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Title: National Archives
Post by: Weathomas on Monday 17 November 08 14:45 GMT (UK)
I've recently found great grandfather's  WW1 pension records on ancestry.com but this is the only information (apart from his marriage cert) I've been able to find and I have hit a bit of a brick wall.

I live very close to the national archives in Kew and I was wondering if it was worth me going there to find out more about him?

Thanks
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: mmm45 on Monday 17 November 08 16:04 GMT (UK)
Hi
If youve got his pension record youve got more than most! :D

I think the only other info you will be able to find will be the unit war diary which will tell you what they were up to but doubtful if he will get a mention unless he did something of note.

If you can post his details some of us may be able to add to the background of what you have.
Have you got his Medal Index Card?

Ady
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: Weathomas on Monday 17 November 08 18:23 GMT (UK)
Hi
If youve got his pension record youve got more than most! :D

I think the only other info you will be able to find will be the unit war diary which will tell you what they were up to but doubtful if he will get a mention unless he did something of note.

If you can post his details some of us may be able to add to the background of what you have.
Have you got his Medal Index Card?

Ady

Hi Ady,

His name is James Charles Scott, he was born about mid November in 1898 and he was married in August 1920 to Grace Lilian Irving. On the marriage certificate it says his father's name is James Charles Washington Scott and they were both dock labourers living in what was know then as Rotherhithe (Southwark now). I've ordered 3 birth certificates so far and they all been duds :(. I thought if I went to the national archives I might get a little more information.

Oh I did find his index medal card on ancestry.com as well.
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 17 November 08 18:34 GMT (UK)
Got these entries ?

Births Jun 1860 
 
SCOTT  James Washington    Portsea  v2b p33_


Marriages Jun 1880   
 
Bayntun  Sophia    St Saviour 
Coleman  Martha Sophia     St Saviour 
Emmons  Henry David     St Saviour 
Scott  James Washington      St. Saviour  v1d p187   


Theres a lot of James scotts in Rotherhithe / Bermondsey, in 1901, but I cant match to the above  :(

Altho one of em is born c1860 Portsmouth, & married to a Sophia but no younger James with them ?
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 17 November 08 18:42 GMT (UK)
Presumably these 2 are the ones you have ?

Marriages Mar 1896 
 
Scott  James Charles     St. Olave  v1d p362


Births Dec 1898   
 
Scott  James Charles     St Olave  v1d p287

Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: forester on Monday 17 November 08 19:41 GMT (UK)
Assuming I have the right one Ady, there won't be a MIC or war diary.

James Charles Scott, TR/10/34310.
97th Training Reserve
Mobilised 16th Feb 1917
Discharged 13th June 1917; permanently unfit.

Phil
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: Weathomas on Monday 17 November 08 22:20 GMT (UK)
Assuming I have the right one Ady, there won't be a MIC or war diary.

James Charles Scott, TR/10/34310.
97th Training Reserve
Mobilised 16th Feb 1917
Discharged 13th June 1917; permanently unfit.

Phil

Thats the one Phil and I did find a Medal Index Card bizarrely and yes yes he was discharged due to sickness.

Newf I don't have a marriage certificate for his father but that is the birth certificate I have.

Here they are:

Birth 18th Oct 1898 - mother Sophia Bayn tonand father James Edward Scott
Birth 11th Sept 1900 - mother Eliza Mylnott and father John Scott
Birth 7th June 1897 - mother Eliza Dauncy and father Charles Gray Scott

All wrong month and the father's name is wrong too.

Athough  this:
Quote
Scott,  James Washington      St. Saviour  v1d p187 
has peaked my interest.

Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: forester on Monday 17 November 08 22:47 GMT (UK)
Sorry about that, I forgot that he was probably awarded the SWB.  :-[

Phil
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 18 November 08 00:53 GMT (UK)
http://www.1914-1918.net/queens.htm

If you scroll to 12th Reserve Batt youll find the 97th mentioned.

Ady :)
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: Weathomas on Tuesday 18 November 08 12:41 GMT (UK)
Thats so cool, thanks :)

I was hoping that it I went to the National Archives is might give me a clue as to where he was born but I guess not :(

Thanks to everyone that replied :)
Title: Re: National Archives
Post by: Necromancer on Tuesday 18 November 08 12:55 GMT (UK)
Quote
Athough  this:
Quote
Scott,  James Washington      St. Saviour  v1d p187
has peaked my interest.

I think thats the chap (shown as James W) in the 1901 census with a wife Sophia I mentioned - with no young James in the Household tho  :(