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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: jean.ellison on Wednesday 05 November 08 15:17 GMT (UK)
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Hi All, I have just discovered some wills listed in the catalogue for the National Library of Wales for my ancestors and wondered if anyone knows how I can apply for copies of them and how much they will cost?, best wishes, Jean
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Hi Jean.......
I have a few wills for my Podmore family, from Flintshire.
I applied online www.llgc.org.uk
You will need the reference number , and I think mine cost about 5-6 pounds.
Mine was written in 1784 , and was really informative , and really helped me a lot with my research.
Regards
JeannieR
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Hi Jeannie, thanks for the reply, I have sent them an email to find out costs etc.
I have also had wills that have helped my research, but I find a lot of them very difficult to know where to apply for them, the ones I want were actually listed on Family research Lancashire Wills lists, so I asked Lancashire record office, who told me they were not held there and to apply to Chester record office, but then I accidently came across them in the Wales Library Catalogue, hopefully I will now be able to get my hands on them, can't wait, best wishes, Jean
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Hi again Jean.....
Just to let you know , that I have quite a few of the Parish Registers , for Hawarden . The name Youde / Youd , do's figure in them .
If your family came from Hawarden , I just may be able to help in the future.
Regards
JeannieR
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Hi Jeannie, Yes my Youd's did originate from Hawarden and I have had quite a bit of help with them with another kind member of this board, but I wonder if you could look to see if you can find a Thomas Youd or Youde born about 1802?, I am trying to establish a link with this Thomas to my great great grandfather, Samuel Youde, a Farmer born about 1815, could you also please tell me what years are covered on your parish records, please?, would apprecaite any help, best wishes, Jean
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Dear Jean.ellison. A g.g.grandfather of mine Richard Parry married Ellen YOUD 12th. Oct.1795 in Doddleston and both are of that parish. Witnesses George Burton and John Pilbbea or something like that.
Richard was a farmer in Higher Kinnerton.
One other bit I found about Youd is in Hope P.R.s. 28/12/1797 John Youd born to Thomas and Anne of Doddleston.
Can you tell me if the above Ellen is connected to your family please? Thank you, Alan
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Hi Alan,
I am a gt. grand son of Joshua Youd of Hope (1876). I think I'm the only one of his brach of the family to have sons that carry the name, and we would dearly love to trace them back as far as possible but have no clue how to prior 1837.
I've not heard of the John Youd mentioned in the previous post. However, I do know my grand father F.S. Youd was born at Fron Farm in Hope Mountain, as was his father Joshua. However, Joshua's father, John (1830) was born to William Youd (1794) and Susannah Youd (ne. Jenkins) who was from Doddleston, Kinnerton.
Would anyone be able to confirm if the William Youd (1794) was born to Thomas and Anne??
Many thanks in anticipation,
p.s. the 1861 census entry of the Youds of Hope was spelt Youde, but not in previous or subsequent years. The Fron Farm was also mispelt as 'Vron' also.
William Youd
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Dear William. All I have is the marr. of Richard Parry my ggg.grandfather to Ellen Youd 12/10/1795 which is in doddleston/Higher Kinnerton parish records which are at Chester RO, Duke St. Chester CH1 1RL phone 01244 602574. You need an appointment.
I could not find anymore in the above records about Ellen or other Youds so I guess they were from another parish or were non-conformists etc. Higher Kinnerton had parts in Hope parish as well as Doddleston.
The info. about John Youd I got from indexes to Hope P.R.s in Mold Public library among other places. In the index to marr. 1780 to 1812 on page 51 is John born to Thomas and Anne of Doddleston by License.
Doing it by license suggests that one or both may have been from other parishes or there was some hurry or they just preferred that.
The next time I get around to it I will look for youds again working from the info. you have given me. The best place to look at Hope records is Harwarden RO, Tjhe Old Rectory, Harwarden. CH5 3NR tel 01244 532364. Again an appt. is needed.
Hope this is some help, I will get back to you when/if I get anymore. Good searching Alan
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Dear William, Me again. I have just read what I sent yesterday. I had copied from my rough notes and can't now see how I got a birth of John mixed up with the marriages. It is dated 28/12/1797 and must be the birth of John or it would have had Anne's nee name. I think I may have seen the marriage somewhere else and mixed up the notes. I will check as soon as I can.
Going through old notes again I found in Doddleston births 2/12/1799 Anne daughter of John Youd farmer of H.K. Later I found she married someone called Tisncock or something like that.
