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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: pete edwards on Monday 08 December 08 23:10 GMT (UK)
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In view of the success of the Canadian rootschatters board :), I would like to try the same thing here in Shropshire, anybody back me :)
Pete :)
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I'm in Shropshire but none of my research is in Shropshire as spouse and I are both the first of our families to live in this beautiful place.
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Hi Pete,
I'll join you :)
My maternal lines are in Shropshire so count me in.
Chris
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Hi Pete:
Could I join your chat group? My greatgreatgrandparents were born in Shorpshire. I have two Hotchkiss lines that come from there.
Cheers
Anne
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I'm in Shropshire but none of my research is in Shropshire as spouse and I are both the first of our families to live in this beautiful place.
Are you sure, Wotty?
Lived in Shropshire for 17 years and thought I was a "first" but then found a gggrandmother came from there!
... and Anne, we could be related but don't know how to prove the link. Are your Hotchkiss from Madeley? I have a Brookes connection with the only current possibility yet found, linked to a Hotchkiss family.
So, of course, count me in.
Just remembered, follwing that link was one of last year's resolutions, but haven't yet found a way to be sure :-\
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Me too, Pete!! :D
My paternal grandmother came from Oulton near Stone in Staffs but her ancestry is definetly Shropshire - Moreton Say area.
Trouble is, their surname was Stubbs - which seems to be one of the most common in that area! :'(
Jill
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Well, you never know. Maybe some ancestral memory is why I feel at home in Shropshire!
Wotty
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Count me in too!!!!
I was born and bred in Shrewsbury, still living here, and my Betton's were from Worthen.
:D
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And we were going to have a mini-mini meet at the Boot in Whittington, Jan :)
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Yes we were Gadget....another time perhaps ;)
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I'm not in Shropshire but my Plimmers, Rogers and Tiptons are from there :)
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I'm in Shropshire, too. Sign me up, too.
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Nice to "see" you again Shropshire Lass ;)
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I'm very tied up with looking after elderly parents at the moment so I don't get much free time. My research has stopped for now but I keep looking in to RC for the good company!
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My dad and his brothers grew up in Wellington and still have relatives in that area, count me in.
Crystal
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My direct ancestors BROOME, MORRELL, POWELL and a few others are from Dawley.
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I have Shropshire ancestors too, from the Wellington area so can I join in? :)
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And we were going to have a mini-mini meet at the Boot in Whittington, Jan :)
Tell me when Gadget :) :) ;) BN
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Hi,
New to this but am researching Griffiths from Gobowen Shropshire. I'm not in UK....can I join?
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:) :) :) :) :)
Welcome here and to Rootschat.
I've got Griffiths from Whittington (the parish contained Gobowen) and St Martins. What are your names?
Gadget
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Hi,
I have George Edward Griffiths b. 1805 Daywell. He joined the Grenadier Guards in Manchester and eventually ended up in Croydon (where the majority of my family is). I found a George Edward born to Edward and Ann Griffiths on Ancestry.co.uk.
Common names in my tree are (probably like everyone else around that time) are Edward, George, William, and Johns.
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
I'll have to go looking in my Griffiths file - Daywell does crop up. Mine are descended from a Samuel.
Gadget
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Thanks. The last confirmed documentation I have is a marriage certificate for George Edward (second marriage) to a Mary Beach in Croydon in 1860. I cannot locate his first marriage record which was to a Harriett Hooker from Shere, UK. On the certificate he lists his father as Edward - Labourer. It doesn't mention that the father is deceased but I cannot find anything on Edward from 1841 living in Daywell.
I did find an Edward Griffiths, b. Daywell, abt 1769.
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Does anyone have any Shropshire Stubbs, Simon, Ikin or Llewellin?
Jill
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The only Salop one that I had owned what is now the Jackfield Tile Museum near Ironbridge. :)
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Count me in too. I have COLLINS in Bishops Castle. Lots of them ;D :D
Red :)
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Count me in, my mother's family came from Dawley
Freda
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Happy New Year to all Shropshire RCs!
Good family hunting in 2009, everyone.
