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Title: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: judb on Wednesday 26 November 08 03:44 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information about this mill and farm or about James and his family.  From IGI I have a birth (1770  Cwmyoy) and marriage (to Joan PRICE, 1799 Cwmyoy); can only see two children - John born1806 Cwmyoy, and William, 1814 in Clodock. Obviously it looks as though they were in Cwmyoy in their early married life but I can't find anything about them after 1812, although I have marriages and children for William in Mons after 1828.

The following is from the National Archives (papers held in Herefordshire Archives):
 "messuage, farm and lands called Pontlenny in occupation of James Ballard: messuage and water corn grist mill called Clodock Mill in occupation of James Ballard: last two mentioned properties in township of Longtown in Clodock."

Thanks for reading - any snippets gratefully received!   Judith

Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 26 November 08 10:31 GMT (UK)
found another baptism for you - James in 1809

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/cwmyoyprt.htm

but can't spot him in a census though.

There's a John Ballard marrying a Margaret Prosser in Cwmyoy in 1821, and a Thomas Ballard marrying a Margaret Price in 1828.

 :-\
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: judb on Wednesday 26 November 08 10:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks Osprey!

I have found a couple of sad little burials at Clodock also:
1813   26 Apr   SARAH   BALLARD   of Ponthenny   7w   Clodock St Clodock   1813-1839, HEF
1816   3 Feb   WILLIAM   BALLAD   of Clodock   20m   Clodock St Clodock   1813-1839, HEF

Also I note from the first burial that the spelling of the farm could be Ponthenny.
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 12 April 09 11:44 BST (UK)
Hi Judb....I have an ancestor babtised in Clodock in 1784..Edward Merrick .his father and mother were from Bridge Sollars...can I ask where you got your info for your burials please ???....cheers...allan
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: judb on Tuesday 14 April 09 05:17 BST (UK)
Hi Allan

I didn't keep the reference - silly me.  However I'll have another hunt as I would like to find it again myself.  May take a week or so!

Judith
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 15 April 09 06:39 BST (UK)
thanks Judith.........regards...allan ;)
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: GRACELAND on Friday 05 June 09 15:31 BST (UK)
any link to Ballard  lot in Leintwardine ????
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: judb on Saturday 06 June 09 05:12 BST (UK)
Sorry no, Graceland.  Mine went to Blaina, and stayed in the valeeys, moving to Cardiff and Swansea by about the 1880s.

There is a great site for Ballard family history that you might find useful.  The owner has some of my family on the site  Well worth a look.

http://www.paul-ballard.com/

Judith
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: Bosuns Call on Sunday 07 June 09 11:43 BST (UK)
Hi Judith,

Searching through Genuki I found this website. It may be of some use to you if you haven't already found it.

http://www.lhsarchive.org.uk/

It's the site of the Longtown Historical Society Archive which includes Clodock.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: judb on Tuesday 09 June 09 09:44 BST (UK)
Thanks, Bosuns.  I think that might even be the source of those burials.

Judith
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: Bosuns Call on Wednesday 17 June 09 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi Judith,

Just to let you know I visited the office at Harold Street today and I've sent you a PM.

Best wishes,

Bosuns Call
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: judb on Thursday 18 June 09 00:52 BST (UK)
Thank you so much, Bosuns Call.  The kindness of others on this site is amazing.  Hope you found what YOU were looking for.

Cheers, Judith
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: bernardhagan on Monday 22 February 10 02:49 GMT (UK)
There is a CD available about the old mill at Clodock.  It is available from the present owners who are restoring the mill and its leat.  One of my ancestors - Thomas GRIFFITHS - owned it in the 1850s.  If you contact the pub - Cornewall Arms - across the road they should be able to point you in the right direction.

There is quite a bit of information here:

 http://www.ewyaslacy.org.uk/-/Digital-Images-Collection-Documents-relating-to-Clodock-Mill/1800s-1900s/rs_dic_0200
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: JenniMoore on Monday 02 August 10 21:50 BST (UK)
My partner's mum's family come from Clodock, and from the 1960's or earlier, the mill owner was Arthur Gwilliam. I understand he bought the mill. He married a lady called Florrie who we think was previously Williams or Miller.

My "mum in law" is Doris Donohue - formerly Williams. Most people from that area are Williams, and they tend to live quite long!  While we are all now living in Manchester UK, Doris's family still run the Cornwall Arms in Clodock.  Her family come from 2 local farms in the area - one called The Bilbo (yes as in Lord of the Rings, but well before JRR Tolkien), and The Platch (?).  I  will ask "mum in law" to give you more info. Interestingly, one branch of her family live in NZ.  I'll be in touch, or perhaps she will - she's not bad on the IT stuff!

Best of Luck with your search - Jenni
Title: Re: James BALLARD, miller, Clodock
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 03 August 10 00:19 BST (UK)
Hi Jenni...I have PM`d you...as you have only made 1 post , you may not be able to answer me ( you have to make 3 posts before you can PM )...so could you answer me on here please...
are there any Merrick or Oakes family still around in Clodock please...could you ask you MIL....appreciate any info...but don`t post any living peoples christian names....if there are , I will contact the Cornewall Arms....thanx.....allan  :)