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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: adge654 on Monday 03 November 08 20:12 GMT (UK)
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Would anybody have any info on the Ingram family, the only address I have is the village Lyneham. I have some details but would like to know more of William Ingram and his wife Rebbecca hilliar born around 1805. if possible I hope to trace their parents in the late 1700s, or even further back. Also Williams son David, born abt 1847 married Helen Hulbert, a governess, living at Tochenham originally from Cirencester but was known as Ellen in a family bible, why her name altered. Thank you for any help, Adge654.
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The 1841 census for this family does not give a son David.
Cricklade and Bassett Union,
HO 107, piece 1179,folio 7/34,page 8.
WILLIAM INGRAM b 1806 age 35 Ag Lab.
REBECCA INGRAM b 1806 age 35.
ANN b 1829, Age 12.
JAMES 1832 age 9
JOHN 1834, age 7.
EMMA 1836, age 5
JANE 1840 age 1.
HESTER, age 70. Ag Lab.
JAMES AYLIF age 20.1821
Address, Preston, Lyneham.Wiltshire.
Brionne
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possibility
christening
name; rebecca hillier
date; 13th may 1804
place; compton bassett,wiltshire
parents; william/chistian
ext.rec. IGI
just noticed it is your first posting
so a warm welcome to rootschat.
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The 1841 image clearly shows HESTER INGRAM age 70 Ag Lab.
Brionne.
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Thanks Brionne and Wozzle, for your help, yes it is my first and I hope to do a lot more as time goes by, there are many photo's ect; that I could do with help, my biggest problem is at 68 I'm finding it confusing trying to remember to start on one name to follow and stick to it, I find another and go off at another angle.
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did you want me to go further back with the rebecca hillier family that i posted
i have the marriage of william and christian
also other children that they had.
mick.
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Here's William's baptism in Lineham (sic)
6 Aug 1802 William son of John Engram and Esther his wife
Cheers Dave
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Here's the family in 1851
HO107/1834/062/002 Preston. All surnames Ingram
William, hd, 49, ag lab, WIL Preston
Rebecca, wi, m, 47, Wil Compton
James, s, u, 19, WIL Preston
John, s, u, 16, Ag Lab, WIL Preston
Jane, d, 13, WIL Preston
David, s, 5, WIL Preston
Esther, mo, w, 80, out door pauper, WIL Preston
I guess age is catching up on me too. Dave
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Thanks Wozzle and Davierj,
I would be most grateful if you could take it back further as it is my direct ancestors and I continue the family name. If you have any information on both husbands/spouses and children far back it would be a great help, I've not sussed out working the parish records yet, my big problem also is finding out about their lives and employment and the hardships involved. hopefully I may be of help to others one day.
Thanks again.
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It would appear that John Engram died 1840 Mar qtr, Cricklade district, vol 8, page 217
Dave
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I notice you have Hulbert in your tree. I too have a number of Hulberts (with various different spellings) in my tree also. THey start with Joseph Hurlbatt born about 1695 at Lyneham. My line goes through his son, James, baptised 29 May 1715 at Clack. Any connection?
Dave
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christenings
rachael hillier
date. 20th march 1785
there are also these with variations on the surname
the parents of all are william/christian
hester hellyar
29th april 1787
ann hellyar
23rd jan 1789
joseph hellyar
13th nov 1791
john hillyer
12th april 1795
mary anne hyllyer
1st april 1798
all events took place in compton bassett
on the IGI their surname has a < at the beginning and end of it
does SKS know what this means.
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possible marriage
name
william hillier/christian pope
date; 1st sept 1783
place;yatesbury,wiltshire.
ext.rec.IGI
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Hi Mick,
Thanks for that, I cant be sure that the spelling for hillier is correct, but I understand spelling by some officials back then was a little bit suspect, like the name of christian, would it have been christine I wonder.
cheers, Alan
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Hi Dave,
The Hulbert's that I have originate from Cirencester and lived at no. 18 Sheep street, Cirencester, I have a family book of church services and in the front cover is written; To our mother on her birthday in 1866 from her affectionate children, Ellen & Edward feb-12-1866, on another page is written the name, Sarah Hulbert, Cirencester, Glos.
From there it appears Ellen becomes Hellen and is living at Tochenham as a Governess and at the same house is Jane Waters, a niece it must of been there she met my GGGrandfather and married him on aug-7-1875 in Swindon.
At a later census Jane Waters is at 18 Sheep street with her Grandparents, William and Sarah Hulbert. I do realize that census returns only show where people were on that date and not necessarily the correct address.
Cheers, Alan.
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i think christian was probably her name
it appears as christian on all the childrens births and her marriage
and as you can see below on er christening
name; christian pope
christening date; 21st feb 1762
place; yatesbury,wiltshire.
parents; stepen (possibly should be stephen) pope and sarah pope.
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Dave,
Correction on the Hulberts, I put to many G's down it should be great grandfather. I don't know if they are the same Hulberts as yours but there were many aunts and uncles and siblings around Cirencester.
Alan.
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I don't know about the Hulburts as I only have them in Lyneham in the 18th century.
Be prepared as I am about to throw a large spanner with these baptisms in Compton Bassett which also occur in the IGI...................
13 May 1804 Rebecca Hillier dau of William and Christian
27 May 1804 Rebecca Hillier dau of John and Ann
Only one marriage in Compton Bassett
8 Jul 1826 James Williams, otp, lab and Rebecca Hillier, sp, otp, witnesses George White and ?? Taylor
Marriage at Lyneham
11 Nov 1826 William Ingram, otp and Rebecca Hillier, otp, banns, witnesses John Reeves and James Brother
Fathers' names were not recorded in either marriage record, as was the custom of the time, so it was not possible to identify the correct Rebecca Hillier.
There were these burials in Lyneham
25 Mar 1840 John Ingram, Preston in Lyneham, 79
30 Jun 1845 William Hillier, Fosbury Farm (Tidcombe), 63
Dave
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I apologise to anyone trying to send email to my 'yahoo' address as I am having a lot of trouble with it and yet yahoo has not managed to sort it out, it has only been since recieving emails from 'rootschat', has any one else had any problems ?
Alan
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Hello, I'm descended from Hulbert's in Cirencester. I wonder if anyone in this old trail is still active on RootsChat with useful information to exchange? Neil.
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Hi Neil, I haven't been doing a great deal of family research lately, but have just received notification from Rootschat of your input.
My line from the Hulberts that I know of starts from William Hulbert my G/G/Grandfather, his daughter Ellen/Helen, was my G/Grandmother, she married David Ingram, their son George William Ingram was my Grandfather, his son Walter George Ingram was my father.
I know there were a lot of Hulbert children and I know there were several addresses in Cirencester, I did try to find 18 Sheep street but I believe that it went a long time ago to make way for a car park.
I would be interested to hear about your connection with the Hulberts and if there is any way we can assist each other. Alan