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i am researching family history and have found that my great grandfather lived at old treaty house cottage, uxbridge before the first world war.
my great grandfather was allan bryant, he was killed in egypt in 1915, would anyone know where this cottage was please?
sue
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Hi Sue,
Was his mother's name Rebecca? Was he born in1892 in Iver?
If you google "treaty house" Uxbridge, there are loads of results.
I haven't looked further to locate the cottage but it may be worth trying to find mention of it here www.old-maps.co.uk once you locate Treaty House, as you would suppose it wouldn't be too far away ;)
Good luck.
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hi ruski
many thanks for the reply and yes allans mother's name was rebecca and he was born in iver 1892.
so pleased for any help.
thank you
sue
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Sue,
Do you need the full 1901 census for the family, or do you already have it?
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hi ruskie
i would love the 1901 census for allan's family if you have it.
thank you so much for your kindness.
sue
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Here you go Sue:
RG13/ piece 1177/ folio 85/ page 36
Bridge Road
Hillingdon West
Middlesex
Rebecca Bryant wife married age 42 born Bucks Amersham
Alice daur single age 20 b Bucks Chenies
Rosa daur 15 b Iver
Arthur son 13 b Iver
Hester daur 11 Iver
Allan 9 Iver
Helen 8 Iver
James 7 Iver
Florence M 4 Middx Uxbridge
Maria A 2 Uxbridge
Poor Rebecca - all those kids! There's no father around but Rebecca doesn't say she's a widow. iIf you know his name, I'll try to hunt him down. ;D
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Whew .... more kids! ;D and I found the Dad ...
1891
RG12/1133/81/8
Round Copse Farm
Iver
Joseph Bryant head marr 32 b Bucks Amersham
Rebecca wife 32 b Amersham
Alice daur 10 Amersham
Elizabeth K 9 b Amersham
Sarah 7 born Iver
Rosa 5 Iver
Arthur 3 Iver
Alfred 2 Iver
Esther 1 (must be the Hester from 1901) b IVer
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I found this on FreeBMD which looks promising:
Marriage March 1878
Bryant Joseph
Gibbs Rebecca
district AMersham
volume 3a
page 468
Purchasing the marriage certificate using the reference numbers will give both father's names/ occupations etc .... ;D
I just looked at the 1861 census but couldn't locate Rebecca Gibbs. I found two joseph Bryants in Amersham born about 1859. One has parents Thomas and Eliza, the other has parents William and Esther. As Thomas and Rebecca use all these names for their children, you really need the marriage certificate to determine which are the correct parents of Joseph.
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ruskie
many many thanks, you have given me a lot to follow up.
bless you
sue
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You're welcome Sue,
You can't be sure till you purchase the marriage cert of Joseph and Rebecca, but I'm putting my money on this being your Joseph's family:
1871
Bury End
Amersham
everyone born in Amersham
William Bryant head mar 38 brewer's lab
Esther 34 wife
Joseph son 12 ag lab
Anne 11
Henry 9
George 7
Sarah 6
William 5
Arthur 2
RG10/1395/41/22
(The other Joseph Bryant from Amersham is a lodger in the 1871 census and his birth year is a couple of years out).
You can put this to one side till you find out for certain .... ;D
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ruskie
thanks again.
yes these are mine too, amersham seems to have been the start of the bryant family.
i do know that joseph's father william married esther stone, so i am on the right track.
you have confirmed everything for me now.
many thanks again
sue
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Do you have this ? There are some Bryants on here.
http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Middlesex/midsex/midsex_b.txt
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many thanks t-diddy
will have a look.
sue
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could posily be rebecca before the marriage
1871
RG10/1395/78/9.
john gibbs age 52. b. chalfont st.giles,bucks. occ. agr.lab. head.
elizabeth age 47. b. coleshill,herts. occ. lace maker. wife.
wiliam age 17. b. amersham. occ. agr. lab. son.
rebecca age 12. b. ditto. dauhter.
emma age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
henry.i. age 7. b. ditto. son.
living at;bendrose cottage,amersham.
