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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: net64 on Thursday 06 November 08 19:15 GMT (UK)
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Hi, hope some one can help me.I am researching my family tree and have gotten as far back as my great great grandfather.My family are from Inishowen(Redcastle) and I am trying to locate some Limericks.
1. Margaret Limerick; she married my gr gr gr grandfather Charles Doherty from Inishowen circa1840,s? and moved eventually to Glasgow where she died.Her parents were Robert Limerick(shoemaker) and Catherine.She was born circa 1815/20?
2.Sally Limerick who was in the Griffiths for Ballylawn Inishowen for 1857.There was also a Robert Limerick( brother,son?) in the same area.Sally was alive and in Redcastle in 1867 as she was present at a relatives birth.
From some research online I have found that there are 2 Limerick families in Donegal for the Griffiths and 5 in Derry (Tamlagh Finlagan).I presume that they are all the same family as the surname seems to be quite rare.
Any info on births ,marriages or deaths would be extremely appreciated!There is a Robert Limerick who was born in 1801 in Ballykelly who might be Margaret,s father.
If anyone can help please do as this is one of the last pieces and it is driving me mad :)
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on my grgr grandparents marriage cert. one of the witnesses is a PATRICK LIMERICK. they married in 1858 in derry.
regards mary.
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Hi,
Parents John Limerick and Margaret Jane Kerr of Ballykelly.
Children, Samuel, George, John,Margaret Kincade, Sarah, Matthew and James Kerr, born between 1867 and 1880
George Limerick , Ballykelly died 1865
Nancy Limerick, Ballykelly died 1866
Also have various names for Londonderryif they are of any help.
Regards
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Hi,any info on any Limerick would be great.I know that margaret Limerick,s parents were Robert and Catherine as they are the names on her death cert.
I think the Robert Limerick who lived in Inishowen was her brother.Sally(or Sarah)I am not sure in what way she is related.
Iwould be grateful for any help as I am stuck on these ,thanks
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marriage. ROBERT LEMERICK TO FRANCES MCLENAHAN 1-12-1854 TOWNLAND BALLYLAWN, MOVILLE,DONEGAL INISHOWEN.
redcastle is very near moville.
regards mary.
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3 children of Robert Limerick and Fanny McLenaghan listed in IGI:
1. Sarah Jane born 1865 Moville district
2. Charles born 1868 Co. Donegal
3. Mary born 1870 Co. Donegal
See www.familysearch for exact dates as well as other people named Limerick
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maryderry and agadowey thanks very much for that info.It is although info that I already have.I think that Robert is Margaret Limericks brother as her father was Robert also(as on her death cert).
Sally (Sarah?) could be a sister,as she moved to Ballyargus and Robert was in Ballylawn and also Robert named a daughter Sarah.
Margarets mother was Catherine so I dont think Sally is her mother.Sally was present at the birth of my great grandfather James Doherty in Ballyargus in 1867 and she could have been 20,40,or 60!
You wouldnt think that it would be that hard to find a Limerick in Derry by that name as it isnt a hugely common name.
If any one comes across anything else PLEASE let me know!
Thanks
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LIMERICK MARRIAGES CO. DERRY
22 Mar 1827 Oliver Limerick to Anne Kyle St Columbs C of I Derry
24 Dec 1845 George Limerick to Mary Scott Ballykelly C of I
8 Aug 1851 William Moore to Margaret Limerick Ballykelly Presbyterian
2 Dec 1852 Robert Dripps to Jane Limerick Macosquin Presbyterian
28 Jul 1853 Jacob Murdock to Anne Limerick Agherton Presbyterian
29 Jan 1855 William mcCorkill to Catherine Limerick Cumber Upper C of I
8 Nov 1860 Pat Colgan to Sarah Limerick Long Tower R.C. Derry
21 Nov 1861 William McIlfatrick to Martha Anne Limerick Aghadowey Presbyterian
3 Jan 1867 John Limerick to Margaret Jane Kerr Myroe Presbyterian
8 Oct 1868 Frederick Ferguson to Maria Limerick Bovevagh C of I
15 Jan 1870 Patrick Elliott to Mary Limerick Long Tower RC Derry
21 May 1876 Patrick Holmes to Margaret Limerick Waterside RC Derry
28 Jul 1882 John McWilliams to Jane Limerick Ballylaggan Reformed Presbyterian
5 May 1883Henry Clifford to Catherine Limerick Londonderry RC
26 Jun 1890 John Limerick to Anne Doogan Londonderry RC
21 Sep 1890 James Limerick to Elizabeth McLaughlin (Breslin) L'Derry RC
9 Jan 1906 William Imrie to Bessie Limerick Gt. James St. Presbyterian Derry
17 Sep 1917 Henry Douglas to Mary Ann Limerick Londonderry RC
Regards
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Thanks Kingskerswell for that but,unfortunately there is no Robert and Catherine or Margaret and Charles Doherty.God, they are so elusive,where have they gone!
