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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: oldenuf on Wednesday 05 November 08 21:45 GMT (UK)
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Hello, Can anybody in the Manchester area help find the mother's name of my grandfather Joseph Smith!!! Joseph, a Coppersmith gave his residence as 124 Rutland St, married Harriet Beasley of on 26 March 1883 in St. Mathews Church, (Parish unreadable on marriage certificate) his father was Henry Smith an Engraver. Joseph's age on certificate was 29 indicating a birth about 1853/4, Harriet's age was 28. T. Taylor Evans was the assistant curate who officiated. I have been unable to find a positive record of Joseph's birth. I would be very grateful if anyone could please help me. Sherri.
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How about this
1861
Henry Smith 50 labourer b Manchester
Elizabeth 48 wife householder b ditto
Thomas 21 son coppersmith b ditto
Elizabeth 14 dau b ditto
John C 12 son errand boy b ditto
Eliza J 10 dau scholar b ditto
Walter 8 son b ditto
Joseph 6 son b ditto
61 Camp Street Manchester
RG9 2940 fol 9 p 12
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1871
same address as 61
Elizabeth 67 married
Walter 19 son app to coppersmith
Joseph 17 son app to coppersmith
William 4 or 14 son scholar
all born Manchester
RG10 4037 fol 74 p 17
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Agree on the 1861, just found it also!
Camp St is in St Matthew district :)
Barbara
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1881
Looks like Joseph
1 Great Western Inn
Samuel Bruffell 31 publican
Eliza Bruffell 31 wife(could this be Josephs sister)
Joseph Smith 26 visitor brass finisher
William Smith 15 visitor scholar
both born Manchester.this Inn seems to be next door but one to 61 Camp Street
RG11 3989 fol 53 p 10
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Agree with you both and tracking back in the 1851 census Henry was a Labourer to an ENGRAVER!!!
Regards,
Mo
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Thanks Mo I was just about to do that.Were there any more children,trying to narrow down the marriage
Isy
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1841
Henry Smith 35 engraver
Elizabeth 25
William 5
Thomas 1
Hewitt Street Manchester
HO107/570/18/15 p24
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LDS individual submission has Henry Smith m Eliza Jackson, 30/11/1835, Manchester.
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If I was going to order a certificate I would go with Eliza Smith.Cant be sure of any others.She married Samuel Bruffell Jun qu 1872 in Manchester and her age is consistent,This looks like the one to me
Dec qu 1849 Manchester 20 526.You could have them check parents names,if its right you will have Elizabeths maiden name.
I saw that marriage on IGI it looks good but there is no evidence that it is right.On every census she is Elizabeth not Eliza
There are 3 christenings on IGI that are extracted records and 2 of the children are on 51 census with Henry and Elizabeth
Henry Smith ch 3 Jul 1836 Manchester Cathedral
William Henry Smith ch 19 Mar 1837 on census age matches
Charlotte Smith ch 27 May 1838 also on 51 census