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Title: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 18 December 08 18:08 GMT (UK)
Edward Straughan possibly born March qtr Alnwick 1839.
Shown 1881 census as age 39 born Rock, Northumberland which is in the Alnwick registration district.

In that census he is living at Palmers Ville, Longbenton I would be interested to see also if he is living in susbsequent census in the same area.

Alan NZ
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1941 census
Post by: excel on Thursday 18 December 08 18:23 GMT (UK)
1841 the family were living at Embleton, Northumberland.
1851 father now a publican and family living on Holy Island.
1861 Edward was a joiner and living at Alnmouth, Northumberland. Says he was born Holy Island.
1891    " in Longbenton
If you would like any more details please let me know.
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 18 December 08 19:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, would be interested in knowing what age/s Edward is quoted as. in 1881 he is shown as 39 which makes him born 1842+- a year and the  only likely birth I have found is the quoted one in March qtr of 1839.

Could you also advise of parents names and reported ages. Is the name of the premises he is a publican listed? Whilst most of the subsequent generations worked in the mines one of his grandsons was also a publican at eh Six Mile Bridge Inn in the 60s'

Alan NZ
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: excel on Thursday 18 December 08 19:38 GMT (UK)
From 1851 census:
Parents Robert Straughan, 54, born Wooler, Northumberland and Eleanor, 51 born Bolton, Northumberland.
Not sure if this is the Inn name as the writing is unclear but the address begins Mary Gate ----- -------. I googled mary gate, holy island and there is a ship inn in that area but don't know if that would be the name in 1851.
Edward's birth year is given as 1839 in other census returns.

1891 he was still in Palmersville, Longbenton. Can't see him in 1901.
If there is anything else I will do it tomorrow.
 
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: percy porter on Thursday 18 December 08 19:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help, I am truely gratefull if we are on the right track then that will make a big difference.

Alan
NZ
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 18 December 08 19:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Alan,

It was the Iron Rails Public House in Mary Gate in 1851.  There's a mention of it in this article about the Ship Inn: http://theshipinn.blogspot.com/2008/03/ducks-are-quackers-about-ship.html

1851 HO107/2421 Folio 51 Page 23
Mary Gate Iron Rails, Holy Island, Northumberland
STRAUGHAN
Robert        head m 54  Publican   Wooler  Northumberland
Eleanor       wife  m 51                Bolton         "
George        son   s 21  Tailor
Mary Ann     dau  s 16
Charles        son     14  Scholar
Edward           "      12      "
John               "      10      "
Isabella        dau      8      "
Margaret Cromarty visitor   2

all children born Rock, Northumberland


Barbara
   
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 18 December 08 20:01 GMT (UK)
1841 details:

HO107/819/15 Folio 3 Page 1
Rock, Embleton, Northumberland

Robert  STRAUGHAN  42  Ag. Lab
Eleanor          "          40
George          "          12
James            "          10
Thomas          "          7
Mary Ann        "          6
Charles          "          4
Edward           "          2
John Gollen     "          8 months
Fortune           "        17  F. S.  (female servant)
   
all born in Northumberland
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 18 December 08 20:13 GMT (UK)
In 1861 Robert and family are living next door to the Swan Inn and not at the Iron Rails inn (someone else living there in 1861)

1861 RG9/3884 Folio 37 Page 3
Marygate, Holy Island
Robert Straughan  head m    65 Farmer of 20 Acres   Wooler
Eleanor Straughan wife  m    61                      Eglingham
Mary Ann Wilson    dau  wid 26 Grocer          Embleton
John Straughan        son    s   20 Ag Lab             "
Alexander Wilson grandson      3  Scholar        Holy Island


Barbara
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Michael Dixon on Friday 19 December 08 15:13 GMT (UK)
Pub Trivia......

Pubs/Inns on Holy Island.

Parson and White Trade Directory, 1827 lists the following

Anchor, Britannia, Crown & Thistle, Plough, Red Lion, Ship, Swan

( Source web site      communities.northumberland.gov.uk    )

Michael Dixon
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: percy porter on Friday 19 December 08 20:46 GMT (UK)
A big thank you to all who have contributed, it is rather appropriate to have got this information at this time as Robert Straughans Great Great Grandson Robert Straughan is over here from Newcastle and is spending Xmas and New Year with us.

He is over the moon with the information you have supplied

Thanks heaps

Robert Straughan and Alan NZ
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 19 December 08 20:54 GMT (UK)
Glad to help, do you need the other census or do you already have those?