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Happy New Year to one and all - lets hope 2009 will be an improvement on 2008 ???
Does anyone have any Garbett's ......... my maternal g.grandfather was Benjamin Garbett b. 1842 Dawley Green ........... any connections out there? :-\
Polly
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I may have found a marriage in my Griffiths tree.
Robert Griffiths m. Mary Lockley Dec 1765 Daywell, Whittington. Another one I'm trying to confirm is Edward Griffiths (gson of Robert) married to Elizabeth Jones, Whittington about 1820.
How does one go about verifying the info to see if I'm on the right track.
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Elizabeth Jones
Spouse Edward Griffiths
Marriage 27TH Sep 1818
Plemonstall Cheshire
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1841 Census Whittington Shropshire
edward griffiths aged 75
edward " " 45
elizabeth " 45
HOPE THIS HELPS
SYLVIA
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Thanks. Yes it does help alot. It opens up a Cheshire link. I found an Ann Roberts and her son Alfred living with an Edward and Elizabeth in Whittington. I believe she was recently widowed. Her son was born in Cheshire.
Thanks again.
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Peter, considering I "told you off" for calling t he people from S.Shropshire upper whammers- well you said that`s what people from S/bury call them- will you let me join in with other Shropshire chatters PLEASE? My paternal grandmother came from the leadmining area and went into service in Manchester where she married . Sadly she died in M/C but along came WW2 and I was lucky enough to be evacuated with her sister. I have done a lot of ancestor chasing and visit regularly. Does that make me eligible?
You will gather that I am quite an old lady and if you don`t let me join I will have to start my own chat-line- Grumpy Old Women. Viktoria
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May I join in please.
I have relatives (close family) living in South Shropshire and near Shrewsbury and a gr gr gr grandfather (James Nevitt) who was born in
Sherrington in the early1800s. (His father was a John Nevitt who hailed from somewhere - not known as yet):(
Nell
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Does anyone have any Shropshire Stubbs, Simon, Ikin or Llewellin?
Jill
Hi Jill
I think we were in contact about our SIMON lines some time ago....yours were from Shropshire, mine were from Montgomeryshire :'( If only we could go back far enough to see if there is indeed a connection.
Jan
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Hi Jan,
Have you managed to get any further with your Simons?
I'm still well and truly stuck with my Mary Simon who gave birth to Elizabeth in 1816 in Moreton Say. I have a couple of theories as to her identity but nothing - as yet - that's verifiable.
One day....
Jill
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Hi Jill
No, I haven't got any further back......actually, I've been concentrating more on one of my JONES lines because I've just made contact with a 3rd cousin.
I'm still stuck at my GGG Grandparents, John and Elizabeth Simon who were both from Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire so I think a trip to the NLW in Aberystwyth is necessary!!!
OOops!!! Sorry to hijack a Shropshire thread :-[ :D
Jan
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Jan
It's all interesting how there seems to be a Shropshire/Montgomeryshire/Denbighshire/Staffordshire link with many of us. (Those Marches)
I expect that many of us are related if we go back far enough :)
Gadget
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I expect that many of us are related if we go back far enough
of course we are....Mum ;)
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It's my birthday soon, sweetie - best start saving up ;D
There's a nice restautrant in Willow Street, Oswestry that I found last last year 8)
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and, if we're going to ape the Canadian thread, how do people pronounce Shrewsbury ~
Shrewsbury
Shrowsbury
Showsbury
Shoesbury
and is the Dingle still there - we had lots of picnics and happy times there when I was little :)
Gadget
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I'm saving well for your pressie....looking forward to seeing you in Willow Street ;)
As far as the pronunciation goes.....
I say "Shroosbury" coz I'm not posh ;D but some folk do say "Shrowsbury" (with a plum in their mouth ;D)
I'm only kidding, and don't mean to offend anyone, but the majority of us Shropshire people do pronounce it the common way :D
The Dingle is still there, and always full of beautfiful flowers. I spend a lot of time walking round there during the summer months, I love it.
For those of you who are not familiar with Shrewsbury type "The Dingle Shrewsbury" in your search engine images, and you will find so many gorgeous photos on the net.
