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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: Meg jr on Monday 22 December 08 19:52 GMT (UK)
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Good evening
I wonder if anyone could help me please with a query regarding Hampton (a place in Birmingham).
The time frame is 1780-1820.
Is or was there a Hampton Street in Birmingham at this time. If so, is there a connection to Wolverhampton?
If anyone can shed any light I would be very grateful. If there is map available of the area for the time frame I would also like to know where to access this please
thank you
Meg :)
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You don't mean Hampton in Arden do you? Although not in Birmingham it is not far.... you are probably looking at a similar distance to Wolverhampton away but south of Birmingham. I had some ancestors who moved around the area and lived there at a time but ended up in south Birmingham
Claire
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Hello Meg
Hampton St. doesn't have a connection to Wolverhampton.
At this time there was a Great Hampton St,Great Hampton Row & Little Hampton St. as well,all in B'ham.
Hampton st. was there at the dates you mention,and still is today.
jim
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There are lots of places with Hampton in the name.It was name given to small areas with dwellings originally.There's also Hampton Magna & Hampton Lucy.None have a connection to Hampton St.
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Many thanks to Claire and Jim for replying
The document I have just says that the person concerned came from Hampton. Trying to eliminate all the Hampton's.
best wishes Meg ;D
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Back again for more advice please
If someone states in an old document (ealry 1800's) that there native place is somewhere. Would they mean that's where they live currently or where they born years earlier.
Still trying to pinpoint the correct Hampton. Complicated as the person may have been born in Wolverhampton but later lived Hampton Street. I therefor of the opinion that these are the two Hamptons I am trying to sort out
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thanks
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Hello Megan
Can you tell us what document you have.Using the word "native" seems unusual phrasing,does it say that or does it say "Parish".Which County does it refer to as Woverhampton is in Staffs,B'ham is in Warks.Wolverhampton has never been referred to as Hampton,we really need more details to progress further.
jim
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The person was transported to Australia and the exemption from Government labour certificate says that his native place is Wolverhampton but he is tried in Warwick. There's the confusion between Warwickshire and Staffordshire.
Sorry about this. May be a difficult one to solve.
Meg :)
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So he came from Wolverhampton Staffs. but committed his crime in Warks. probably B'ham that's why he was tried at Warwick.Does this make sense.
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Hello Jim, thanks for you reply
I think we may have the answer there.
thanks Meg ;D
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Hi
I also am interested in Hampton Birmingham.
In regard to native place I wonder if the authorities asked 'where did your family come from?' and because his parents came from Wolverhampton he gave the reply 'Wolverhampton' even though they had moved to Birmingham before he was born.
Also I wonder if Hampton is an abbreviation of Wolverhampton. Wolverhampton is often written W'Hampton so the 'W' could easily have been omitted in a transcription. OR it could be that the stafford accent was difficult to understand and only the 'Hampton' part of 'Wolverhampton' was heard/understood and recorded.
If you use google maps you will find 'Hampton Street' and 'Great Hampton Street' in Birmingham. So the Hampton could be just the street name.
I will be interested to hear of solutions to this puzzle.
Argneli
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The "Black Country" accent was well understood in B'ham as there were so many living there.Wolverhampton was very well known to everyone as there was a lot of business between to the two towns.The word Hampton appears all over England in many place names.There isn't anywhere in B'ham called Hampton,the closest being Hampton-in Arden in S.Warks.Many of the outlying streets were so named as that is where they led,many being coaching routes,ie.Lichfield St,Walsall St & Bromsgrove St.The street names you gave(Little Hampton St. & Great Hampton Row being others) are some of the oldest in B'ham and probable led to outlying villages ie. Nechells,Duddeston & Edgbaston.
Regards Jim & welcome to RootsChat.
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Hi Jim
Thanks for your reply. You seem to have great local knowledge. I will give you more details of MY interest and then ask you if you would like to say what 'Hampton' might refer to. MY scenario is:-
Parents born at Wolverhampton. Married at Wolverhampton 1787. One ( or two) children born at Wolverhampton. Moved to Birmingham about 1790. Further children baptised at either St Martins or St Phillips. Parents' addresses when they died were Lancaster St and Loveday Street (1823; 1826).
Peter transported to Australia for crime committed at Bromsgrove Street 1817. On records for Peter - Native Place: Hampton. ( don't know if this was filled in locally or somewhere else in England - perhaps point of leaving)
Brother Benjamin transported to Australia for crime committed 1823 ( don't know location). On records for Benjamin - Native Place: Wolverhampton.
We wondered if the fact that Hampton was on the records was an transcript error or if Peter lived in the area of the Hampton Streets that might have been known locally as'Hampton'. or...
I did find out that there was a 'ward' of Hampton created 1838 as one of the 'wards' of Birmingham.
Help appreciated
Argneli