In H.K. census 1851 is Mary Youd 77 widow, farmer of 67 acres born Mold. Also there is son Samuel 36 and his wife Elizabeth 29 from Pulford Cheshire and their children Margaret 9, George 4 and John 3 all born H.K. plus a grandson Thomas Davies 9 born Dudley Staffs.
So maybe John 1797 was a brother of your William 1794, again I will chech when I can.
Bye for now Alan
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Hi Alan,
I am a gt. grand son of Joshua Youd of Hope (1876). I think I'm the only one of his brach of the family to have sons that carry the name, and we would dearly love to trace them back as far as possible but have no clue how to prior 1837.
I've not heard of the John Youd mentioned in the previous post. However, I do know my grand father F.S. Youd was born at Fron Farm in Hope Mountain, as was his father Joshua. However, Joshua's father, John (1830) was born to William Youd (1794) and Susannah Youd (ne. Jenkins) who was from Doddleston, Kinnerton.
Would anyone be able to confirm if the William Youd (1794) was born to Thomas and Anne??
Many thanks in anticipation,
p.s. the 1861 census entry of the Youds of Hope was spelt Youde, but not in previous or subsequent years. The Fron Farm was also mispelt as 'Vron' also.
William Youd
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Hi William, as far as I know your Youd's are connected to mine, I have the parish records for Doddleston and have quite a bit of info, including some pictures of the graves of some of your Youd's from Hope parish church, I wanted to send you a personal message, but apparently I can't do this until you have made at least three messages, so I will try and tell you what I can through here, please bear with me, I have just returned from holiday and it will take me a bit to sort through my notes,
best wishes,
Jean
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Hi Alan, I think all the Youd's in Kinnerton were connected in some way or another, I have got back to two Thomas Youds born around the same time at Hawarden, one married a Mary Sharp, and the other an Anne Anker, or sometimes spelt Anchor, I strongly suspect mine is the Mary Sharp family as their son John Youd bap in 1762, was the father of my great great grandfather, Samuel Youd, the one you found in the census. I think this same John was also the father to William Youd, by a first wife, this is William's family, as they end up at Vron Farm, which is where he mentioned. I will have a look through my notes and see if i can find your Ellen and which family she belongs to, best wishes for now, Jean
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Dear Jean. Thanks for your help with Ellen, I haven't got anywhere up to now.
Odd bits I have about Youds are;- From the IGI there were 2 Ellens born in 1772 and 1778 in West Kirby who could fit. Their fathers are Henry and William. West Kirby seems a long way from Dodleston but in the buriels in 1857 and 1865 there are 2 Parrys from Birkenhead so there seems to have been a connection with the Wirral.
I went through the Hope baptism indexes from 1668 to 1770 but found no Youds there. In Buriels 7/5/1788 is Anne Youd age 61 abode Frwmryd.
The entry that I got mixed up with in my note to William is in the marriages; Full text
28/12/1791 John Youd age 26 bachelor son of Thomas and Anne of Doddleston married Mary Chambers age 18 spinster daughter of Charles and Mary of Shordley. Witnesses Samuel Lawrence and Mary Philips.
In Hope baptisms 1781 to 1812 are 12 entries of Youds which you probably have already but please say if you need them and I will gladly send them. One I noticed was 17/9/1812 Ralph Nickson born to William and Anne (Widow) of Hope Owen.
In a book I saw in Harwarden RO 'Dodleston- history of a Marcher Parish' page 89 mentions Thomas Youd bricklayer.
Bye for now Alan.
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Dear William. I have now checked that entry which I got mixed up. Please have a look at the message I have sent to Jean Ellison where I have put the correct version. Cheers Alan
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I wondered if you had checked this name index which is useful for the more unusual names in Denbighshire and Flintshire.
http://www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk
There is a key to the Parishes to which the numbers refer at the top left of the page, in blue :)
maidmarion :)
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Dear Maidmarion. Thanks for that, what an amazing lot of info in one place. I have not heard of it before. All credit to the lady who put it all together too, an unbelievable amount of work. Regard Alan Williams
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Can anyone clarify or confirm this bit of info I received regarding one of my wife's ancestors---A marriage of Edward Griffiths c1829 to Elizabeth Youd c 1830 in Gt Boughton Area. abt June 1850 as I would like to put details in F/T Thanks Tom
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Hi Minerite and welcome ;)
You may get more response to posts if you start a new thread for each query and there is also a "look ups" section for each county.
