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Title: 6th generation BROOKING (james & Jemima)
Post by: VolvoJim on Thursday 04 December 08 18:41 GMT (UK)
Hello ALL:

I am a 6th generation decendent of James Brooking (b. 1810) and Jemima Dart (b. 1820).  I live in the US and my Great Great Grandma Margaret M Brooking was the daughter of James & Jemima.

My tree has no history prior to James & Jemima.  I hope the names and birth dates are enough for some one to take notice.

Both were from Newton Abbot, Torquay, Devon, England

Thank you for any info you may have.

Jim
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 18:46 GMT (UK)
need PoBs in Devon - where they still in the UK for the early (1861/51/41) census ?


ah - you added Newton Abbot !  :)
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: VolvoJim on Thursday 04 December 08 18:51 GMT (UK)
need PoBs in Devon - where they still in the UK for the early (1861/51/41) census ?


ah - you added Newton Abbot !  :)

They should have been. it appears margaret m brooking was born in Newton Abbot, Torquay, Devon, England. she died in bethel Connecticut.  James & Jemima were married in 1840 in Newton Abbot, Torquay, Devon, England. i have no other info about them.
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 18:54 GMT (UK)
when was Margaret born ? Theres a candidate in 1851 - right area, but not right parents ....

a Jemima was in Tor moham in 1841, with a very young infant Sarah - no male present (not that the 1841 shows relationships, but can normally be deduced
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Tati on Thursday 04 December 08 18:54 GMT (UK)
Hi both and welcome Jim  :)

Sorry Newf - was typed  :-\

Not much help with the parents but here's possibly a sister ...  

1841 census
HO107/229 7 6 7
Tormoham, Devon

Ann Dart, 30, Seamstress, born in county
Jemima Brooking, 25, Seamstress, born in county
Sarah Brooking, 1, born in county

I too think Jemima = Jane in 1851 btw

Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 18:57 GMT (UK)
Thats the one I found   ....


Is this margaret then ?

Births Jun 1849   
BROOKING  Margaret    Newton Abbot  v10 p181
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 18:59 GMT (UK)
The marriage - in case you want to get a Cert...

Marriages Mar 1840    

BROOKING  James     Newton Abbot  v10 p241    to  DUST  Jemima     (hopefully a mistran of DART !)
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: VolvoJim on Thursday 04 December 08 18:59 GMT (UK)
ok, more info. jemima brooking (dart/DUST) (1820-1851) married 184 to james brooking (b. 1910) in Newton Abbot, Torquay, Devon, England

5 children

sarah brooking b.1851
louisa brooking b. 1842 married edward maryon b.1838
mary ann brooking b. 1844
william brooking b. 1848
margaret m brooking b.1849
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Tati on Thursday 04 December 08 19:05 GMT (UK)
Any idea what the M stood for? The daughter of Jemima and James seems to have been plain Margaret, but there is also a Margaret Martin Brooking born about the same time, parents William and Margaret ...

Jemima was older than you think by the way, if she was 25 (=between 25 and 29) in 1841.

Can you see a death for Jemima Brooking in 1851 Newf?  ???
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 19:06 GMT (UK)
The IGI isnt much help - someones been delving into this couple and made some stabs at a marriage date - but all refns are to a Jane ....
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 19:09 GMT (UK)
Looks like they had gone by 1861 - do you have an immigration date into the USA ?
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 19:11 GMT (UK)
Quote
sarah brooking b.1841
louisa brooking b. 1842 married edward maryon b.1838
mary ann brooking b. 1844
william brooking b. 1848
margaret m brooking b.1849


Those names all match the James & Jane couple in the 1851 census - again in TorMoham ...

HO107/1872; Folio: 383; Page: 59
Pimlic'o ?

 
James Brooking 41  Head Sailor Newton, Devon
Jane Brooking 39  Wife Newton [Abbott] Devon
Sarah Brooking 10  dau do
Louisa Brooking 9  dau Tor Devon
Mary Ann Brooking 7  dau Torquay
William Brooking 3  son do
Margaret Brooking 1  dau do
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: VolvoJim on Thursday 04 December 08 19:16 GMT (UK)
Quote
sarah brooking b.1841
louisa brooking b. 1842 married edward maryon b.1838
mary ann brooking b. 1844
william brooking b. 1848
margaret m brooking b.1849
Those names all match the James & Jane couple in the 1851 census - again in TorMoham ...


my great aunt built the tree, i am trying to expand it further back into england, holland and scotland .

so there might ne misinformation, as it stands?
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 19:17 GMT (UK)
Order Margarets Birth Cert (specified earlier) to check Mothers details ...... twill be interesting if its a Jane 'somebody else' !

£7.00 with a credit card ...

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/


Also if you get that Marriage Cert, it will detail their Fathers names - who may well still be around for the 1841 census ...
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 04 December 08 19:19 GMT (UK)
As Tati said - they are a little older than you thought - if they were correct themselves of course !

There is a death for a Jemima in Plymouth, 1845 - and a marriage of a James to a Jane, also Plymouth - but in the 4th Q of 1851, so prob not relevant - but you should get those certs - remember that the Census is just a one day snapshot in a 10 year period !
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: VolvoJim on Thursday 04 December 08 19:29 GMT (UK)
thank you all. very helpful info.  if anyone has info going backwards from james & jemima (jane). i can exchange info from maragret and forward.
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: Tati on Thursday 04 December 08 19:50 GMT (UK)
If I were you, I'd really try to find out what the M in Margaret stood for, just to check if the Jemima connection is correct at all.

As Newf asked - do you know when they emigrated? Did they leave Louisa behind (if she is the one who married Edward Maryon, she was still in England in 1864)?
Title: Re: 6th generation brooking (james & Jemima)
Post by: VolvoJim on Thursday 04 December 08 20:51 GMT (UK)
If I were you, I'd really try to find out what the M in Margaret stood for, just to check if the Jemima connection is correct at all.

As Newf asked - do you know when they emigrated? Did they leave Louisa behind (if she is the one who married Edward Maryon, she was still in England in 1864)?

actually most of it makes sense. i show an early death for jemima, and arrival appears to be around 1860's, i am researching that now.
Title: Re: 6th generation BROOKING (james & Jemima)
Post by: dormouse on Thursday 11 December 08 04:29 GMT (UK)
 If Iwas you I would try the Brooking Society web site
     www.brookingsociety.org.uk
   than you can find out who to conntect
  yours Brian