promoted to Lt Cdr.

Good luck
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: patrexjax on Wednesday 04 April 12 17:23 BST (UK)
Hello kadear and GrahamSimons, thank you both for the additional information.   ;D  Pat
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: crimea1854 on Wednesday 04 April 12 22:13 BST (UK)
According to the 1914 Navy List Lt. Com McGachen was serving on HMS Ocean.

Martin
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: patrexjax on Wednesday 04 April 12 22:35 BST (UK)
Hello Martin!  And yet more wonderful information!  ;D  Thank you!  Pat
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: crimea1854 on Thursday 05 April 12 17:01 BST (UK)
Hi

In 1900 he was serving on HMS Endymion as a Midshipman, and was with the Naval Brigade that under Admiral Seymour lifted the Siege of Peking during the Boxer Rebellion. The following link will take you to the page in the London Gazette where he is mentioned, but if you go to the first page of the dispatch from Seymour, you will get a better understanding of what he was actually involved in.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/27235/pages/6099


For this service he would have received the 1900 China Medal.

Martin
Title: Re: HMS Cressy sunk 1914 - info pls
Post by: patrexjax on Thursday 05 April 12 17:12 BST (UK)
Hello again Martin!   Really quite impressive.  THANKS!   Pat