It was far easier to get all the Dohertys and theres a million and one of them!
If you come across any births that would be brilliant also :)
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21 Nov 1861 William McIlfatrick to Martha Anne Limerick Aghadowey Presbyterian
Martha Anne, of Meathpark (Ballybrittain townland), was the daughter of Thos. Limerick. Witneeses were William Heaney (Cullycapple) and John Anderson (Lisnamuck)- neither related to bride or groom.
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thanks Aghadowey but again not the names I am looking for.There seems to be every other name except the one that I am looking for.
Did anyone come across the birth for the Robert Limerick who lived in Ballylawn?If his parents were Robert and Catherine it would prove that he was a brother of Margaret.
There is no record of any Limericks in the Moville records except for Robert and Frances' children.The parish priest said that Limerick was not a name local to that area but moreso Derry, so they have to be somewhere.
I have trawled every site for weeks and cannot find any trace of the marriage or births for the ones that I am looking for.
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Three children of the marriage which Maryderry found were
Charles b 6 Jan 1868 Donegal
Sarah Jane b 1 Oct 1865 Moville
Mary b 17 Jul 1870 Donegal
Regards
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Three children of the marriage which Maryderry found were
Charles b 6 Jan 1868 Donegal
Sarah Jane b 1 Oct 1865 Moville
Mary b 17 Jul 1870 Donegal
Regards
These are the three children I mentioned earlier.3 children of Robert Limerick and Fanny McLenaghan listed in IGI:
1. Sarah Jane born 1865 Moville district
2. Charles born 1868 Co. Donegal
3. Mary born 1870 Co. Donegal
See www.familysearch for exact dates as well as other people named Limerick
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Aghadowey is correct. Where I put ROBERT please read CHARLES. My apologies.
Regards
Moderators Note: Name changed from Robert to Charles.
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Aghadowey and kingskerswell, thanks again.Yes I have all those births for Roberts children.I got them from the priest in Moville Parish.There were about 6 or 7 altogether.
It is Roberts birth or Margarets birth or marriage that I am stuck on(the generation before) I think Margaret was born circa 1819 and married circa 1838/39 and not early 1840s as stated in my first post.
She died on 20/12/1882 in Glasgow annd on her death cert her age was down as 63 which makes her birth year around 1819 and her parents were Robert and Catherine.
On Rootsweb I found a Robert Limerick born in 1801 in Ballykelly(Tamlaght Finlagan) .I wonder if this would be Margarets father?
Would it be a good idea to go to the Heritage Library in Derry?
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In the 1831 census index for Co.Londonderry there is no Robert listed for Ballykelly. However one is listed in the Parish of Glendermet in Londonderry city. In Ballykelly are listed George, Samuel, Thomas and William.
Regards
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Derry Genealogy Centre closed around last December and as far as I know they've not reopened.
The reason we are posting details about these Limericks from Moville is to give you as much information as possible since Limerick is a fairly uncommon surname.
Where did you get 'Robert Limerick born 1801 Ballykelly' ?
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Aghadowey, There is a thread on Ancestry.com dated 2000/2001 referring to an entry in a family bible for Robert Limerick b1801.
