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thomas oxberry c 1840. he was living in castleford with wife hannah and son james in 1891. hannah died in 1892 but there is no sign of thomas or james in 1901. thomas didnt die until 1917 so he must be somewhere
thanks
perth :)
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Hi Perth,
Could he have remarried?
Found a Thomas OXBERSY 62, wife Jane 70, with possible grandson Thomas Oxberry, 18 . Think this is the Thos.W.Oxberry aged 8 with them and James 10 on 1891 census.
RG13/Piece 4447/Folio 124/Pg22
There is also a possible marriage Freebmd for Thomas Oxberry to a Jane Flethcher 1896, York.
Just have a look and see what you think ;)
Trish
Will look for James now ;)
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Hi Perth,
Looked at 1891 census image again. James appears to be aged 19, not 10., so born circa 1872.
Searched with this age and think I have found them 1881.
Are Thomas and Hannahs children, George, James, Mary Ann and Thomas ???? Some born Durham and the rest Yorks.??
Was Thomas snr. as glass bottle blower/maker??
Trying to find them on all censuses to see if what i found above is wrong and thomas might have gone to live with one of his childrens families after Hannahs death.
Trish
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hi trish
i have all the family in all the census up until 1901. the only person who i dont have in 1901
are thomas 1840
george 1868
james 1872
the last post of yours is them
you have certainly got me thinking now.
i know thomas died in 1917 in castleford. the informant was his son in law who is living with thomas in 1891.
the strange thing is his son william robert oxberry died in the same house 4 months before, but with that death having to have an inquest there was no informant so until today i didnt know who lived there.
the grandson thomas william oxberry was born in castleford in late 1882. as of yet i dont know who to. all the possible parents of thomas william didnt marry until later than that.
from what i know for def. thomas 1840 was left at least 600 pounds by his father. his father died in the same quarter as thomas wife hannah.
maybe he got the money and left castleford to go back to york(where the family did live for a time) and took the illigitimate grandson with him.
not wanting to be found he remarried and didnt go back to castleford until his son william robert had died.
i cant find the death of hannah his wife either allthough i know for def she was buried in castleford.
any thoughts would be app
perth :) :)
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I note that your post is dated 2008 but I have some info on Thomas Oxberry b:1840 at Haverton Hill, baptised at Billingham, Co Durham and who moved to York with his parents William Oxberry & Elizabeth Jordan. He married Hannah Burnett nee Benson 05 Nov 1859 at St Mary's, Castlegate, York as "Thomas Oxberry Jorden". They had 6 known children. Hannah was buried on 24 Dec 1891 at Castleford and Thomas remarried to Jane Fletcher nee Goodall in 1896. Hannah's death is registered under "Hannah Oiberry". Jane's death was registered Jun qtr 1910, York.
Thomas William Oxberry born 10 Sep 1882 was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Oxberry. Elizabeth married Harry Greenwood in 1884 Pontefract so perhaps Thomas William was not welcomed by his step father hence living in York with his grandparents in 1891.
Thomas William possibly married Emily Bruce 1900 York but there is confusion. On the 1901 Census a "Thomas Oxberry" appears living with his grandfather in York as a 'postman' but with an incorrect birth place of York and a status of 'single'. There is a second record in Sheffield of a "Thomas W Oxberry" declared age 18 and 'married' living at 4 Horner Road and also a 'postman'. He is a boarder.
RG13/4355/130/38/225.
George Oxberry (1867-1935) enumerated as "Oxbery" in 1901 at Dringhouses, York:
RG13/4444/19/3/145
James Oxberry (1872-1925). Enlisted in West Yorks Regiment in 1892. Regiment Number 3120. Possibly serving abroad hence missing in 1901 but further research is needed via his regimantal papers and the Regiment's whereabouts. There is a suitable death for him in 1925 Hong Kong and a Passenger list for a 'James Henry Oxberry" aged 52 departing Liverpool on 09 Jun 1923 SS Sarpedon. He is declared the 'Proprietor of the N E Hotel, Castleford'.
You probably have all of this by now.
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Perhaps you would be interested to see where Thomas and Hannah Oxberry and family were living in 1881.
