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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Pilgarlic on Wednesday 29 October 08 13:09 GMT (UK)
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Hello
This photo belonged to my grandad. The writing on the back of the photo said it was his friend at Garlinge, Kent.
I can't make out the full writing on the side of the truck.
I read it so far as -
? J Fasham
Dairy Farmer
? ?
? Margate
Can anyone read the full writing ?
Pilgarlic
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The first two lines are the same as on the shop awning.
G J Fasham Dairy Farmer.
David
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Thanks David
Yes the 1st two lines are the same as the shop awning.
I could not make out the 1st initial. G J Fasham it is then !
I wonder if a street name is on the truck also ?
Pilgarlic
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I think it says
G J Fasham
Dairy Farmer
Alfred? Rd or Dr
final town is, I believe, too long for Margate, and looks like 2 words to me. I can see the g you mention towards the end of the second word. It's not Leigh is it?
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Thanks for your help Igorstav.
I see what you mean about Alfred Rd. Could well be :-\
I still believe the last word to be Margate because Garlinge is a supberb of Margate.
Pilgarlic
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It just seems so long a word to be Margate.
I keep looking and I can see what I think is a capital in the middle. The very first letter does look like an M, though.
Don't know Kent well enough!
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I see two words at the bottom.
As i say Garlinge is so close to Margate. I am definately going for Margate as the last word.
The writing is very blurry in this photo :-\
Pilgarlic
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Pilgarlic, sorry, think I misunderstood you.
the last line says
? Margate
Yes, I think I agree! Don't know what the ? is though
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Yes thats right Igorstav.
? Margate
Glad we agree :D
Pilgarlic
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I see 2 words in the last line - the 1st one staring with a Y or B and ending with an ORK or OCK and then a 2nd word starting with a capital which may be Margate although it is squished.
It's really hard to see.
Karen
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Thanks Karen.
Yes i can now see the 1st word on the bottom line as YBork.
Problem is it does not make sense does it. :-\
Pilgarlic
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Hello Pigarlic,
Could you do a scan of just the door area at 600 ppi , it might be easier to read.
Jim
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How about Approach Rd. as the line above? below might be a father or son.
1929 Margate Commercial directory (http://www.janetandrichardsgenealogy.co.uk/margate_1929_commercial_f.htm)
Fasham Reginald John dairyman (Belle Vue Dairy) 71 Approach Road Cliftonville
Fasham E T Ltd grocers 106 Ramsgate Road Margate
Fasham E T Ltd grocers 204 Northdown Road Cliftonville
Fasham E T Ltd grocers & post office 252, 254, 256 & 258 Northdown Road Cliftonville
Fasham E T Ltd 1 Arnold Road Cliftonville
Fasham E T Ltd 127 Canterbury Road Westbrook
Fasham E T Ltd Fern Villa Garlinge
Fasham E T Ltd 1 High Street Garlinge
Fasham E T Ltd outfitters 221 Northdown Road Cliftonville
Fasham E T Ltd drapers High Street Garlinge
Fasham E T Ltd motor garage Harold Garage Harold Road Cliftonville
Fasham John A dairy farmer Hospital Farm Old Green Road Cliftonville
Fasham Reginald John dairyman (Belle Vue Dairy) 71 Approach Road Cliftonville
Fasham Reginald John dairyman (Belle Vue Dairy) 111 Northdown Road Cliftonville
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Hi Jim and Karen.
I will rescan the door as you request Jim. Will have to set the scanner up for that.
Excellent find Karen :D
That does indeed look like the word Approach :)
Something has cropped up and ive got to pop out. I will get back to you on this latest find etc.
Pilgarlic
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Can anyone date the truck?
If it actually reads Approach Rd. then it appears the diary was no longer in family hand by 1936.
1936 Margate Commercial Dir.
Thanet Farmers Dairies Ltd Belle Vue Dairy, late Fashams, dairymen 71 Approach Road Margate
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if the Reg plate is legible, might be able to pin it down to a range of years .....