Regards
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I cant remember. On Rootsweb.com I think.I will have a gander later and see if I can figure out how I got it and let you know.
Kingskerswell,do you have any more info on the Robert in Glengermet?
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Net 64, I am afraid not. I only have a census index but the full census does not give much more information. It only names the head of house, the number of males and females and their religion.
Regards
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kingskerwell,thanks anyway.
The next route is to go to the archives in Dublin and try and get it there.
net64
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On Rootsweb I found a Robert Limerick born in 1801 in Ballykelly(Tamlaght Finlagan) .I wonder if this would be Margaret's father?
You may already have found this by now. Researching my own family history which can be traced back to Rev. Paul LIMRICK (my great x4 grandfather) born in Derry city in 1693 I have listed many Limericks who must have been related. I think you may eliminate Robert LIMERICK, b. 1801 as he emigrated to the US where he married Rebecca TREMBLEY in 1821 and, if he had a daughter Margaret before emigrating, it is unlikely she would have remained in Ireland to later emigrate to Scotland. Several Limericks did cross the water to work in the mines around Hamilton and the NE of England around North Shields.
However any links between my Paul Limrick (I believe his father was an innkeeper in Derry) and other Limrick/Limericks would be appreciated.
Penmill
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The Limericks of Ballykelly are of interest to me. The George Limerick referred to above was married to a Kincaid. I suspected a Kincaid-Limerick marriage somewhere and found the source in a US biography (see below with Limerick - Kincaid reference bolded). The Doherty-Limerick connection is quite interesting as the are a number of Kincaid-Doherty connections as well.
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James Clayton joined Captain Lowe's Company, Twenty-third Regiment of Tennessee Volunteers, October 5, 1861, at Murfreesboro, Tennessee, was appointed quartermaster sergeant at once, was put on duty as acting quartermaster as soon as General Cleburne's Brigade was formed, and was commissioned captain and quartermaster in 1862. Early in 1865 he was commissioned major and quatermaster and was put on the staff of General McComb, and with his command surrendered to General Grant at Appomatox Courthouse in 1865.
At the age of thirty-five years Mr. Clayton married Hadassah Cowan. She was born near Londonderry, County Derry, Ireland, where was also born her father, Robert Cowan, Jr., and where her grandparents, Robert and Leah (Wilson) Cowan, who were of Scotch lineage, spent all their lives. Robert Cowan, Jr., was reared as a farmer and engaged in that pursuit in his native land. About 1850, accompanied by his wife and nine of their ten children, he embarked on board a sailing vessel for America, and after a tedious voyage of six weeks and four days landed in New Orleans. From there he came by way of the Mississippi, Ohio and the Cumberland Rivers to Nashville, Tennessee, and thence by onnibus to Shelbyville. Purchasing a grist mill and a saw mill he operated them for two years, and then bought a farm two miles out from Shelbyville, where his energies were employed in tilling the soil until his death at the age of sixty-seven. The maiden name of the wife of Mr. Cowan was Hannah Limerick. She was born near Londonderry, County Derry, Ireland, a daughter of George and Annie (Kinkaid) Limerick, and died in Tennessee when sixty-four years of age. She was a woman of much force of character, and reared her ten children to habits of industry and honesty. The Kinkaid and Cowan families were Presbyterians and brought their children up in the same religious faith. Mr. and Mrs. Clayton became the parents of eight children, namely: Emma, James, Margaret, John, Jennie, Robert, George C. and Mary. The son James married Lida Keeble, and they have three children, James, Horave and Annie. Margaret is the wife of Henry Luck and has one child, Susan Luck. John married Rebecca O'Neal. Mr. and Mrs. Clayton for many yearsm until the recent death of Mr. Clayon, worshipped together as members of the Presbyterian faith [Hale, Will Thomas & Dixon Lanier Merritt. A History of Tennessee and Tennesseans: The Leaders and Representative Men in Commerce, Industry and Modern Activities. Chicago: The Lewis Publishing Company, 1913. page 2078].