Their address is 35 Adolphus Street in Dawdon which is part of Seaham. Seaham (or Seaham Harbour) was founded by Charles William Stewart, 3rd Marquess of Londonderry and many of the streets in Seaham have names relating to his family, his descendants and their associates. Adolphus Street was named for his son Lord Adolphus Vane-Tempest. (I was born in a street named after a later Londonderry's racehorse which won the St. Leger in 1921 at 50:1)
Here is a link to the 1897 25 inch OS map of the relevant area, zoomed in to show the bottom (ie east) end of Adolphus Street, with the word Adolphus in the margin:
https://tinyurl.com/y2bu3d9z (https://tinyurl.com/y2bu3d9z)
Judging by the enumerator's route, number 35 was probably off the map a little to the west.
If you track down the left margin of the map past Viceroy Street, the Allotment Gardens, and the two railways that cross each other you will see the label Swine Lodge (in the margin) Bank on the South Hetton railway that is running from the SW to the docks. From that position go due east to the coast and you will see Seaham Bottle Works, also known at one time as the Londonderry Bottle Works and owned by John Candlish (see his WP page here: https://tinyurl.com/ms7tpmk7 (https://tinyurl.com/ms7tpmk7)). Indeed if you look at the small group of houses just to the west of the bottleworks you'll see that one of the streets is named Candlish Terrace.
The Candlish works was the only bottle works in Seaham, so this is undoubtedly where he worked. It would have been a walk of a little over half a mile from his home to the bottle works.
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I note that your post is dated 2008 but I have some info on Thomas Oxberry b:1840 at Haverton Hill, baptised at Billingham, Co Durham and who moved to York with his parents William Oxberry & Elizabeth Jordan. He married Hannah Burnett nee Benson 05 Nov 1859 at St Mary's, Castlegate, York as "Thomas Oxberry Jorden". They had 6 known children. Hannah was buried on 24 Dec 1891 at Castleford and Thomas remarried to Jane Fletcher nee Goodall in 1896. Hannah's death is registered under "Hannah Oiberry". Jane's death was registered Jun qtr 1910, York.
Thomas William Oxberry born 10 Sep 1882 was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Oxberry. Elizabeth married Harry Greenwood in 1884 Pontefract so perhaps Thomas William was not welcomed by his step father hence living in York with his grandparents in 1891.
Thomas William possibly married Emily Bruce 1900 York but there is confusion. On the 1901 Census a "Thomas Oxberry" appears living with his grandfather in York as a 'postman' but with an incorrect birth place of York and a status of 'single'. There is a second record in Sheffield of a "Thomas W Oxberry" declared age 18 and 'married' living at 4 Horner Road and also a 'postman'. He is a boarder.
RG13/4355/130/38/225.
George Oxberry (1867-1935) enumerated as "Oxbery" in 1901 at Dringhouses, York:
RG13/4444/19/3/145
James Oxberry (1872-1925). Enlisted in West Yorks Regiment in 1892. Regiment Number 3120. Possibly serving abroad hence missing in 1901 but further research is needed via his regimantal papers and the Regiment's whereabouts. There is a suitable death for him in 1925 Hong Kong and a Passenger list for a 'James Henry Oxberry" aged 52 departing Liverpool on 09 Jun 1923 SS Sarpedon. He is declared the 'Proprietor of the N E Hotel, Castleford'.
You probably have all of this by now.
Hi Robert
sorry for the late reply. i dont get on here very often these days.
James Oxberry led a very different life after he left the services. He settled in Hong Kong, married a Japanese/Jewish woman and became pretty famous.
https://jhshk.org/community/the-jewish-cemetery/burial-list/oxberry-james-henry/
My great aunt remembered his wife coming to see the family after the end of the 2nd WW.
Sadly that was all she could remember. There are documents that show she was in the UK in Nov 1945.
i did a lot of research on this back in 2008 ish and most of it slips my mind now. there are some things still available online about him.
i have an article on his funeral from the hong kong times somewhere. if i find it i will post it.
thank you for taking an interest in my post
regards
Perth
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Perhaps you would be interested to see where Thomas and Hannah Oxberry and family were living in 1881.
Their address is 35 Adolphus Street in Dawdon which is part of Seaham. Seaham (or Seaham Harbour) was founded by Charles William Stewart, 3rd Marquess of Londonderry and many of the streets in Seaham have names relating to his family, his descendants and their associates. Adolphus Street was named for his son Lord Adolphus Vane-Tempest. (I was born in a street named after a later Londonderry's racehorse which won the St. Leger in 1921 at 50:1)
Here is a link to the 1897 25 inch OS map of the relevant area, zoomed in to show the bottom (ie east) end of Adolphus Street, with the word Adolphus in the margin:
https://tinyurl.com/y2bu3d9z (https://tinyurl.com/y2bu3d9z)
Judging by the enumerator's route, number 35 was probably off the map a little to the west.