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We weren't even as posh as you, Jan. We said Shoesbury ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Actually, I've just re-read my post and I've made a typing error!!! I should have put "Shoosbury" (or Shoesbury)....so I pronounce it the same as you ;D ;D
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That's my girl :)
I've just been thinking of my Shropshire roots - apart from the ancient one who built the bridge in Shrewsbury (Dad's side) in AD 600 or summat - my Grandad was born in the Workhouse at Morda in 1866 andmy Mum died in Shrewsbury Hospital 10 years ago come March :'( :'( :'(
My lovely Mum - she hated being Welsh (with all her Scottish ancestors) - when she wanted to be posh, she always said that she was born in Shropshire ;D :)
:)
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My parents, grand parents, great grandparents, and most of my cousins are all Welsh.......me? I was born in Shrewsbury, Shropshire so class myself as 100% English ;D ;D
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...and I forgot to mention that I have lived in Shrewsbury for 41 years, so I'm definitely English, and not a bit of Welsh in me ;D ;D ;D
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and I left the borders 45 years ago but went back regularly and I'm about 60% Welsh - I was born 1/2 mile into Wales* ;D ;D ;D
*PS - on the Shropshire side of Offa's Dyke :o
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I was born about 15 miles from the Welsh border......suppose I could say that I'm about 2% Welsh ;D Although, apart from two Shropshire lines, my family tree consists of ALL Montgomeryshire lines >:(
I love Shropshire :D
OOops!! Meant to say 1 Shropshire line and 1 Cheshire line :-[
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Nothing wrong with Montgomeryshire lines, Jan :)
My great great Grandmother (Margaret Ellis) came from Llangynog and then there are the Joneses and the Sandlands and ........................... :)
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Don't mention the Joneses :-\ I was born one of 'em!
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Thought I didn't have any. Then I found that two of my great grandmothers were Jones and then it went on and on and on and.............................. some of them became ap eventually ;D ;D ;D ;D
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....and while I'm reminiscing ..
Oswestry was always pronounced 'ozustree' and Gobowen 'gubowen' .................
and the Bailey Head in Oswestry on a Wednesday with all the farmers in their green or tan rough tweed suits and leather spats or half leggings or whatever they were called and spitting out chewing tobacco ;D
and the Odeon ? (you queued by the side of Astons furniture shop) - saw Elvis in Blue Hawaii and Cliff in Summer Holiday there .
think I'd best go now before i spill some beans ::) ::) ::)
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I have two direct lines from Shropshire arising from the Marriage of a Charles Lea and an Elizabeth Griffith in Whitchurch in 1690.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Ratlinghope is pronounced "Ratchup"thereabouts and Attingham Park is in the Borough of Atcham-just goes to show how things get changed over the years.Viktoria
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Hello W.R. do you have any children of Charles & Elizabeth Lea? I'm doing a look up for a Frances Lea born Wrexham 1709. Parents Charles & Elizabeth born Shropshire. A long shot :P but you never know :-\
Paul
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I am not aware as yet of any of the children of Charles and Elizabeth Lea being born in Wrexham.I found the following children born in Whitchurch believed to be of Charles and Elizabeth;
John Baptised October 3rd 1691.
"Sam" Baptised April 14th 1694.
Thomas Baptised April 14th 1694.
Charles Baptised November 29th 1702.
Elizabeth Baptised August 12th 1705.
Of course whilst I have found these it does not rule out any others.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Hi there,
I have just come across a rellie who married into
Page-crofts from Shrewsbury Shropshire. Iam just now trying to find if there is any of the family still living there.
Mariac
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Hi,
My ancesters (Griffiths) born about 1790's are listed in the Districts of Daywell, Gobowen, or Whittington. When researching deaths and marriages, they seem to be turning up in the District Oswestry, Denbigshire. Were the boundaries changed in the early 1800's. I can't seem to find any deaths or marriages in Daywell or Gobowen during that period.
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
I have Griffiths in the same area. Gobowen and Daywell were in the parish of Whittington, Shropshire. There weren't any boundary changes at that time. However, it might be worth checking out St Martins, Selattyn (both Shropshire) and Chirk (in Denbighshire).
