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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: king william on Wednesday 10 December 08 02:03 GMT (UK)
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I have John and Sarah Harris who emigrated from the Stratford-upon-Avon area about 1873, they settled at Norsewood although some of their grandchildren seem to be centred at Masterton.
John died in Dannevirke on 12/2/1929 and is buried in Norsewood - Sarah died in Norsewood on 23/1/1915 aged 71.
I have a photo of their headstone and it does not state how many children they had.
When they came they had 4 children,
Hannah Maria Perkins Harris born about 1864
William Harris born about 1867
David Harris born about 1870
Elizabeth Ellen Harris born in 1872.
Can anyone see any more children for John and Sarah.
One more question - does anyone know on what ship they emigrated from England. I really would love that question answered if possible.
Robin
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Either of the parents death certificates would tell you how many children they had and ages.
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I have actually sent for John's death certificate and am hoping it will not be too long, but am aware that it would probably show his living children, I was aware that if any more had been born and had died since, they may not show.
I also have another reason for trying to fast track this - I am doing this history for a very good friend and I was trying to tie up loose ends and present it to her for Christmas.
It is another reason I was hoping that somewhere out there was the information about which ship they came on, I have no clue how to find out that information.
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Hi Robin
I was browsing Paperspast and found an entry for a Mr and Mrs Harris in the Evening Post arriving in the Port of Wellington on June 23rd 1876 on the ship Taupo.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
It's a possibility.
Regards
lil
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Many thanks for this site - I have put it on "favourites" - I did not know it existed
Robin
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lil growler,
Is there any way of finding any further info about the Mr and Mrs Harris who arrived on the Taupo in 1876, I need to know if it was John and Sarah Harris and their 4 children. I just cannot find them,
Robin
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Hi Robin
You could try contacting the Petone Settlers Museum http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Council-Facilities/Museums--Galleries/Petone-Settlers-Museum/Passenger-Database/ Although I looked on their database I didn't find an entry for the Harris's but I don't think the database is complete. Also you could inquire at the Wellington Library http://www.wcl.govt.nz/
Keep in mind though that they moight not have entered through the Port of Wellington. I was just browsing that area as it was the closest to where they settled.
Regards
lil
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Thanks for all suggestions, I have not found the Harris family yet but have read all about the Vogel scheme and realise that the family probably came over in 1874 when the scheme advertised for married agricultural workers - John Harris was an agricultural labourer in Weston Subedge, Glos.
They probably came through the port of Napier.
I found on Papers Past an ad. for Scotland asking for people to emigrate to NZ, would love to see one advertising in England, I could print it off and put in the history album.
Thanks for all the help,
Robin
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Is there any way of finding any further info about the Mr and Mrs Harris who arrived on the Taupo in 1876, I need to know if it was John and Sarah Harris and their 4 children. I just cannot find them,
Hi Robin
It seems that this vessel "Taupo", was in fact a steamer, just working in NZ coastal waters - (so it wouldn't be the ship that transported your Harris family from England).
Sorry, haven't been able to find anything on passenger lists, either.
From John's death cert. ("Years in NZ"), you may of course get another clue as to when the family arrived here ?
And as John appears to have had a very long life, it might be worth checking in the area in which he lived, to see if records exist for early pioneers ... perhaps a (local) newspaper published an obituary ?
Lu
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Hi again Robin
Meant to say that I really love your idea of your Christmas gift to your friend. (Perhaps she'll get hooked on genealogy too) ? :)
I found on Papers Past an ad. for Scotland asking for people to emigrate to NZ, would love to see one advertising in England, I could print it off and put in the history album.
You can find some emigration posters on the following site. >>
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/siteindex.htm
Scroll down to "Navigate To" >> then to"Emigration Posters".
(Actually there's lots of interesting info here ... accounts of what conditions were like aboard the emigrant ships etc. etc. ... so even if you can't yet locate the ship on which the Harris's arrived, you can still probably "paint a picture" of the era).