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Of course looking at the photo again I realise it is R.J. Fasham on the truck and not G.J.
This must be the Reginald John.
In 1936 he is here:
Fasham Reginald John Flete Farm Flete Rd. Margate
In the 1881 UK census I may have found him working as a milkman for a James Horn, also milkman and living with him at Thanet Cottage Drapers Road, Margate. His birth year is abt. 1863. The middle name isn't noted so I can't prove it is the same person but most probable.
Karen
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Thanks all.
Yes Karen i think it is R J Fasham. You have done very well :)
My grandad was born in Garlinge in 1912. I was thinking his 'friend' would be roughly the same age as him.
Here are a couple more scans of the door area at 600 ppi.
Pilgarlic
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Will tackle your new scan in a moment but hearing your Grandad was born 1912 makes me think "his friend" was likley a son or Grandson of R. J. Fasham and the truck has the company name on it.
Perhaps if you check some later censuses you can find the friend living with R.J. That would at least confirm that we're barking up the right tree ;) .
Karen
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The Approach Rd. seems to fit but the rest is still very blurred. The last line definately contains 2 words though and the 2nd does look like Margate.
Karen
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Yes Karen i definately think you have the right R J Fasham which was an excellent find.
I agree that my grandad's friend was most probably a son or grandson or even just worked for R J Fasham.
Yes it is still very blurry. Approach Rd seems to be a very good fit.
I will have to renew my Ancestry.co.uk subscription again. It is so annoying not having access to census records etc.
Pilgarlic
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I know what you mean regarding Ancestry. It's a great help when you need it but way too expensive in my opinion.
Good luck!
Karen
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Thanks Karen :)
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This is 100% Appraoch Road, I used to live here. I can walk that way and take a picture for you if you like.
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E T Fasham is Edward Tofts Fasham, he was Mayor of Margate in 1927.
Is he a relation of yours then? I ask as I have pictures of him and his obituary.
His father was the first person to be baptised in Holy Trinity Church in 1827.
Edward died 1936, hence his business being sold.
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I am researching the Potts family. Edward Tofts Fasham was married to Mary Blanche Potts. I would love to see his photo/obituary.
Nicky
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The Approach Rd. seems to fit but the rest is still very blurred. The last line definately contains 2 words though and the 2nd does look like Margate.
Karen
Do you think it could be "Cliftonville, Margate"?
Mike.
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Do you think it could be "Cliftonville, Margate"?
Mike.
That would be my reckoning as well Mike, supported by ......
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=approach+Road+%09Cliftonville&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
Gordon
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Hello this is my 1st post on this site The Truck in your photo belonged to my Great Grandpa R.J.Fasham dairyman Reg, my mother will be with me for Christmas and she can remember the truck and lots of other information, My grandma was born Cynthia Winefred Fasham and married Jarvis Charles Ovenden, my mother was born Marian Cynthia ovenden and the family farm was Fleet farm vincent road Manston Kent, England. My mother thinks the shop is in Saint peters Thanet Kent, My uncle, Douglas Raymond ovenden directed me to this site saying you had a Photo of my Grandma Cynthia taken with her parents, My Auntie: Born Valerie Winifred ovenden has the same photo, i hope i can fill in some gaps when my mother arrives to visit we will be in touch
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Hi Andy and welcome to Rootschat...be careful not to name people who are still living...When you have made 3 posts you can send a PM ( Personal message)to Pilgarlic by clicking onto the icon underneath his name to exchange details.
Carol
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Hi There
I have recently posted many picture of E T Fasham's shop in Garlinge that may interest you.
They are within this album
Regards
Suzannah
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.485644281470801.99797.192776400757592&type=3
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Hello Andy
Thank you for the information you have provided.
My grandad's name was George Richard Sturges born 1912 at Garlinge. He lived at the children's home at Manston which is where Fleet Farm was.
Perhaps your family might recognize his name seeing as he was a friend of R J Fasham or another member of your family as stated on the back of the photo.
Pilgarlic