What are the names/dates that you are investigating?
Gadget
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Hi, Thanks for the reply
I have
Edward Griffiths b. 1767 Daywell (m. Ann ? 1793 Gobowen)
Children:
Edward Griffiths b. 1797 Whittington (m. Elizabeth Jones 1821 Whittington)
Mary Griffiths b. 1794 Daywell, Whittington d. 1796
William Griffiths b. 1799 Daywell, Whittington
John Griffiths b. 1802 Daywell, Whittington
George Edward Griffiths b . 1805 Daywell, Whittington
Robert Griffiths b. 1807 Daywell, Whittington
The reason I asked about the boundaries is that I can't find a lot of records in Daywell or Gobowen in the early to mid 1800's. I thought that because Oswestry is so close to Daywell and I believe a bigger city that perhaps records were kept there.
I'm also hoping to find a tie between Robert Griffiths b. 1740 Daywell(m. Mary Lockley) and Edward Griffiths. I believe Robert to be the father of Edward (b.1797).
Wendy
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I have a rellie- Annie BROOME born c 1869 in "South Wales" but living with grandparents in Dawley from the age of 2.
Where might I expect her to have been born?
I think I may have a possible birth in Ludlow Sept 1869 6a 532. Could this be classed as South Wales?
I also have a possible marriage in Madeley Jun 1894 6a1195.
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Hi Brushbroomstick :)
Is this her ?
Name: Ann Brown
[Ann Broome]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: South Wales
Civil Parish: Great Dawley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Dawley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Madeley
Sub registration district: Dawley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Brown 51
Sarah Brown 50
Richard Brown 17
Fanny Brown 15
Henry Brown 14
Elizabeth Brown 11
John Brown 7
Ann Brown 2
Alfred Hughes 16
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2750; Folio: 66; Page: 28; GSU roll: 835398.
Pete :)
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Hi Pete
Thanks
Yes this is her - I have this info already but I am trying to trace her birth as I do not know who her parents are. I think she may be the illiegitimate daughter of Maria born 1846 or Jane Broome born 1848 both in Liverpool neither of whom I can trace after 1871 census.
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Having discovered that my paternal grandmother was Shropshire born [Madeley] I can now also claim Shropshire roots
With
GUY, Smallman, Boden, Hayward, Pritchard found so far
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Hi Gensleuth,
I'm investigating possible links to a Boden family in Madeley or Madeley Wood, around 1800. Are your Boden's from that area?
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Hi Shropshire Chatters,
Nice to see mention of the Dingle, and of Oswestry. My mum was born in Oswestry and her mother Dorine Williams ran a guest house there in Willow Street in the 60's - early 70's?
Went back to the Dingle in Shrewsbury this summer, as my mum and nan wanted it to be their final resting place. Nan Dorine was born in Shrewsbury and most of her rellies were hatched, matched and despatched at St Chad's I expect.
The names I'm researching from the local areas can be seen below.
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Hi DudleyWinchurch
It looks like Madeley for the Bodens, but I am only just beginning to find them.
My ancestor Joseph Guy b 1837 Wombridge married Emma, 1858 Wellington.[FreeBMD]
This seems to be Emma Boden, but I have yet to prove it.
If it is the Emma I think it is, then she was born in the Madeley area about 1838 [census].
There is a christening for a Emma Boden in 1838 in Broseley and her parents are John and Mary Anne.
Looking at the batches for Madeley and surrounding towns, there seem to be quite a few Bodens.
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Hi Gensleuth,
Similarly, I have a Fanny Brookes, born Madeley or Madeley Wood (censuses), around 1803, for whom the only candidate christening found so far is with parents Samuel Brooke and Lucera Boden. Since both Samuel and Lucy figure amongst her children and don't appear to be from names on her husbands side of the family, it looks good but all circumstantial.
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Hi,
Could anyone tell me where I could find a marriage that took place around 1793 in Gobowen. This marriage would be between Edward Griffiths and Ann. I found the marriage on FamilySearch.org and have found the children on the Shropshire Parish Records. But in none of these records do they mention Ann's maiden name.