I would direct you to the correct bit if only I knew where Gt Boughton was ::)
I am sure you will soon find your way around and if not, someone else will be along to assist you further :)
maidmarion ;D
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Hi, Thanks for that , I will try putting it in another form elsewhere sometime. Tom
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Cheshire BMD lists a marriage of Edwards Griffith to Elizabeth Youd, 1850 St John , Chester. On Freebmd it is listed in the 2Qtr. (April/May/June). Further details would be from the certificate which you can order from the Cheshire BMD website.
HTH,
Megran.
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Hi, Thanks for info--exactly what I needed-much appreciated- Regards Tom
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Can anyone clarify or confirm this bit of info I received regarding one of my wife's ancestors---A marriage of Edward Griffiths c1829 to Elizabeth Youd c 1830 in Gt Boughton Area. abt June 1850 as I would like to put details in F/T Thanks Tom
29 June 1850, Chester St. John
GROOM_FNAME EDWARD
GROOM_SNAME GRIFFITH
GROOM_STATUS BA
GROOM_OCCUPATION WHEELWRIGHT
GROOM_AGE 2200
GROOM_SIGN S
BANNS BS
BRIDE_FNAME ELIZABETH
BRIDE_SNAME YOUD
BRIDE_STATUS SP
BRIDE_AGE 2100
BRIDE_SIGN S
W_FNAME_1 MARY
W_SNAME_1 HUGHES
W_FNAME_2 SAMUEL
W_SNAME_2 THOMAS
C_FNAME W B
C_SNAME MARSDEN
G_F_FNAME WILLIAM
G_F_OCCUPATION WHEELWRIGHT
B_F_FNAME WILLIAM
B_F_OCCUPATION FARMER
ADDITIONAL_INFORMATION G FRANCIS STREET
from Cheshire Parish Register Project
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Hi, Thankyou for the info and I am really grateful for your help. I will study it later tonight to cofirm facts etc and then probably put in F/T--Regards Tom
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I was just looking on Ancestry for anything about Youd in Cheshire and asked about the above.
Puddington40 who is doing the family suggests that my Ellen may be the one born 27/05/1778 to William and Jane (nee Kendrick) in Hoose near West Kirby.
William was at first a husbandman or day labourer but when Ellen was born he was a soldier. The family then dissappear from the area.
The interesting bit is that Richard Parry farmed in Bramley Lane, Higher Kinnerton and in that lane there was a "Military Farm" and near the top of the lane was a "Barracks Lane" so perhaps Soldier William was stationed there. Perhaps Richard and Ellen were neighbours?
This info is in a history of HK in Harwarden RO.
So perhaps Ellens father was posted to HK and took his family there.
While in Hoose William and Jane also had a John in 1769 and two Arthurs. The first died and the second was born 1775. So they may have got to HK too.
I will trying to follow this up and will update here if I get anything.
Humphpaul
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Youde, Elizabeth, Hawarden, Flint, Spinster
Elizabeth Youde : bond, 1814
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/658628
Youde, John, Higher Kinnerton, Dodleston, Flint, Farmer
John Youde : bond, 1805
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/631953
Youde, John, Higher Kinnerton, Dodleston, Flint
John Youde : will, 1838.
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/957734
Youde, Thomas, Higher Kinerton, Hawarden, Flint, Farmer
Thomas Youde : will, 1816
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/821921
Youde, Thomas, Plas madoc, Rhiwabon, Denbigh, Clerk
Thomas Youde : will, 1806
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/876861
Youd, John, Higher Kinnerton, Hawarden, Flint, Yeoman
John Youd : inventory, 1813
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/1034789
Youd, Thomas, Kinnerton, Dudleston, Flint, Farmer
Thomas Youd : bond, 1829
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/1035546
Youd, William, Hope, Hope, Flint, Farmer
William Youd : will, 1856
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/203874
There are a couple of Youds from Hawarden but the images are not online
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Just a general note to all interested in Youds. Wilcoxon has just replied to my query about Military barracks in Higher Kinnerton and has pointed me to a bond in Chester 1829 in which my g.g.g. granma Ellen Youd is mentioned as the lawful daughter of Thomas Youd deceased, farmer of H.K.
So mystery solved. I haven't been able to find her baptism but will redo with her father's name. Thanks to all for help
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I`ve just spotted that Thomas Youd died 29th April 1829, which should make him easier to find.