If you track down the left margin of the map past Viceroy Street, the Allotment Gardens, and the two railways that cross each other you will see the label Swine Lodge (in the margin) Bank on the South Hetton railway that is running from the SW to the docks. From that position go due east to the coast and you will see Seaham Bottle Works, also known at one time as the Londonderry Bottle Works and owned by John Candlish (see his WP page here: https://tinyurl.com/ms7tpmk7 (https://tinyurl.com/ms7tpmk7)). Indeed if you look at the small group of houses just to the west of the bottleworks you'll see that one of the streets is named Candlish Terrace.
The Candlish works was the only bottle works in Seaham, so this is undoubtedly where he worked. It would have been a walk of a little over half a mile from his home to the bottle works.
Thank you Alan.
this was very interesting. the Oxberry family started out at potters and as glass became more popular they were taken to Sunderland to work in the glassworks there. they then moved all around the north east as glassworks opened in new towns and citys. my g uncle was the last i know of who worked in the industry. this was in Castleford.
thanks again
Perth
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Gosh query revived after all those years ;D
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In the well-tended Jewish Cemetery in Hong Kong there stands an imposing
stone, decorated with wreaths, ribbons and garlands, dedicated to James Henry
OXBERRY [ID:I2579], born in Blaydon, Newcastle upon Tyne, 6 March
1871, died 19 December 1925.
The Hebrew inscription on the stone reads:
“the memorial stone of the tomb of a perfect and upright man who feared
God and avoided evil ... Isaac Oxberry, who departed for his eternal home
on the 3rd day of Tevet and his days were ... years”9
An obituary in the Hong Kong Telegraph10, dated Monday, 21 February 1925,
describes him as the Proprietor of the Palace Hotel, Kowloon. It goes on to
relate that Mr. OXBERRY was a native of Yorkshire and, as a young man, had
been a member of the services. He later joined the staff of the Hong Kong
Hotel and had been proprietor of the Palace Hotel for the past eight years. He
was a very keen “Buffalo”11 - he had attained the highest rank - and also a
Freemason. He was also an active supporter of many sporting organisations
on the island. The funeral at the Jewish Cemetery was conducted by R.I.
ELIAS, assisted by Mr. D.S. GUBBAY, and, among the chief mourners, were
Messrs I.L. and H. GOLDENBURG, E. ABRAHAMS and N. MOSES. They
may well have been surprised by the departure from Jewish ritual that followed
its conclusion, when, we are told, a Mr. G. SHERRIF conducted a Royal
Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes service, with the members lined up round the
grave. We have found a probable birth certificate in March Quarter, 1872:
OXBERRY, James, Gateshead, 10a 826, a year later than the date given on the
stone. The following look the most promising matches in the 1881 and 1891
censuses:
1881
OXBERRY, Thomas, Head, Married, 41, Glass Bottle Blower, Harwent Hill,
Durham
OXBERRY, Hannah, Wife, Married, 42, York
OXBERRY, Mary Ann, Daughter, Single, 16, Dressmaker, York
OXBERRY, George, Son, Single, 13, Scholar, Blaydon, Durham
OXBERRY, Thomas, Son, Single, 11, Scholar Blaydon
OXBERRY, James, Son, Single, 9, Scholar, Blaydon
RG number: RG11 Piece: 4967 Folio: 143 Page: 109
35 Adolphus St, Dawdon, County: Durham
1891
OXBERRY, Thomas, Head, Married, 51, Glass Bottle Maker, Durham,
Harvent Hill
OXBERRY, Hannah, Wife, Married, 52, York, Yorkshire
OXBERRY, James, Son, Single, 19, Glass Bottle Maker, Durham,
Blaydon On Tyne
OXBERRY, Thos Wm, Grandson, 8, Scholar, Whitwood, Yorkshire
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3763 Folio: 110 Page: 20
Address: 50, Cambridge Street, Castleford, County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
We have not located him in the returns of 1901, by which time he may have
already been in Hong Kong.
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Who are you trying to find James or Isaac?
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the original post was looking for Thomas and James his grandson.
we did find them, but not the woman Thomas married. i have no idea where she came from.
Isacc was the Jewish name that James had when he was part of that faith in Hongkong