Any help appreciated.
Wendy
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It is the case I'm afraid with many of the early Shropshire Parish Registers Wendy.When I was at the Shrewsbury Record Office last year I was left frustrated with many of the entries.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Thank you for replying William. It is frustrating. As I said I found the marriage on Familysearch.org but never did find the marriage on the Parish Records CD so I can't even figure out the father of my Edward Griffiths.
I noticed you have Jones/Griffiths. My records indicate the son of above, Edward Griffiths married Elizabeth Jones around 1820 in Daywell.
Again thanks
Wendy
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Yes Wendy I have no Jones line native to Shrpshire as yet.As I said though earlier on this thread I am searching for an Elizabeth "Griffith" who married Charles Lea at Whitchurch in 1690.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Hi William
I wish I could get past Edward and get to the 1600's. I don't think I'm going to have any luck getting info pre 1750's. Good luck with your search and thanks again.
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
I had a good look at all my records and couldn't find your Griffiths or a link to mine.
Gadget
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Hi,
Thanks for checking. My Griffiths' are difficult to follow. After (father) Edward died, the children seem to leave Whittington (Daywell). So far I found one in Wales (followed by her sister). Another went to Croydon after joining the Grenadier Guards in Manchester.
Wendy
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Its not easy Wendy going so far back and with the lack of maiden names as well.I wouldn't have found the Lea/Griffith marriage without the help of a cousin in the USA.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Hi Wendy
I notice that the marriage on the IGI is a patron submision one which states married 'about 1793', Whittington. Patron submissions can be submitted by anyone and are not as carefully controlled as the 'Extracted' ones that usually have a C or M as the first character in the Batch number. The patron submissions can be correct but need to be carefully checked against parish records.
Have you consideed the marriage of Edward Griffiths to Anne Roberts, in St Martins in 1794. This looks like an Extracted record from the parish records. It would be worth following up.
Regards
Gadget
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Thanks for the 'Roberts' possibility. It sure would be nice to get past this hurdle. I'll keep you posted.
Wendy
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Hi,
I found Anne Roberts/Edward Griffiths. Not living in UK, I'm not sure of the demographics of some of the places. Is Saint Martin Parish in the Whittington area? Is it a town? It's doesn't seem to be common area listed in FamilySearch.org as a birth place.
I did find two Anne Roberts born in Whittington -- one 1772 and the other 1774. Interesting is one of them had a father William/mother Mary which are both dominant names in my tree. The other had a father Richard which I don't have any.
Do the original records give more information?
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
St Martin's is the parish immediately to the north of Gobowen/Daywell. This link has a clickable map.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/StMartin/index.html
Gadget
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Thanks Gadget! So could people registered in either?
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Sometimes they would go to the nearest parish, regardless of where they lived. They could easily have a 'convenience' address for the purpose of Banns or Ann(e) could have been living in St Martin's parish.
some of my ancestors lived at Orseddwen which is just on the Welsh/Shropshire border about 2 miles west of Selattyn. Althouh it was in the Llangollen parish, most of the children were baptised there and they were buried there.
Gadget
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Thanks again. It can sure get complicated. So there is a chance that the family children were born Whittington and married Saint Martins. The searching pre 1837 is a bit new to me. I guess I'll check the siblings. If the other children I found were married Saint Martin, there's a good chance I'm on the right trail.
Wendy
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Hi,
May I join please?
I have Turners born in Trench Shropshire on one side of my family (indirect)
Sisters Esther(1863-1913) Annie (1868) and Sarah Jane (1860) all born Wellington area, all died in Manchester
(parents William (1826) and Mary (1828)
Siblings: John, Mary, Charlotte, Leticia and George.
and
Thomas Smith (argh!) (Gt-grandad)
born Dec 1874 in Wombridge, Wellington, died Manchester 1931
Parents George (B Walsall 1841) and Elizabeth (b Wellington 1836)
G-parents - George & Sophia
I actually find it wierd that both my dads maternal and paternal family came from the same area, similar generations and settled in Manchester in the same area...........