Good luck ... I'm sure your friend will love her "pressie". ;)
Lu
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Hi Robin
There is always a possibility that that the Taupo or any other Steamer may have transferred the Harris's from another port, as shows on here http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/unionnz.html As you will know our ancestors can end up in completely different places from the area they arrived. Just to keep us on our toes ;D
Regards
lil
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:)Hi,
I Live in Masterton Nz and know that there are Harris' living here. Perhaps you could get the NZ Masterton phone book on line and look them up.
Cheers Kuri ;D
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In reply to all of you - I certainly found the immigration posters and what a co-incidence, one of them was advertising the "British King" which was the very ship one of my friend's ancestors came out on so it was so appropriate, I printed that one out so fast.
I will try the White Pages and look for Harris in Masterton, could strike gold there.
I am still awaiting the death certificate so will probably get more info from that.
Thanks so much to you all, Happy Christmas, a bit of a gloomy day here, the lovely shop I work in has been hit on Thursday night by a low-life arsonist, one third burnt to ashes, they are going to be up and running again they say, but when a family business gets hit like this it is so unfair, I am not even part of the family but have worked for them for 8 years and they are like family.
Robin
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Hi Robin
Sad news :( about the business you work for, thankfully everyone is okay and one can hope that there still maybe some joy in Christmas for you all.
lil
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Hi, Thanks for your thought about the arsonist, presumably it is the same one has now struck a kindy 3 nights later and within just a few kilometres from the shop I work in, we are getting a temporary shop in tomorrow until the old shop is rebuilt, so no job loss thank goodness.
I have now received the death certificate printout for John Harris, he had more children than I realised.
Someone on this site kindly gave me his first 4 children in an 1871 census, his eldest daughter Hannah predeceased him, she died in 1927, he died in February 1929 and is buried in Norsewood.
On the death printout it gives his living issue as Male 63 (William), Male 60 (David), Female 58, (Elizabeth Ellen), Male 55, Female 52, Female 44.
That makes 7 children with the death of Hannah in 1927. That is 3 children I have no names for.
I will try to phone a few Harris's of Masterton and try my luck there. I have given up on trying to find the ship they came on although on the printout it gives time in NZ as 55 years which takes it to about 1874 which was when the Vogel scheme allowed ag. labs. to travel for free to this land of milk and honey. It also gives John's occupation as Retired farmer.
If anyone has any ideas about the other children of John and Sarah Harris of Norsewood it would be very gratefully received.
Robin
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Hi, Robin.
I have John HARRIS (who married Sarah PERKINS) recorded as John HARRIS (Snr), suggesting that there is also a John HARRIS (Jnr).
I have a John HARRIS (b. abt 1875), m. Clara Bertha FISCHER (dau. of Friedrich August FISCHER and his wife, Amalia Frederica (surname unknown), who emig. from Hamburg, Germany, 16 Dec 1874, aboard "Fritz Reuter" arriving Napier, NZ, on 17 Mar 1875). I assume, but cannot prove, that this is John HARRIS (Jnr) as this matches with the son's age on the death cert. John and Clara HARRIS had a son, Ivan Ernest HARRIS b. abt 1915, d. 13 Jun 1941, Egypt (WWII).
There is an Archie HARRIS at Makotuku School (Bush Advocate, 04 Dec 1888). Makotuku is near(ish) to Norsewood, but I have nothing to confirm he is related.
Bush Advocate, Sat 22 Dec 1888
Marriage
O'HARA - HARRIS : On Dec 19, at the office and before the Registrar, Norsewood, David, third son of Mr Henry O'HARA of Ballinacard, County Antrim, Ireland to Elizabeth Ellen, second daughter of John HARRIS, Ngamoko, Norsewood.
Pip.
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Hi Robin,
I have just stumbled on your post about the Harris Family. Given that it was some time ago, you may well have found the information you were looking for. If not, I can help. I have traced the Harris family back to the late 1600s.
Regards
Bev