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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: doctorbob on Tuesday 16 December 08 10:36 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
My gt grandfather's family moved from Donaghadee, Co. Down at some point.
In 1861 they were at:
?Millbey/Willbay House, Plymouth
M.A. Hawkins Head Mar 51 Dressmaker b Ireland
Hugh Hawkins son 18 Baker Confectioner b Ireland
William son 30 Royal Navy b Ireland
Hugh is in fact Hugo Francis, but he used Francis as his known name. He also joined the RN and his service record shows his first ship 1871. He married Elizabeth Ann Crabb (see other entry) in 1862.
Does anyone know of this family? (Long shot, but if so, we could be related).
I would like to find my gt gt grandfather ... I am assuming that MA Hwakins was quite likely Margaret. Mary would be unlikely given the son's name of William. I would guess that perhaps the father was also William in the long standing tradition of naming first son ...
I would also like to trace son William, my gt uncle, as I have a photograph of him in his Sailor's uniform, from a newspaper article in 1945 when my father received his DSC.
Francis and wife settled in Portsea, and Elizabeth was known as Eliza. Their daughter Kate was my grandmother, who married Charles Fletcher.
It might be significant that their first child in Portsea, Francis, was born in 1871 about the time Hugo signed up.
TIA
Rob
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did you look in
http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Plymouth/Plymouth.htm
????
happy New YEAR
foxy
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Hi
Found this in 1871.... Not sure about them as you make no mention of a daughter but thought I would post just in case;
Stoke Damerel, Devon
41 Charlotte Str
William HAWKINS head mar 62 Naval pensioner b Ireland
Mary Ann Hawkins wife 60 b Ireland
Anna M Hawkins dau unm 29 milliner b Ireland
the daughter's occupation seems to fit with MA Hawkins in 1861 being a dressmaker and William , the dad is a Naval pensioner ..which seems to fit with Hugh and William being in the RN too.
Can't seem to find Anna in 1861
In 1891 The above mary Ann Hawkins is with her daughter and son-in-law in Beer ferris Devon
William H Taylor head mar 55 retired metropolitan police b Tiverton
Anna M wife 51 b Ireland
Mary Ann HAWKINS wid mother-in-law 81 b Ireland
deb
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hi again
1881
Anna M Taylor is a visitor in the home of Thomas (master French Polisher) and sarah Chambers in Oxford street.
Anna M Taylor visitor, mar wife of metropolitan Police Constable b DONAGHADIE , Coy DOWN IRELAND
deb :)
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1881
Stoke Damerel
Albert rd
William Hawking head mar 68 Greenwich Pensioner b Ireland blind, for a few years
Mary wife mar 70 b Ireland
deb
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Hi Deb
Cannot find the 1881 entry for Ann M in London ... can you point me to this record please.
I am trying to find any children of Anna and William Taylor as they are close relatives of mine!
Thanks,
Rob
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Hi Rob
Here's the ref;
RG11/2197 71 1
she is transcribed under TAYOR!
Oxford st ..in Plymouth ...sorry I should have typed more detail :-\ :-[
deb :)
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Many thanks Deb, I did find it eventually. Hidden away eh?
William is in "The Hamoaze" in Plymouth. This is the building which became
Admiralty House in 1935.
I can't find any children of this marriage ...
Anyone else?
Rob
PS Still trying to link my Benjamin Crabb into the Crabb lines ... hmmm ...tricky this one.
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Some certs to get now but I have followed this trail ...
Looking for William Henry's parents (he married Anna Matlida Hawkins).
I find William and Sarah in Tiverton - he's a shopkeeper/grocer - follow through census data and eventually we find
them until 1861, 1871 is a mystery (anyone???), but then ...
In 1881 Sarah is a widow with grandson Bertie George 8yrs - born when Will+Anna married !!! Fits
In 1881 We find Will on duty, Anna (TAYOR!!) visiting friends, the Chambers. Head is a Master French Polisher
We find Bertie G married Mary Louise Offer 1896 in Bristol, and in 1901 he's there with young family and his
occupation is FRENCH POLISHER.
Some nice circumstantial evidence to now follow up with marriage and birth certs. Fingers crossed as this has been a dead end for a while.
Rob
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Oh well, this one did not pan out. Parents were from the weavering Taylor branch in Tiverton, not the shopkeeping lot. Some you win some you lose.
Rob
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Hi Rob
There is a family of Taylors living in Tiverton
Parents are John and Elizabeth. John's occupation is butcher/farmer. They have quite a few children one of them being William who is 7 in 1841 and 16 in 1851.
I think the best bet would be to order Anna Matilda Hawkins marriage cert. At least then you would be sure of William Henry Taylor's father.
William Henry Taylor = Anna Matilda Hawkins
sept q 1872
Stoke Damerel, Devon
vol 5b
pg 570
deb
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Thanks Deb,
I already have it and Will Taylors dad was William Taylor, deceased (in 1872).
So, my hit list of Tiverton Taylors was those with a William as well (the one I went for was William and Sarah, the shopkeepers).
William Hawkins was Petty Officer, RN by then. Interesting that when he first came from Ireland he was a Ship's Carpenter.
Anna was 31 and WIlliam 36 when they married - maybe she did not have children.
Rob