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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: VictorianDreamer on Monday 22 December 08 04:06 GMT (UK)
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I thought this one would be of interest to the fashion fans in here. The headwear is something I've never seen before.
We think this photo may have been taken after her husband died (1899) in Tasmania, as she died within 5 years. Another photo with her at a similar age, and wearing the same hat, includes family that we are sure lived in Victoria, so we assume they may have been present for his funeral, or to look after her afterwards.
Victoria
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Hi Victoria,
Wow! :o That's some bonnet...it's a work of art! How old would the lady have been in this pic, do you think?
Prue
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Hi Prue,
She'd be about 80 IF it's in 1899 as we think. We haven't got much information on her, and several surnames she's used just confuse us even more, so she's a bit of a mystery, but I love the picture.
Victoria
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Sorry for butting in, - but - just have to say i LOVE the hat, never have i seen one like that before
Awesome !
Daizi
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Could be a widow's cap, as the rest of the outfit seems to be unadorned, unrelieved dark colour that could be black...although the white sashes were, I thought, more fitting to a child's death as they were supposed to represent purity and innocence...
Cheers,
China
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Thanks China.
None of her children died until they were over 60. The first child death we've found in this line was years after she had passed away.
One of her daughters actually moved into a house with her brother in Victoria, and she was the same daughter that was listed as the informant for her mother's death.
Her death was listed as Senile Decay, so our natural assumption was that, after her husband died, the spinster daughter stayed behind. or went back eventually, to look after her mother until she passed away.
She apparently never left Tasmania, so that leads us back to a family gathering. The other photo shows her wearing the same bonnet, what looks like a long cape, and possibly dark gloves. (The photo, at the following site, isn't in the best condition, and the area of the fingers could just be too darkened)
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~albonser/christies.html
Victoria
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looking for the hat i found these.
i would not have liked to wear these in duck shooting season.
yuk
it is an aussie book i looked at
sylvia
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HELLO I FOUND YOUR PHOTO AND HOPE IT IS OKAY TO SHOW IT
IF NOT I AM SORRY AND WILL TAKE IT OFF AGAIN
SYLVIA
DO YOU THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN THE SAME TIME IN BOTH PHOTOS THERE ARE RATTAN CHAIRS.
oops sorry about capitals
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Hi Victoria,
Your lady looks pretty good for an eighty year old. Hardly a wrinkle to be seen. I wonder what she used to keep herself looking so young.
Also love her bonnet.
Whereabouts in Tasmania did she live. I`m just interested as I live in Tassie myself.
Johngirl
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Wow what a lovely photo
very Victorian.
Yes possibly Widows cap but then again could have been very cold in Tasmania. :)
cheers
floozy
i googled about widows caps a few interesting sites
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http://www.cartes.fsnet.co.uk/date/a1860.htm
4 similar photos
sylvia
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Sylvia,
I've actually got an advertisement out of an old newspaper my mother has kept, and it was selling fur coats, made of Rabbit, Fox and Cat! I dare not show my animal loving daughter!
I think the photo was taken at the same time, although I'm not sure if she's in exactly the same clothes in the second photo. I 'think' she's wearing two different coloured/textured materials.
Johngirl,
She doesn't look too bad. Our family has been pretty lucky on the health front, and most live at least until their 60's and older.
They lived in Sorrell. Her husband was actually told to stay out of Hobart and Launceston (Tasmanian Archives). We also notice that he had another female visitor when he first began to apply for a Ticket of Leave, but it was rejected numerous times, before he finally was approved, and got married.
floozy,
I've never seen anything similar to it, but sure someone out there will come across another one sooner or later. We're not sure even of her nationality at the moment, although we 'think' England, Ireland, Scotland. The problem is, on different records, we actually have four different names, and considering she didn't marry into our family until she was about 33, we 'think' she may have had an earlier marriage, which would give us her maiden, first marriage, and second marriage. The fourth name is a complete mystery, as her last name was Christie, and we found records for her having children under the name Christopher. Dare say that was a Friday job!
Sylvia,
Thankyou :)
Victoria
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Hi Victoria,
Many of my descendants lived and grew up in Sorell Tasmania. My GGGG Grandfather was the first. He lived there from the 1820`s until his death.
What was the married name of your lady if you don`t mind me asking. Many of the familys in Sorell were related in some way.
Johngirl
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Hi Johngirl,
We've got her names as Hannah Erly, Tilley and Christie. We think Erly (Early) was her maiden name, Tilley (spelt various ways) her name from her first marriage, and Christie when she married into our family.
We have absolutely no idea when or how she came to be in Tasmania.
We found at least two other Christie families in Tasmania, but mainly Hobart, Launceston areas. No connection to them yet.
Victoria
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Hi Victoria,
None of those names connect with any of mine unfortunatly
Have you got access to the Pioneer indexes. There are quite a few Christie surnames on there.
Also they have Ann instead of Hannah on the marraige indexes for her marraige to James Christie.
Johngirl
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I'd say it's a widow's outfit, with cap and cape and gloves.
Cheers,
China
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Hi Johngirl,
Yes, I do have Tasmanian Pioneer Index that goes up to 1899. All our Christie's are in there, plus an extra one just to make their tree that little more interesting ;)
Someone sent me information about another Christie that showed up on another Index (Victorian something?), and as far as I knew, Hannah/Ann only had 6 children, but this one showed up with Hannah/James as her parents when she died? We did find a coincidence with one of the daughters names giving birth to a female child about the right year, and when I entered the information into the program for the family tree info, it basically said something along the lines of 'Hannah would be too old...', so that's a branch that may need some pruning. :)
We have about 6 different names for Hannah/Ann Tylie/Tyley/Tilley/Erly/Early/Christie/Christopher, so that had us bamboozled looking for her children, but we did eventually find them all. We have a copy of their marriage certificate, he signed, she 'X'd.
We also have a photo of one of James and Hannah's sons Golden Wedding Anniversary, with 20+ people in it, and then found someone who had a list of who every single person was. Will post that another day :)
Victoria
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James Scott Christie and Hannah Tyley were my great great great grandparents.
Is anyone still on this thread?