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I forgot to ask where did your Limerick go to in Glasgow (ie. what district)?
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I forgot to ask where did your Limerick go to in Glasgow (ie. what district)?
Hi.They moved to the Gorbals area of Glasgow.
I also found out that Sally Limerick was Margaret's sister as she was visiting Glasgow from Inishowen at the time of the 1861 census.
Margarets son John Docherty(my gr gr granda) moved back to Inishowen and was a blacksmith.
Annette
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In looking at the bio of James Clayton above I noticed that I should have also posted another biography (that of George Limerick Cowan) which adds the Ballykelly connection. It is as follows.
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George Limerick Cowan, of Franklin Tenn., was born twenty miles from Londonderry, at Bally Kelly, County Derry, Ireland], Oct. 15, 1842. His father, Robert W. Cowan, was born in 1800, in the same place, was a farmer and one of the few who owned land. His wife was Hannah Limerick, also a native of Ireland. In 1851 they came to the United States and settled at Shelbyville, Bedford county, Tenn., where he bought a grist-mill, which he conducted in connection with his farm. In 1858 he sold the mill and devoted his attention to farming exclusively. He was known as the original secessionist of Bedford county and was very active in the serive. Both he and his wife lived to be nearly three score and ten years old. They had ten children, all but one of them still living. George L. received his education in the common schools, and in July, 1859, he engaged in the wholesale dry goods business at Nashville, in which he was engaged at the breaking out of the war. He assisted Capt. Montgomery Little to raise a company which was sworn into the Confederate service as an escort company for Gen. N. B. Forrest. At the end of a year Mr. Cowan was elected orderly sergeant, late was promoted to third lieutenant, then second lieutenant, and as such had command of the company at the time of the final surrender at Gainesville, Ala., May 10, 1865. He took part in all of the engagements in which Forrest's command had a part until the close. Returning to Shelbyville, he put in a crop on the home place, and later attended school for six months. In 1866 he associated himself with a wholesale house in Nashville and remained there for three years, when he organized a company known as Kinkade, Hanley & Co., wholesale druggusts, with which firm he remained until 1877. He then became a leading spirity in the firm of Cowan & Co., wholesale notions, but disposed of this interests in this house in 1887 and removed to his farm near Franklin. He was married Jan, 3. 1884, to Miss Hattie McGavock, daughter of Col. and Mrs. John McGavock. After his marriage he erected a neat cottage on their place, a part of the McGavock farm, and this has since been their home. Five children have been born to them, three boys and two girls. Mr. Cowan carried on general farming and stock raising, beng quite an extensive breeder of high class roadsters. He is one of the trustees of the Confederate Cemetery Company for twelve years; has been secretary of the Bicouac of Confederate soldiers; is a member of Hiram lodge No. 7, Free and Accepted Masons; has held all the chairs in that lodge; was delegate to the Grand Lodge for twenty years; has held every chair in Franklin chapter; is now grand king of the Grand chapter of the state; a member of Orestes lodge No. 10. Knights of Pythias. In politics he is a Democrat and has always been chairman of the county executive committee in 1892-93. Of Scotch-Irish descent, he finds the Presbyterian church his natural home and has been an elder of that church for forty years. For fifteen years he has been superintendent of the Sunday school. Mr. Cowan was engaged in the insurance business in Franklin for seven years. He is an expert accountant and does a great deal of that kind of work. The family home is one mile south of Franklin, and is a very pretty and attractive place [Allison, John. Notable men of Tennessee: Personal and genealogical, with portraits. Atlanta, GA: Southern Historical Association, 1905. p. 138-139].
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Your thread mentions Limericks in the North of England. i am descended from a William Limerick who arrived in Houghton Le Spring about 1825. William was born about 1781 and married Catherine MacMain in Ireland. They had a son William in 1824. I have not been able to find where they were in Ireland and was wondering if you had come across them.
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Good evening :)
Returning to this thread after a few years.I have found out a few things since and thought it better to add to this rather than start a new thread.