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: patrexjax on Friday 19 December 08 22:41 GMT (UK)
Hello! Do you have any ancestors buried at Longbenton Cemetery? I have a set of fiche with those burials. If you would like any look ups, don't hesitate to ask!  :)  Happy Christmas!  Pat
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: percy porter on Saturday 20 December 08 00:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks Barbara, I probably would like other lookups but with Xmas and the newyear and a host of family/friends from England, Germany and Korea I am a bit "otherwise engaged" as you can imagine.

Pat.....I am not sure if any are interened at Longbenton, if you have an alphabetical list and there are any Straughans or Kirtleys there I would certainly be interested.

Again thanks to all

Alan NZ
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: patrexjax on Saturday 20 December 08 01:47 GMT (UK)
Hello Alan, The Longbenton fiche I have has MANY births listed; HOWEVER, I could find only one death: William Straughan son of George & Elizabeth his wife (nee: Bell) died 5 years 4 months August 7, 1806.  For Kirtley - a similar situation: only found two deaths: William Kirtley of Benton d. 25 May 1793 and Elizabeth WEEMS of East Benton Colliery d. April 8, 1799 age 5 years - d. of Thomas Weems and his wife (late) Mary Kirtley...Do any of these seem to have a connection?  I could pursue the births if you think this time frame could be of help.  Happy Christmas  ;D  Pat
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: danmacbet on Saturday 20 December 08 19:07 GMT (UK)
Greetings, I am a new member of this forum as it was brought to my attention by a fellow member of this forum....  thank you Michael Dixon.  I would like to request that Pat (patrexjax), a poster on this forum, please return to the Longbenton burial fiche and look for further STRAUGHAN burial entries indexed under the surname: STRACHAN/STRAFFIN/STRAFFAN/STRAFFEN all possible variant forms of STRAUGHAN. I am a descendant of George STRAUGHAN, b/b 1809 Longbenton, NBL the brother of the referenced William STRAUGHAN, s/o George & Elizabeth STRAUGHAN (nee BELL), who was buried Longbenton, 7 August 1806. I would like to get in contact with anyone who is researching this particular STRAUGHAN ancestry or one of it's branches.  Bette McIntosh (USA) 
 
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 21 December 08 04:42 GMT (UK)
Hello Bette, Welcome to Rootschat!  ;D  Sorry for the delay in responding, but I was out doing some holiday preparations.  In reference to your STRAUGHAN request - The fiche I have only covers Baptisms, marriages and Burials at Longbenton from 1723-1812..... :'(   However, just for the record, your George's christening is listed as 20 Aug 1809 and that he was the third son of George and Elizabeth. George's occupation was "bank man" and he was a native of Wallsend; his wife, Elizabeth (nee: Bell) is listed as a native of Horton. I do also have PRE-1851 MI's for LongBenton and there are NO STRAUGHANs or variants listed in that time frame...  I am so sorry that my information will not seem to help you at this point in time.  If any of my references may assist you in the future, please so not hesitate to contact me. May I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a happy holiday season. Pat
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Green-Bowler on Wednesday 31 December 08 09:44 GMT (UK)
Hello Percy,
I have Edward Straughan in my tree, b. Jan 1778 in Ancroft, Northumberland, England. Children Barbara, Elizabeth, Margaret, Edward, William, Thomasin.

If you pm me with your email addy I will send you all I have on my Straughan's and we can compare trees.

bowler
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Green-Bowler on Friday 18 April 14 19:30 BST (UK)
Hello Alan, (Percy), If your still on rootschat Edward Straughan was my 3xgrandfather. get in touch with me and we can cpmpare..


Edward Straughan possibly born March qtr Alnwick 1839.
Shown 1881 census as age 39 born Rock, Northumberland which is in the Alnwick registration district.

In that census he is living at Palmers Ville, Longbenton I would be interested to see also if he is living in susbsequent census in the same area.

Alan NZ
Title: Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
Post by: Dee_000 on Monday 02 October 17 21:27 BST (UK)
I have Edward Straughan in my family tree but I'm not sure of my details. My grandfather Edward Straughan was born c1842 in Rock(?), my grandmother was born in Palmersville.  But I have a death date of 1898, my grandmother was born in 1900 and was the youngest child

I'd be really interested to see what you have as I don't have a great deal to be honest

Many thanks

D