I also have a personal attachment to Shropshire - I lived & worked out on the Welsh Marches, right on the border of Shropshire, Herefordshire & Wales in aminly in Hopton Heath (near Craven Arms) for about 3 years.
LOL I had a Shropshire postcode, Welsh Telephone number, Welsh Dr and a Herefordshire Library card - and was denied a vote in the Welsh referendum cos I lived on the wrong side of the 'Wales' sign!
Gaille
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Hi Gadget and others,
I'm another ' Shropshire Lass ' so I'd like to join.
I was born & raised in Oswestry, a long time ago now.
Most of my ancestors came from there and the surrounding villages.
Barbara348.
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Hi
Does anyone know how I can order a copy of a Parish Record to see more info?
Wendy
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Hi Barbara - It was a long time ago for a lot of us :)
Hi Wendy
A while back the Shropshire FHS produce booklets and fiche of transcriptions of the records of most of the parishes you are interested in. Only the fiche are now available, as far as I know. Some libraries (I think Melbourne is one) have the booklets. I have a set of fiche for 'my' parishes which I then scanned and have got reasonable images of them.
I believe that these were purchased or whatever by others and they are available on CD from various suppliers and are part of the A*try parish records collection.
The only way that I know that you can see copies of the originals is either at the Shropshire Archives in Shrewsbury or by ordering in the appropriate parish film via a FH Centre (LDS).
Gadget
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Thanks Gadget. I believe there may be a FH Centre here in town. I did order a CD produced by Ancestry but it didn't include a lot of detail.
Thanks again...
Wendy
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Hi,
I have a friend visiting Shropshire in a couple of weeks who's family lives very near Gobowen/Daywell. He said he'd look up Parish records for me (see below for copy of the Parish record from Ancestry. Does anyone know the location of this record?
Shropshire: Whittington, Halston - Parish Registers, St. Asaph Diocese
Baptisms 1785.
Baptisms 1785.
Volume 8.
County: Shropshire
Country: England
23 Aug 1805 01 Sep 1805 George, s. of Edward & Ann Griffiths, of Daywell.
I'm hoping this record could give me Ann Griffiths maiden name.
Many thanks as always
Wendy
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Hi Again,
Has anyone ever heard of Towoder, Shropshire, England. That is the birth place listed on 1851 census: George Edward Griffiths - Army Pensioner - Croydon, Surrey?
Wendy
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Hi,
I recently ordered some birth certificates for verification and some were not in my tree. If anyone has the following names in their tree and think they may be a match, pls let me know if you'd like them :
William Griffiths
b. April 1865 (Oswestry)
f. Richard Griffiths m. Harriett Evans
William Griffiths
b. January 1865 (Oswestry)
f. John Griffiths m. Elizabeth Jones
Elizabeth Griffiths
b. February 1863
f. unknown m Eliza Griffiths (St. Martins)
Elizabeth Griffiths
b. December 1862 (Llansilin)
f. Hugh Griffiths m. Elizabeth Jones
John Griffiths
b. February 1854 (Knockin)
f. Henry Griffiths m. Martha Edwards
Wendy
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Hi Lloydy, Just joined your group and noticed the names in your family, my grandfather Ernest HUGHES born Duddleston Salop in 1890, married Mabel JENKINS in Newtown in 1915, any connections?
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Hi Rizzo
I haven't come across a Mabel Jenkins in all my lot. Do you know her parents' names? That might help to narrow things down a bit.
Sorry to go slightly off topic here :-[
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Hi Lloydy,
Sorry to be so long in replying, been working away from home all week. Just got Mabels birth certificate from Southport, childs name Mabel Henson, mother Laura Jenkins, no father named! So maybe her father was a Henson from Newtown, who knows?. Any connections to the Hughes' in Duddleston, Salop?
Regards, Bob.
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Hi Rachel_K
I notice that you have the surname 'Moreton' in your ancestor list - I was born a Moreton and would be interested in seeing if we have any ancestors in common. My Moreton's did not originate from Shropshire but moved there sometime in approx 1930's but I still have family in the area.
Crystal
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Hi Rizzo
No connection to your lot I'm afraid :'( The only Shropshire ancestors I have are the Betton (Beaton) line.
