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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent Lookup Requests => Kent => England => Kent Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: nessieinspain on Sunday 14 December 08 14:44 GMT (UK)
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Hello and a very Merry Xmas to you all.
I am trying to find the birth of James Knight according to the 1881 census a Butcher by trade born c.1855 Plumstead Kent.
He married Edith Hooker born c.1857 in Stopham Sussex. They married in Hove, Sussex on 26/03/1876.
I have found Ediths ancestors butI am stuck on James. They had a son James Henry Knight born 1880 Brighton.
I have found a Henry Knight living in Plumstead in 1851 with a son James born c.1853 but can't be sure as I don't have the names of any of James' siblings...if he had any..
Any help greatly appreciated
Emma in Spain
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Who does James state as his father(name and occupation) on his marriage cert?
I see you have an exact date - so looks like you have thecert.
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Sorry found the marriage on the IGI but no further details of James :'(
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It would be worth getting the marriage cert then - to help ensure that you find the right JAmes on censuses before his marriage.
I would iamgine that a name like James Knight could have several possibiliites
As you have said yourself, you have found one that looks possible, but have no info to check against. If you have James dad's name and occ from his marriage cert, that would rule in or out the one you found.
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Plumstead was in the Lewisham Regn District until 1868 ... so how about this chap ? (there are others in Greenwich & Dartford, but this seems right)
James Knight
4Q (Dec) 1853
Lewisham
Volume 1d
Page 583
As Liz says, if you have the marriage Cert, can you quote Fathers name & occupation - oh, and any witnesses ?
whoops, just seen your response ...
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Thank you,
I am a bit loathe to spend money on this one as it is for my sister in laws Mum & I have already spent a fortune doing our tree. I have managed to get Edith Crumpler's family back to 1822 George Crumpler c.1822 Harbridge Hampshire so I will get in touch with them first before forking out anything. As we all know it can be an expensive hobby lol
Emma in Spain
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Think this will sort it ...
James with folks - and already a butcher ..
1871 - RG10/783; Folio: 7; Page: 8; - Woolwich St Mary (Arsenal area)
29, Hare Street
Henry Knight 45 Head Cheesemonger Lambeth
Eliza Knight 42 Wife Berks, Hagbourne
Joseph Knight 19 son Shopman Woolwich
James Knight 17 son Butcher Plumstead
Emma Knight 10 dau Woolwich
Arthur Knight 7 son do
Alice Knight 5 dau do
Leonard Knight 3 son do
Annie Stade 20 Servant Berks, Hagbourne
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Blimey Thank you! I thought that was it for this line!
I was just putting up Xmas decorations & came back to an early present! ;D
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Looking at the 4 Elizas in Hagbourne in the 1841 Census (Day, Dearlove, Grimshaw & Shepherd)
this might be the marriage ..
Marriages Sep 1850
Knight Henry St. Geo Southk v4 p515 to Shepherd Eliza
They were in Woolwich in 1851, no kids yet ....
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1st birth Joseph is in 1852 which would make that marriage about right time ;)
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Can you see them in 1861 Newf? Got me baffled ......
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no, gave up on 1861 Liz - might be one of the missing PIECES shown in Ancestry ?
Pieces from RG9 where all parishes are missing (we do not have ANY records for these pieces):
145 407 903 1234 4015 4131 4196 4344
219 601 1039 3388 4022 4137 4291 4389
Record Summary
RG 9/407
Scope and content Registration Sub-District 6 Woolwich Arsenal Parish: Woolwich
Covering dates 1861
Availability Open Document, Open Description, Closed For 100 years
Note Wanting
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Hi NEWF, what does the above actually mean? Are the records lost?
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yes :(
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But are they? :o
I have a recollection of viewing at least part of the missing pieces on film about 20 years ago at what was then called the Greenwich Local History Library at Woodlands - I copied down details of someone in Hare Street part of Woolwich that appears on a piece that Ancestry now says in lost. Unfortunately I now live in France and can't get to the Greenwich Heritage Centre to verify this :-\
Perhaps someone who lives nearer to do a check for everyone
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Ancestry is just quoting the National Archives note which says 'Wanting' .... for PIECE 407 W. Arsenal.
But it would be most excellent if it was in that Greenwich Libray :)