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Title: Morris, Andrew, Carlie (Carley) 1863
Post by: warboys on Thursday 18 December 08 13:15 GMT (UK)

Hi, I am looking for an Andrew Morris who was in Whithorn Wigtownshire about 1862/3. His occupation was given as a gamekeeper.

He had an illegitimate son by Sarah Carly (or Carlie) in Whithorn on the 15th March 1863. For some reason I seem to be unable to find Andrew Morris's birth, marriage or death on any records in Dumfries and Galloway.
Can anyone help.

Thanks

Title: Re: Morris, Andrew, Carlie (Carley) 1863
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 18 December 08 14:19 GMT (UK)

Hi

As a gamekeeper - he may have moved around, and not just in Scotland

You would need to check all Andrew Morris entries on the 1861 census who were old enough to have fathered a child in 1863 to see if any were gamekeepers

How about this 1861 entry?

Andrew Morris 23 gamekeepers assistant b Longforgan Perthshire who coincidentally was living in Whithorn in 1861 at (3) Gamekeeper's Cottage

Whithorn; ED: 1; Page:  4; Line: 12

 

Title: Re: Morris, Andrew, Carlie (Carley) 1863
Post by: warboys on Thursday 18 December 08 15:11 GMT (UK)

Thank you very much for your reply & help.
We were stuck, our family tree could go no further back because we couldn't find any details on this person. Now we can make more inquiries.

Thanks again

Title: Re: Morris, Andrew, Carlie (Carley) 1863
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 18 December 08 18:41 GMT (UK)

This is the 1851 entry for Longforgan - all b Perthshire.  Children from Mary onwards b Langforgan

John Morris 42  labourer b Errol 
Elisabeth   45  b Inchture
Janet   16   b Inchture
Mary  15 
Andrew   13 
Robert 11 
Elisabeth  7 
William  4 
Isabell  2
Longforgan; ED: 1; Page:  4; Line: 16

No luck with an 1871/1881 entry

From the IGI at www.familysearch.org

ANDREW MORRIS   Birth:  02 DEC 1837   Christening:  17 DEC 1837   Longforgan, Perth
Father:  JOHN MORRIS    Mother:  ELIZABETH ANDERSON 

JOHN MORRIS   Spouse:  ELISABETH ANDERSON   
Marriage:  11 DEC 1833   Inchture, Perth
 

Title: Re: Morris, Andrew, Carlie (Carley) 1863
Post by: warboys on Thursday 18 December 08 19:56 GMT (UK)

Thanks again, our family tree has suddenly moved 200 miles further North that we ever expected !
Final questions, do you have an address in Longforgan where they all lived ?
When Andrew Morris lived at Whithorn did anyone else reside with him ?

Cheers, Bob

Title: Re: Morris, Andrew, Carlie (Carley) 1863
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 18 December 08 19:59 GMT (UK)

Hi

The 1851 address was just Longforgan village

In 1861 he was living with the gamekeeper Donald Tolmie - no other residents