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Title: parents
Post by: jake on Sunday 09 November 08 14:05 GMT (UK)

hi
  can anyone help me, i am looking for ernest barnes, born in birmingham
  between 1883 and 1888, parents charles barnes and alice barnes (nee
  hitchenor,) .he had three brothers henry/ frederick and joseph arthur
   i have found the parents but can't find ernest, need to find ernest and verify he is there son
                          any help appreciated

                                thanks jake                          

                                       

Title: Re: parents
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 November 08 14:23 GMT (UK)

Hi

If you check freebmd there were only 2 births for that name in B'ham 1882-1889 and the entry for 1888 died in 1889

If you then look at the free 1901 index on the link below - there is no entry b Birmingam between ages 13-18

www.1901censusonline.com

Where did you get your info from that they were his parents?

Title: Re: parents
Post by: jake on Sunday 09 November 08 14:34 GMT (UK)

hi CaroleW
                 thanks for reply, i found my grandfathers brother who was sent to canada from barnados, he ended up joining the canadian army,
and was killed 1918 just before the war ended, i have obtained his army records thanks to  KAREN M, on the instructions to send his pay it say's send to my brother ernest barnes, so he must of had a brother,
called ernest

                             regards jake

Title: Re: parents
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 November 08 14:35 GMT (UK)

The 1891 shows sons Henry 2 and Joseph 9 - both b Birmingham

Charles and Alice only married 1888 so Ernest and Joseph must be  from Charles first marriage.

Charles and Alice married in Stafford - not Warwickshire - but there is only one Ernest Barnes birth in Staffs - 1884 - and 1891 shows him with his parents

Title: Re: parents
Post by: jake on Sunday 09 November 08 14:54 GMT (UK)

hi again
            i know after they married they moved to birmingham,
joseph arthur was from his first marriage to ellen rouse which i can't find,
henry i found as you did then nothing els comes up on henry, so i think he eighther died or was sent abroad from a barnados home,
alice and charles died 1898 and 1899. joseph arthur i have most of his history as he was my grandfather, but the others seem to be a bit shy.
                      thanks for your help really appreciated
                                        jake

Title: Re: parents
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 November 08 14:56 GMT (UK)

Hi

Are any other details shown for Ernest (eg) is he shown as next of kin

Which of the brothers was your grandfather - Henry, Joseph or Frederick?

Was Frederick born after 1891 (was he Frederick Charles b 1894)

Title: Re: parents
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 November 08 15:00 GMT (UK)

I think the mystery may be solved

Births March qtr 1889   

Barnes  Ernest Henry     Aston  6d 261

Title: Re: parents
Post by: jake on Sunday 09 November 08 15:06 GMT (UK)

CaroleW
              hi again, yes that looks promising they may have left the one name out, my grandfather only used arthur not his first name,
thanks for your help i will check that out see what i can find
                 thanks again  appreciated
                             jake

Title: Re: parents
Post by: J.J. on Monday 17 October 11 01:55 BST (UK)

For those looking in, other threads on the Barnes Home Children...
( ancestors not included, use search above for other Barnes threads )
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142337.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,191330.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,185141.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,185143.msg902189.html#msg902189

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,11595.0.html