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many thanks wozzle
yes, i think we are on the right track.
best regards
sue
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1861
RG9/847/76/11
john gibbs age 42. b. chalfont. occ. agr.lab. head.
elizabeth age 37. b. coleshill. wife.
jesse age 13. b. bucks. occ. agr.lab. son.
annie age 10. b. amersham. daughter.
william age 8. b. ditto. son.
naomi age 5. b. ditto. daughter.
rebecca age 2. b. ditto. daughter.
emma age 6mnths. b. ditto. daughter.
living at;bendrose cottages,amersham.
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did you want me to try and go further back with the gibbs family
mick.
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mick
many thanks for all o the info that you have kindly sent, its a great help.
if you wouldnt mind going back further and you can spare the time it would help greatly with finding out where i actually originated from.
i was born in iver, i know the bryants lived there too at one time, i now live in durham and its difficult to obtain info.
many thanks again
sue
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1851
HO107/1717/416/6.
john gibbs age 32. b. chalfont. occ. farm labourer. head.
elizabeth age 27. b. coleshill. wife.
mary jane age 8. b. coleshill. daughter.
amelia age 6. b. sear green,bucks. daughter.
jesse age 3, b, ditto. son.
anne age 8mnths. b. amersham ommon. daughter.
living at;amersham,bucks.
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a very big thank you mick, how kind of you to help.
thank you
sue
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there is this submitted entry on the IGI
marr
name; john gibbs
birth;1819 at chalfont stpeter.
marr 1841 at amersham
bride; elizabeth peppet
i then had a look at the GRO
and found this
marr index
name; john gibbs
y.o.r. 1841
qtr. oct/nov/dec
dist. amersham
vol. 6
page. 459
on the same page amongst others; elizabeth peppet
so they married after the 1841 census
will see if i can find them in 1841.
(after a cup of tea).
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you deserve it, a cuppa sounds great, might join you
thanks again sue
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here is elizabeths birth only a submitted entry though
name; elizabeth peppet
birth; 9th jan 1824 at coleshill,herts
parents; john peppet/ann rogers.
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cannot find elizabeth in 1841 at present
think this is john gibbs though
1841
HO107/
george grove age 70. b. out of county. occ. farmer
elizabeth grove age 75. b. ditto.
mary grove age 30. b. in county.
john gibbs age 23. b. out of county. occ. male servant.
james norris or sorris age 14. b. in county. occ. ditto.
daniel harriss age 14. b. ditto. occ. ditto.
living at shire farm,coleshill,amersham,herts.
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here is a birth entry
again only a submitted one
name; john gibbs
birth 1819,chalfont st.peter
parents; james gibbs/rebecca williamson.
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cannot find either james gibbs or rebecca gibbs or john peppet in 1841
possible sighting of elizabeth gibbs mother ann peppet in 1841
1841
HO107/440/2/6/6.
ann peppet age 41. b. herts.
mary peppet age 22. b. herts.
henry peppet age 11. b. herts.
fancy or fanny peppet age 9 or 19. b. herts.
thomas peppet age 6. b. hers
george age 4. b. herts.
living at coleshill lane,coleshill,amersham,herts.
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had a look for john peppet on 1851 no luck but found this
the female lodger could be interesting
HO107/1717/451/13.
frances peppet age 26. b. london. occ. lacemaker. head(wid)
alfred peppet age 6. b. coleshill. son.
john peppet age 3. b. ditto. son.
william age 1. b.ditto son.
william lawrence age 29. b. ditto. occ. agr.lab. lodger.
elizabeth rogers age 82. b. ditto. occ. lacemaker(wid). lodger.
living at; coleshill lane,coleshill,amersham,herts.
possibly this elizabeth rogers is the mother of ann pettet nee rogers (just a hunch though.)
shame we could'nt find john gibbs parents in 1841
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many thanks again mick, you have given me a lot to go on now.
a very kind rootschatter.
sue
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just to finish with
birth submitted entry
name; ann rogers
birth abt 1800 in coleshill
parents; james /elizabeth rogers,