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Title: barker family essex
Post by: mudrick on Friday 31 October 08 11:59 GMT (UK)
looking for barker family,arthur and mary barker born in bromley by bow in 1864
and 1866 any of their relations. Mudrick
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Yorkslass on Friday 31 October 08 12:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Mudrick,

Welcome to Rootschat!

I've looked at the 1871 census, but there are quite a few Arthur Barkers born about 1864. None of them born Bromley by Bow.

Do you know who Arthur and Mary's parents were, or what Arthur's father did for a living?

Yorkslass
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Yorkslass on Friday 31 October 08 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hello again,

This is the nearest I can get to your Arthur and Mary Barker and their ages.

RG10/281, Folio 84, Pages 50/51

Brewers Yard, St Mary, Islington

Alfred Barker    Head       41   Carman  b  Hants, Bishops Stortford
Mary                  wife        40                   b London, Middlesex
George               son          13                           “
William              son          11                           “
Arthur                son           8                            “
Mary                 daur           6                           “
James                son             2                           “

Hope it's the right one!

Yorkslass



Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: mudrick on Wednesday 05 November 08 11:37 GMT (UK)
 thanks yorklass
The arthur barker Im looking for was born in Saffron Waldon
his wife was born Mary Adelaide yeo in Chelsea,not sure when they got married any help thanks
mudrick
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:16 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Here's an Arthur registered in Saffron Walden 1864  (found on FreeBMD)

Arthur Pilgrim Barker   Sep 1864   Saffron Walden   4a   364


Several other Arthur Bakers registered from 1857 - 1908 in Saffron Walden.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:20 GMT (UK)

Is this your Mary?

Births:

Mary Barker   Sep 1866  Saffron W  4a   365   (from FreeBMD)



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:22 GMT (UK)
1871 -  RG10/1708; Folio: 133; Page: 6 - Saffron Walden
'The Square'


All kids born Saffron Walden ...
 
John Barker 41  Head Journeyman Bricklayer Essex, Saffron Walden
Ann Barker 38  Wife Essex Elmdon
Nathaniel Barker 16  son Brickies Lab
Alfred Barker 15 son Plasterer's Lab
William Barker 12 son
John P Barker 10    son
Mary L Barker 8  dau
Arthur Barker 7   son
Mary Barker 5 dau
Lucy Barker 3  dau
Spencer V Barker  son under 1 month (and something else illegible)



So where does Bromley by Bow come into the picture - was a bit confusing  :P
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:25 GMT (UK)
the only Essex marriage of a John and Ann is in 1851 Dunmow .....
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:27 GMT (UK)
In 1881 Arthur (b Saffron Walden) is lodging with the Rainbow family in Castle Street, Saffron Walden and working as a fishmonger's assistant.

Ref   RG11    1818/71    41
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:37 GMT (UK)
This could be Mary Adelaide's birth:


Mary A Yeo     Jun 1866   Chelsea  1a    219    (FreeBMD)


Looking for the marriage........


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 05 November 08 12:44 GMT (UK)
A possible:


Mary Adelaide Yeo   Dec 1887   Poplar   1c   .......rest is unreadable

An "Alfred Barker" is shown as a possible groom.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: mudrick on Thursday 06 November 08 13:49 GMT (UK)
hi nanny jan

arthur barker was born in 1864 in saffron walden essex,but I dont know when he married Mary Adelaide yeo. I know Artur's father was Martin Barker.Arthur and Mary had about six Children who I am interested in can you help thanks Mudrick
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 06 November 08 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Mudrick,

Quote
I know Arthur's father was Martin


drip-feeding the info out like this over a series of posts is causing people to use time and resources to no avail.

Please could you outline all you know.

I'm guessing as you havent mentioned it that the Arthur I found in the 1871 census is wrong as his father was a John ?


So where did you get the father Martin's name if you dont have Arthurs marriage Cert ?
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 06 November 08 14:49 GMT (UK)
I suspect that you have your Arthurs and Alfreds mixed up - remember that NJ found the probable marriage of an Alfred Barker to Ms Yeo in 1887, Poplar (covers Bromley by Bow)

1871 - RG10/1708; Folio: 132; Page: 3 - Safron Walden
'Sarah's Place'


Martin Barker 38  Head
Eliza Barker 39  Wife
Alfred Barker 7  son


all born SW
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 06 November 08 14:52 GMT (UK)
However ....


that Alfred is still at home with parents in 1891, a single man ... so he's eliminated and not the Alfred who married Ms Yeo in 1887.

RG12/1432; Folio 91; Page 26
4, Castle Court


Martin is now a Carman, and Alfred a Coach Builders Labourer.
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 06 November 08 15:10 GMT (UK)
Given the oldest kids ages and PoBs, I'd say this was the couple who married in 1887  ... its not the Alfred whose father was Martin, and its not the Arthur we originally looked at !


BUT it has the Bromley / Bow link you mentioned   ::)

1901 -  RG13/1565; Folio: 77; Page: 12 - Stratford, West Ham
149, Tennyson Rd

 
Alfred Barker 37  Head Commercial Traveller born London
Mary A Barker 34  Wife London

Alfred E Barker 12  son Bow
Laura M Barker 8 dau Bromley
Elsie A Barker 6  dau do
Edward H Barker 3  son Upton Park
Alfred C Barker 5 months  Stratford

Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: mudrick on Monday 17 November 08 14:17 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately I think I may have the wrong arthur barker,I'm not sure if he had a middle name as he only signs it arthur barker his wifes name was Mary Adelaide Yeo before they were married and they lived in West Ham and then Leytonstone in later years.So if any one can find the arthur barker I'm looking for it would be great.He was something to do with a brush company thanks
mudrick
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 17 November 08 14:50 GMT (UK)
Hi,


My posting from 5 November has a Mary Adelaide Yeo marrying in 1887; possible groom  Alfred Barker............not Arthur Barker.

That is the only marriage shown for a Mary Adelaide Yeo on Free BMD (up to 1930).

Nanny Jan
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Necromancer on Monday 17 November 08 16:47 GMT (UK)
did you see the chap whose father was Martin in the previous details ?
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 17 November 08 16:54 GMT (UK)


A copy of the marriage cert of Mary Adelaide Yeo might solve the puzzle!   :-\


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: barker family essex
Post by: Henham on Sunday 30 November 08 14:43 GMT (UK)
There are two web sites which may assist in search of Barker family.

www.henhamhistory.org and www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk.  Both are run by volunteers who have an interest in local history inc genealogy. 

Neither site conducts research on behalf of someone but they keep a private list of people interested in the same names, the may be able to assist in your search.