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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Wigtownshire => Topic started by: alex m on Saturday 15 November 08 00:29 GMT (UK)
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Hello, First post, I have a query, on the 9th Oct. 1871 John & Margaret Landers registered the birth of a daughter Maryann at Newton Stewart. on the 29th of Sept. 1874 the same couple rgistered the birth of a daughter Mary Ann(there is this spelling difference) at Newton Stewart again. Is it safe to assume that the first child died, I've tried the death registers between the years but to no avail. Perhaps someone can assist....... Thanks Alex
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Hi Alex
Welcome to Rootschat :)
There is a death on Scotlands People showing for a Mary Ann Landers, aged 0 (less than 1) , in Pennighame
Gadget
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Gadget, Thank you very much for your reply, the death does fit in as the family lived in Penninghame. I tried again on 'Scotlands People' just now but I still can't find it, I must be doing something wrong! Anyway thank you once again! regards........ Alex
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Oh dear. I'm very sorry, Alex, I forgot to put the date. It was 1872. Put it down as it being late in the day :-[
If you go to deaths and put in the details as I've given, you should be able to get it. The surname and first names are as listed. Select Wigtownshire and Penninghame as the parish. Don't put in a date of birth.
Gadget
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Hello Gadget, Thank you for that info, it worked ok. on the 'Scotlands People' site, if you keep documents that you have viewed on the 'Timeline' do you know how long they stay there for? Regards........Alex
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Hi Alex :)
I don't tend to use timeline but the images that you've viewed and the searches that you've done stay there for as long as you want them. I have pages and pages and pages :-[
If you look along the top, below the header, you'll see 'viewed images' 'previous searches' 'timeline', etc. If you click on these you can view what you've looked at.
Don't delete anything though, because they're then lost forever and you'd have to research and pay credits to view them again.
Gadget
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Hello Gadget, Thank you for that info, I'm getting better at this as I go. Regards.......Alex
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Any problems, just give a yell :)
Gadget
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Hello, I've just found a member of the Landers family who died of an 'overdose of laudanum' certified by an M D ; any thoughts anyone?? Regards.........Alex
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Hi Alex -
Where and when?
Laudenum ( derivative of opium) was a pretty popular drug in the 19th century - Queen Victoria was supposedly a user:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Laudenum
Gadget
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Hi Alex
Iwas interested to read your message about Mary Ann Landers as she was my Grandmother and married Alexander Marshall and was wondering what your conection to the Landers was The Landers who took the overdose was Mary Anns Mother Margaret Landers (Nee McAdam) I have lots of info on the Landers and Marshalls
Regards
KeithM
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Hello Gadget,thank you for that info, where and when;;;28th Sept.1899 at Minnigaff, of all places!! Regards.................Alex
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Hello Keith, I think we have a connection, I have pm'd you Regards...............Alex
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Hi Alex
I too am decended from that Landers line. I am already in touch with Keith.
Hi Keith! :D
I would be pleased to exchange any information with you.
Kirsty
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Hello Kirsty, Going through some family photos and found one with a lady in it named on the back as Kate Galloway, it is probably from about the 1920's or 1930's. Got anyone with that name, around that time?? PM if you need a copy of it. I noticed the name Hawthorn in your pagelist are they from Castle Douglas? Regards....................Alex
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Hi Alex
There was an Aunt Kate in my family. She would have been born around the turn of the century, I don't have the exact date to hand. She was the eldest daughter of Elizabeth Landers (born 1877)- Youngest sister of Mary Landers who married Alexander Marchall.
I would love a photo.
The Hawthorns are from the Gatehouse/Girthon area, so some of them may have lived in Castle Douglas. I haven't traced them all yet.
If you want any more information on this line with respect to the Landers/Galloway branch I can post more when I have more time.
Kirsty
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I have been working a little more on this line and have hit a couple of snags, I wondered if anyone else could help.
I have managed to trace my line back as far as Thomas LANDERS (b c.1797) and Annie KELLY (b c.1801 Minnigaff) with a good degree of confirmation from certificates etc.
I have 7 children to them:
Jane c1825 - ?
William 1830 - 1868
Margaret 1832 - 1855
John 1835 - 1919
Charles 1839 - 1926
Alexander* 1829/1839 - 1857/1867
Robert 1843 - 1849
*Slight query over Alexander's birth year, due to discrepancy between SP Death index and the MI. Both give age at death as 28, but differ by 10 years in year of death 1857 vs 1867.
Have been unable to find birth entries for Jane or Alexander in the OPRs.
From their death certificates I have got parents names for Thomas and Annie:
James Landers and Agnes Clark (parents of Thomas)
James Kelly and Whilmina Hunter (parents of Annie)
However this is where I get stuck.
As both fathers were named James I am very surprised that there is no son James, unless he moved out or died before the 1841 census.
To add further confusion Jane had an illegitimate daughter named Mary at some point. Jane married in 1855 to John Broom and went on to have several children with him. Mary was mentioned in Thomas's Will and Testament (1877). I have been unable to find any other mention of her.
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I have just seen Alex's query on the KKD board re Landers in Balmaclellan 1792 census.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332946.0.html
I think the link with the Pattersons may possibly come from this family:
Thomas Landers and Margaret Paterson
Elizabeth 1774
Thomas 1776
What do you think the chances are of them being our lot?
Kirsty