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Title: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Sunday 06 February 05 18:55 GMT (UK)
I would be much obliged if someone could look up a William Western (or Weston) in Marylebone. Born abt 1822. He worked as a wheelwright (later on at least).

The address appears to be 9 Beridence Place, Lisson Street, Marylebone.

(Though it could also read Parridence Place or  Barridence Place etc. - the handwriting is not excellent).

Thanks in advance, Simon :)

Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: outlaw on Monday 07 February 05 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
do you have an address?the 1841 isn't name indexed and there are hundred of pages ???
Paula
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: outlaw on Monday 07 February 05 19:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
is this him in 1871?

Eliza Weston 51  Marylebone Wife  St Marylebone  London   
Eliza Weston 16  Marylebone Daughter  St Marylebone  London   
William Weston 49  Marylebone Head  St Marylebone  London 
paula
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: outlaw on Monday 07 February 05 20:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
i've got to go out now but i'll have a look tomorrow for you.
paula
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: outlaw on Tuesday 08 February 05 20:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
i think the address is providence place lisson street .i've had a look but couldn't find him ??? what records or info do you have of him at this address?
paula
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Tuesday 08 February 05 22:38 GMT (UK)
I only have his marriage certificate in 1842.

It appears that after this he lived at different addresses. Sadly, it seems his childeren were not registered at birth  :(.


Simon.
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: outlaw on Wednesday 09 February 05 08:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
do you have the ages and names of the children?
paula
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Thursday 10 February 05 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Simon
do you have the ages and names of the children?
paula

Hello Paula.

The children (and aprox birth years) are;
William 1842
Margaretta 1844
Joseph 1847
Eliza 1855
Mary Ann 1860

I have a probable entry for them in the 1851 census, but it appears to be recorded very inaccurately!!

Thx, Simon.
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 10 February 05 21:49 GMT (UK)
Simon

tell us the 1851 ref
or cut and paste the original and we can all have a look!

would the 1841 have an address? doubtful ..... but the Parish etc from the 1851 would make life easier

Regards
Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Friday 11 February 05 22:11 GMT (UK)
Simon

tell us the 1851 ref
or cut and paste the original and we can all have a look!

would the 1841 have an address? doubtful ..... but the Parish etc from the 1851 would make life easier

Regards
Bryant

The possible match in the 1851 I found was 6 Bury Place, Marylebone.

Thx. Simon
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 12 February 05 18:48 GMT (UK)
Simon

St Marylebone (the Parish) is vast in size, spreading across HO107/675 to HO107/680 and the last one 680 (Paddington) is missing!
does it mention on the marriage cert of 1842 the Hamlet?
is it:-
All Souls and Trinity HO107/675
Cavendish Square HO107/676
Christchurch HO107/677
St John HO107/678
St Mary HO107/679
Rectory HO107/680

or is it the Hamlet of Marylebone which falls under the Parish of St Pancras HO107/686

i'll have a look in the Hamlet of St Marylebone for you

Bryant
 
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Saturday 12 February 05 22:12 GMT (UK)
Simon

I have just been through the complete Hamlet of St Marylebone
HO107/686/1-17 which is approxiamately 850 pages
and found just one family of Weston at
HO107/686/2
Gripe Street
Thomas Weston  25  porter  BIC
Rebecca     "        25               "
Jane           "         5                "
------------------------------
and one other at HO107/686/10
Woburn Buildings
Catherine Weston  40  needle woman  BIC
------------------------------
You can see the magnitude of the task...hopefully you can narrow the search...I didn't come across Lisson Street or P????????? Place so their is still hope

Best of luck with your research
Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: audrey on Saturday 12 February 05 22:28 GMT (UK)
hi I wonder might this be him ?

William Weston born 7/3/1815
chris 21/6/1815 at St James Church Westminster
father James Weston
mother Elizabeth
audrey
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Sunday 13 February 05 14:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all your help so far.

It seems the marriage took place in Trinity Church, St Marylebone in 1842, so it would be a good bet that he was living there the year before.

Kind regards, Simon.
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 13 February 05 17:58 GMT (UK)
Simon

1841
If the Weston's are living at Providence Place, Lisson Street it comes under St Marylebone, Christchurch...HO107/677/1 to 18..... in the 1841 census. It will still take a bit of finding as their is no Street index, but thats where it is.

1851
Bury Place, Earl Street (Marylebone) comes under HO107/1490 folios 309-316 in 1851

Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 13 February 05 18:24 GMT (UK)
1841 Census..St Marylebone
Providence Place....HO107/677/2....pages 1-57, found on the last few pages

Sorry
No 9 Providence Place is the abode of the Timson family...the Weston's are not seen anywhere else in Providence Place
although I did find in Lisson Street
Benjamin Weston  40  butcher   BIC
Elizabeth      "        30                   "
Benjamin      "        6                     "
Charlotte      "        3                     "
Jane             "         2 months        "
--------------------------------------

Bryant
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Sunday 13 February 05 19:51 GMT (UK)
Simon

In 1851 at 6 Bury Place

William Western  head  28   
Margaret    "        wife   30
William        "        son    9
Mary           "        daur    8
Joseph        "         son    5
John            "           "      2

no occupations or birth places are entered
---------------------------------
One would assume that if the recorded age is right? William is a single person in 1841?  and possibly living with his parents as he got married to a girl from Marylebone?
What was his fathers name which should appear on the marriage cert of 1842?
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Tuesday 15 February 05 19:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks. 


His father was also called William, and was a Wheelwright as per the 1842 marriage certificate.


Simon.   
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: Suzi on Tuesday 15 February 05 20:41 GMT (UK)
Simon - This could add further confusion to your quest, but I've found the following:

1821 Marylebone census
WESTERN living in Charles Street, High Street [page 66]

1831 Marylebone census
WESTERN living at Margaret Street [page 311]
WESTON living at Castle Street West [page 88]
WESTON living at Gloucester Place P.S. [page 221]
WESTON living at Nelson Place [page 354]
WESTON living at Great Park Street [page 423]
WESTON living at Spanish Place [page 507]

 ;)
Title: Re: 1841 Marylebone lookup please
Post by: simon04 on Saturday 19 February 05 18:30 GMT (UK)
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