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Title: BLACK family in Liverpool
Post by: didih on Monday 03 November 08 08:00 GMT (UK)

I have found that my gt.gt.gt Uncle, Henry Black (b1850) moved to Liverpool from North Wales and was married to a girl called Mary from Dumfries they had 7 children and Henry is listed as a cocoa house manager.
Has anyone come across any of the Blacks and what is a cocoa house manager

Title: Re: BLACK family in Liverpool
Post by: redpuma on Monday 03 November 08 17:18 GMT (UK)

Hi

Henry Black and his wife Mary and 2 sons are listed in the 1891 cenus Henry's birth place is shown as Menai Bridge Anglesey and as you say Mary from Dumfries the 2 sons James and David being also born in Anglesey the rest of the children in Liverpool.

Check the following site out which will shown some Liverpool local history in particular it will show a picture of Richmond Row and a Cocoa Room sign.  I presume that Henry must have been a manager of one of these

http://www.scottiepress.org/tcooke/tcooke.htm

hope the link sheds some light on your ancestors

Title: Re: BLACK family in Liverpool
Post by: wozzle on Monday 03 November 08 17:30 GMT (UK)

i take it you already have the 1851,1861,census for henry black
1851
HO107/2517/336/27.
1861
RG9/4348/92/20.

Title: Re: BLACK family in Liverpool
Post by: didih on Monday 03 November 08 18:00 GMT (UK)

Thanks yes I have the census returns and i think I have found David in the 1901 census as well
Thanks for the link I will go and have a look quite a departure from the rest of the family cocoa room manager all the others are are slate quarry workers or farmers

Title: Re: BLACK family in Liverpool
Post by: andrewalston on Monday 03 November 08 18:20 GMT (UK)

I would expect that a Cocoa House was run on similar lines to a coffee house, with newspapers etc available to customers.