The following is an rough extract from Margaret Docherty's (nee Limerick) Poorhouse record from Glasgow 1878.
(Margaret Limerick or Docherty is aged 60 years,born in Ireland,Co Londonderry,3 miles from Derry town at Loch Enoch.Roman Catholic,daughter of Robert Limerick,shoemaker and Annie Broadly both dead.
Husband Charles Docherty died 21 years ago.Died in Inneshewan Ireland.Was born in Derry,Ireland and was a blacksmith )
It was originally thought that Margaret's mother was Catherine as this was what was on her death cert It now seems to be Annie and the surname probably Bradley.
I also now know that the Sally Limerick mentioned earlier was Margaret's sister as she was with her on the 1861 Glasgow census.Sally was on the Griffith's Valuation at Redcastle,Inishowen also.I got a death cert for a Sally Limerick,spinster died 1884 at Glenderine/Glenderowen.I'm pretty sure it's her.Age fits and it's the only Sally Limerick I have come across.
I came across a Robert Limerick on the 1831 census list at Enagh,Clondermot,Tirkeeran.I am hoping that this is her father but as Kingskerswell said in a prevoius post it only lists male or females not names :(
I also got From Family Search a Robert who died in 1867 ages 67 but it's trying to connect the two :-\
I was wondering if someone could maybe tell me what church would have been the local one for Enagh?I was hoping to try and find out where Robert might be buried or if there is any surviving records of his death or even his marriage to Annie (Broadly/Bradley).
I know that several of you have helped me out with this extensively previously and listed a lot of Limericks but any help to try and put me in the right direction would be really appreciated :)
Sorry for the long post!
Annette
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marriage. ROBERT LEMERICK TO FRANCES MCLENAHAN 1-12-1854 TOWNLAND BALLYLAWN, MOVILLE,DONEGAL INISHOWEN.
redcastle is very near moville.
regards mary.
These are my great grandparents. Their daughter Sarah Jane married my great grandfather John Toye
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Thanks Kingskerswell for that but,unfortunately there is no Robert and Catherine or Margaret and Charles Doherty.God, they are so elusive,where have they gone!
It was far easier to get all the Dohertys and theres a million and one of them!
If you come across any births that would be brilliant also :)
net64, I appreciate that these posts are from such a long time ago and you may have found all you need to know about these people by now. If not, they're my relatives though I'm still researching them as they've been quite a problem to find.
My GGGF is Robert Limerick who married Fanny (Frances) McClenaghan in 1855 in Moville. Their children are Catherine born 1856, Margaret 1860, Robert 1863, Sarah Jane 1865 (My GGM), Charles 1868, Mary 1870, Fanny 1873, Joseph 1875. All were baptised in Moville parish except for Joseph who was baptised in Iskaheen Parish, closer to Derry. This is where it gets complicated as Joseph was registered as Limerick at his baptism and his parents surnames given as Limerick but on his birth record his surname is given as Lamberton, both records say address is Three Trees, Moville, parents are Robert and Fanny, and the dates are right. The birth record for Lamberton says his mothers maiden name was McClenaghan so it seems right. It seems the family changed their surname to Lamberton and moved into Derry around then.
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Welcome to RootsChat, amh :)
marriage. ROBERT LEMERICK TO FRANCES MCLENAHAN 1-12-1854 TOWNLAND BALLYLAWN, MOVILLE,DONEGAL INISHOWEN.
My GGGF is Robert Limerick who married Fanny (Frances) McClenaghan in 1855 in Moville.
The OP (net64) was last online here in March 2016, but if they have the same e-mail address they registered with on RootsChat and still have notifications for replies turned on, then they should receive an e-mail to tell them of your post.
The marriage as you say was on 1 December 1855. Robert Limerick living in the townland of Ballylawn.
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-east/moville-upper/castlecary/ballylawn/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4024404#map=12/55.1971/-7.0494
The marriage record image attached below.
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Thanks for your welcome Kiltaglassan and for these details, those spelling variations will help me find the record
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You're very welcome, amh :D :D
Good hunting!