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Does anyone know if there are records for other ranks who served in the Royal Flying Corps.
Regards,
Brian
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This may help http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/familyhistory/guide/airforce/default.htm
Stan
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stanmapstone,
Thank you stan, I have been on Ancestry, unfortunately the records do not seem to have survived the fire. There is nothing under pensions or service record, my only hope now to be able to prove incorrect details on the CWGC site is through finding an obituary that shows his Regiment Number.
Thanks again,
Brian
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Would anyone be able to tell me anything about David Alexander Logan, born 16/1/1874 in East Lothian, who was with the Royal Flying Corps in WWI?
Sorry i don't have his enlistment number.
Magian
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Would anyone be able to tell me anything about David Alexander Logan, born 16/1/1874 in East Lothian, who was with the Royal Flying Corps in WWI?
Sorry i don't have his enlistment number.
Magian
The RFC WW1 Service Records are available to search online at the National Archives Site. Have you tried looking on there? See:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0818/
Romilly.
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Thanks Romilly
I looked this up but something isn't ringing true. We know that David was guarding prisoners in France during the war and have several mementos.
Curious!
Regards
Magian
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stanmapstone,
Thank you stan, I have been on Ancestry, unfortunately the records do not seem to have survived the fire. There is nothing under pensions or service record, my only hope now to be able to prove incorrect details on the CWGC site is through finding an obituary that shows his Regiment Number.
Thanks again,
Brian
Brian
Can you provide a name etc? It may not be a dead end with all the people here on RC and the information thay have.
Glen
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Hello Glen,
The service records for other ranks, who served in the RFC in WWI are quite scarce. I had tried to locate his service and pension records through Ancestry, but without any luck.
Here are the details that I have on Cpl. 8183 George Henry FURNEAUX, born 11 Feb. 1883 in Torquay. He died 4 Jan 1918 and is buried at Doullens Comm. Cemetery Ext. No. 1. On his death certificate it gives his rank as Corporal 1 A.D. [which I think means No1 Air Depot at St. Omer, France], he died of Pneumonia.
If you can find any of his records, I should be very grateful,
thank you,
Brian
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/royalflyingcorpsairmen.htm?WT.lp=rg-3148
This may help.....What momentoes have you he was in France guarding POWs?
Ady :)
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Hi Again,
I was able to download my late Uncle's WW1 RFC Service Record on-line from the National Archives Site.
His Surname was Wilson, and I was able to search by name from the Links shown on here.
The Catalogue Reference was: AIR/76/554
If I remember correctly, you have to pay £3.50 by credit card to download, - they are in PDF format.
Good Luck!
Romilly.
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Hi Ady
One of the prisoners made him a fabulous 4engraved matchbox cover depicting a German plane on one side and the other reads 269335 DA Logan RAF on the other.
He also brough back postcards that my grandmother had sent to him whilst serving. We think he was near Rouen, France.
Regards
Magian
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Magian
I think you need to get his RAF record he may have been originally RFC but didnt go overseas til after April 1918 when he was RAF there fore probably wont show up in MICs
Ady :)
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Re my last Post...possibly it was easier to find my late Uncle's Service Record because he was an Officer.
Having said that, I found the Archivist at The Fleet Air Arm Museum extremely helpful and knowledgeable about the RFC...& it might be worthwhile to contact her. See:
http://www.fleetairarm.com/
For some strange reason the FAARM also held records on my late father & two of his brothers who were all in the RNR during WW1!
Romilly.
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Hello Glen,
The service records for other ranks, who served in the RFC in WWI are quite scarce. I had tried to locate his service and pension records through Ancestry, but without any luck.
Here are the details that I have on Cpl. 8183 George Henry FURNEAUX, born 11 Feb. 1883 in Torquay. He died 4 Jan 1918 and is buried at Doullens Comm. Cemetery Ext. No. 1. On his death certificate it gives his rank as Corporal 1 A.D. [which I think means No1 Air Depot at St. Omer, France], he died of Pneumonia.
If you can find any of his records, I should be very grateful,
thank you,
Brian
Hello Brian
Not having much luck finding anything other than his medal index card. :(
He was awarded the British War and Victory Medals and didn't go abroad until 1916.
If you haven't tried it already, might be worth asking the Great War Forum aerial section http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showforum=25 to at least clarify the 1AD description.
Glen
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Ady
Romilly gave me the link earlier and this has caused some confusion - they have him resigning his commission in 1917 (6 months after signing up!). Everything to do with the Logan family is confusing.
Magian
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Hello Glen,
Thank you for trying to find out more about George Henry FURNEAUX. I managed to get his Medal Index Card, as you say, he was awarded the British and Victory Medal, sadly they were returned unclaimed. Can you tell me how you found out that he didn't go abroad until 1916. I have registered on the Great War Forum site, and will enquire about 1A.D.
Brian
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Hi
This link - http://www.raf.mod.uk/links/contacts.cfm - takes you to the R.A.F contacts page. In summary though, WW1 R.A.F records and those for the RFC and RNAS are held at the National Archives, post WW1 records for the R.A.F are held now at Cranwell following the closure of R.A.F Innsworth as a records office.
Hope that helps.
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Hello Brian,
If he had gone overseas before the beginning of 1916, he would also have been awarded the 1914/15 Star.
What is the correction to the CWGC entry that you are looking to make?
Phil
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Hello Phil,
Thanks for the information about getting the Star Medal if you served in 1914-15.
When I found George Henry's details on the CWGC site the first time, he was listed as Charles Henry. Eventually after being able to provide his death certificate, Medal Card and an entry in Flight, showing his service number and date of death, his details were corrected.
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I should have looked at the date of your original post. ::)
I was just about to post the Flight Roll of Honour entry.
Phil
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Hello Magian,
If the number on the matchbox cover is his service number, 269335, then according to a list I have, he was a civilian, enlisting into the RAF in June /July 1918.
Phil
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Hi Phil
Does this list tell you anything else?
A fellow RC provided me with the link to his record on National Archives which had him enlisting in the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders in June 1917 and resigning his commission on 13 December 1917 (possibly due to injury obtained in July on 14 July). The NA record doesn't have his date of birth so I'm not 100% that it's him.
Regards
Magian
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Magian,
If that is his service number on the box, then I would say that they are two different men.
The list is purely service numbers and when they were allocated, so will not get us any further.
Phil
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Thanks anyway Phil. The workings of the military are a maze to me so any help at all is appreciated.
I have some old photographs, taken of David in uniform with my grandmother, that I must look out. If they have dates, that might help narrow things down.
Regards
Magian
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Phil
Just a thought.... the NA records have a PPN or DDN number for David Logan - 12751. It's alongside the box on Registered Papers No. Would that mean anything?
Magian
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Magian,
The honest answer is I don't know.
Looking at a couple of sample papers on the NA, I would guess that it is for clerical use.
Is there anything on the same line, left hand side? That appears to be where the personal reference is.
An expert is needed I think.
Phil
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Sorry Phil
No other information. The record is very sparce with very little information given & the majority not completed at all.
Thanks anyway
Magian