My Jenkins line originate from Llanidloes, and so far I haven't come across a Laura Jenkins.
Good luck with your research.
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May I join in please.
I have relatives (close family) living in South Shropshire and near Shrewsbury and a gr gr gr grandfather (James Nevitt) who was born in
Sherrington in the early1800s. (His father was a John Nevitt who hailed from somewhere - not known as yet):(
Nell
Hi. I typed James Nevitt into Google and was sent to one of your messages. I was very surprised to see the photo of my great granddad James. He looks very smart, the only photo I have was taken in the garden and is quite hazy. Definitely him though. The dates match. Looks as if we're related in some way!
Great uncle James, I believe, was a carpenter in the pit and was working on the shaft at the time of the explosion. I do have details, but not to hand at the moment. My grandma was Elizabeth Nevitt, daughter of James Snr, sister of James Jnr.
Jean
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Does anyone have any Shropshire Stubbs, Simon, Ikin or Llewellin?
Hi Jill, I have been working through my Cornish ancestors and have discovered a link with Llewellin, Shropshire. Are you still researching this family and had any leads?
My Gr-gr-grandmother was Charlotte Llewellin born 1817 in Falmouth, Cornwall. Her father, George, is recorded in the 1841 Census in St Buryan, Cornwall as being from "foreign parts" i.e. not Cornish. He died 1845 aged 70 which indicates he was born 1775. In the 1851 Census his widow is recorded as a "seaman's widow".
The IGI indicates that there is only one person matching this, born in the UK. The record indicates him born 1775 in Whitchurch of John and Sarah READ. They married 1761 in Whitchurch. A list of George's siblings also shows a sister Charlotte. The name George also pops up quite a lot in the records in Whitchurch. The only John that could match his father was born 1743 but seems a bit young. There may also be an error because according to records this couple's first child was only baptised 1764.
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Hi TigerOC,
I think our Llewellins may possibly be related, but I'm a bit stuck with them, so not sure! Mine are certainly connected to Whitchurch.
I have an Elizabeth Llewellin marrying George Ikin in Whitchurch 1770. For ages I couldn't find a baptism for Elizabeth, but finally found her in Malpas in 1746, a neighbouring parish over the county border in Cheshire. She's the daughter of Thomas & Sarah.
I think Thomas and Sarah then moved to Whitchurch (where I think Thomas came from, baptised 1731) and had the following siblings to my Elizabeth:
John 1750; Thomas 1751 (died); Thomas 1753; William (1755); Mary 1757 (died); Mary 1758; Eleanor and Robert 1760 (Robert died); James and Robert 1762.
I'm wondering if John (1750) could be the father of your George? Tentative, I know, but possible. What do you think?
Unfortunately, I haven't found the parish records for this area to be that accessible, so it's very difficult to get any further back.
Jill
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Thanks Jill,
Judging by the small number of records for this family in the area, there is a very good chance we are related.
There is an interesting link is names; Thomas and Sarah named a child Eleanor. The mother of the John I am looking at, born 1743, was Ellinor. His parents are recorded as John and Ellin and other records Ellinor.
1850 is too young. On the law of averages the male spouse tends to be around 25 when getting married, in my experience. The marriage of John and Sarah READ is recorded for 1761 although the first recorded baptism is Apr 1764. Unless Sarah had a number of miscarriages or stilborns the marriage date may be suspect. If John was the one born 1743 he would have been 18 when he married.
Are there any resource materials or a Parish Clerk that could look up burial records? John would probably have died in the early 1800's on the law of averages and burial record or even better a Will would provide some insight.
Regards, Rob
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Hello, What do you call a group of Shropshire Searchers?
I am trying to research my OH's family. Ad it is difficult! With names like
PRICE - Wem
JONES - Wem
DOWNES - Myddle
MYDDLETON - Prees
WRIGHT - Prees
POWEL - Prees
I've had a quick look through trhis thread and have only seen Jones does anyone have my names? Would love to help and be helped!
Cheers,
Abiam
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Correction
Hodgkinsons were from Staffordshire (Kidsgrove) and Cheshire (Astbury)
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Hello, What do you call a group of Shropshire Searchers?
Abiam
Salopseekers? ;D ;D ;D
or would that just be people searching for Shropshire? ::) ??? ::)
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Hi,
I noticed that you have Richardsons in your family tree and that your Dad came from Wellington, Shropshire. I don't know if you can help me but here goes...... My Nan was born Dorothy Richardson on 27th April 1908 at Kings street, Wellington. her Fathers details are not given but her Mother is named as Margaret Richardson of King street, Domestic servant Housekeeper. My Nan ended up in the Workhouse as it was then from where she was taken in aged 13 by an Emily Blount. She married my Grandad John Job Briscoe in 1930.
For about 3 years now my Sister and I have been trying to find out anything about the Richardson line with little success. We found a Margaret Richardson in Shrewsbury in 1901 working for a licenced vituler as a Domestic servant which could be her but we can't trace any Margaret R in the 1911 census in Shropshire. My Nan was always ashamed of where she came from so we only know the name of her Mother because i sent away for a copy of her Birth Cert.
Have you any Margaret Richardsons in your line in Shropshire/Staffs who may fir the bill? I know it's a very long shot but we have been stuck now for such a long time.
Many thanks and regards,
Erica.
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Can i join plz? I have Edwards (Ruyton XI towns) blodwell (yeaton).Unfortunately the world and his wife seem to have those names round there.
My gt gt grandad was richard edwards b 1815 in baschurch and my other gt gt grandad from there was edward blodwell.
jed
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Count me in!!
Half of my ancesters come from Shropshire, ....... Corbett's, Wedge, Edwards,Willetts etc
Alyson
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Hi Alyson, I wonder if it was one of your Corbetts that my gt grandads sister Mary Challoner married in 1881?
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Hi Angelfish58,
Quite possibly!! ........ I see that your Mary married a John Corbett, I have a few John's that need a wfe attatching, do you have them on census at all??
Where was mary born+ dob if you have it, and I will research further.
Kind regards
Alyson
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Hi, in 1891 Mary age 30 is in Arleston with husband John age 29 their children Arthur W. age 7 born Stockton on Tees (where the rest of her family had moved to) and Annie age 1 b Wellington. They are living with Johns parents Enoch age 64 and Emma 54, RG12 piece 2131 folio 135 page 2.
In 1901 they are still with Emma Corbett RG13 piece 2563 folio 31 page 8.
I don't have Mary's birth cert but according to the census's she was born abt 1861 in Wellington parish, probably in Ketley/Ketley Sand her parents were William Challoner (various spellings ::) ) and Elizabeth Mansell.
Look forward to hearing from you
Barbara
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Barbara
Sadly I cannot make a connection despite having 4 Enoch Corbett's in my tree!! It makes you wonder though if there is surely a connection somewhere?? Perhaps I have to travel back a bit further to find the link......I will keep all your
details and let you know if I can establish any connections.
Kind regards
Alyson
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Not to worry, there are a lot of Corbetts in that area so it was a long shot but just looking through the marriage certs that I have I've just found one for a John Archer marring an Emma Corbet daughter of William Corbet in Eyton in 1842.
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I have looked on RC many times and have posted messages but never come across Shropshire chat. If it's still up and running can I join please ?
I have paternal side - Wilkinson and Maddock/Maddocks/Maddox (not sure which spelling connections in Shrops. My grf Harold Wilkinson was born at Ironbridge and his father, Ben, was licensee of 'The Cock Hotel'. Ben married Margaret Maddock(?). I think Margaret had a brother who was a mayor in the area.
My paternal grandmother and her father, ?? Francis, was a poulterer who I think moved from Wolverhampton to Wellington.
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hi. i've just come across this thread and thought i'd post my main shropshire name of interest, which is 'hotchkiss' originally from wentnor/ratlinghope/norbury and then later shrewsbury and birmingham.
any connections?
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Hello Susanca:
I am also researching the Surname "Hotchkiss in Wentnor, Ratlinghope, norbury and also Acton Scott.
Cheers
Anne
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hi anne
we had some contact several years ago. i'll send you an email....