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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: jamemcca on Monday 27 October 08 20:06 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any info or connection concerning a Finlay McCallum born in 1764 who married Christian Campbell in 1792. Childrens names were:
John born 1793
Elizabeth born 1795
Catharine born 1798
Duncan born 1800 immigrated to Canada in 1833
Archibald born 1802
Margaret born 1804 married Duncan Anderson and immigarted to Canada
James born 1806 married Elizabeth Atcherley and immigrated to Canada
Isabella born 1810 married John McGibbon and immigrated to Canada
Finlay born 1813 married Jane Laidlaw and immigrated to Canada
Janet born 1815 married James Anderson and immigrated to Canada
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I don't have any info on the McCallums, but if it's possible I would like to know more about James (1806) and particularly his wife Elizabeth Atcherley. Do you know where and when they married, when they migrated to Canada, and if they had any children?
Thanks,
Steve
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hello
James and Elizabeth came to Canada in the 1830's. James died in 1863, Elizabeth died in 1865. They married in Scotland (dont know parrish) and they had no children.
Jamie
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Jamie
I have been unable to reply to you again under Menzies. The sister of William Menzies in Scotland was Caroline Menzies. Do not know if she had another name.
Wilma
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Hi Jamie
Thanks for the info. Very intriguing! I'll have to do some digging and see if I can work out which Elizabeth Atcherley that was. I know a few of the Atcherleys migrated to Canada, but I wasn't aware of any who had done so that early on. Or of any who traveled north of border to Scotland. Fascinating stuff.
Cheers,
Steve
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Re James McCallum and Elizabeth Atcherley
They are found on the 1851 census of Canada in East Oxford Township, Oxford County, Ontario. James is a farmer, married, age 47 giving him a birth year of abt 1805 born Scotland. Religion Free Church. Elizabeth is age 53, giving her a birth year of abt 1799, born England. Religion Plymouth Brethren
Note ages are at next birthday, and Elizabeth is born in England not Scotland.
You could also check the LDS Pedigree Resource file.
I am researching the complete Atcherley family and have James and Elizabeth in my strays file and am unable to attach them to the main tree at this time. The Atcherley family mainly comes from Shropshire.
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Looking for any info or connection concerning a Finlay McCallum born in 1764 who married Christian Campbell in 1792. Childrens names were:
John born 1793
Elizabeth born 1795
Catharine born 1798
Duncan born 1800 immigrated to Canada in 1833
Archibald born 1802
Margaret born 1804 married Duncan Anderson and immigarted to Canada
James born 1806 married Elizabeth Atcherley and immigrated to Canada
Isabella born 1810 married John McGibbon and immigrated to Canada
Finlay born 1813 married Jane Laidlaw and immigrated to Canada
Janet born 1815 married James Anderson and immigrated to Canada
Hi do you know which part of Perthshire they were from - Killin or Balquhidder?? If so I might be able to help.
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"Hi do you know which part of Perthshire they were from - Killin or Balquhidder?? If so I might be able to help. "
they were from both of these places in addition to Fortingall, Kenmore and Loch Tay.
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Hi Jamie
Have had a quick look at the IGI and I see they were married in Kenmore and the 3 children I looked at were christened in Kenmore too. What is the Killin and Fortingall and Balquhidder connection!
have you obtained the marriage doc from Scotlands people - does it say whether one or both of them was from Kenmore?
val
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Duncan McCallum (born 1800, immigrated to Canada in 1833, died 1883) married Susan Menzies (born 1801, died 1876). Susan Menzies was from Fortingall. Duncan McCallum was from Kenmore. Susan Menzies' parents were James Menzies and Margaret.
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do you have any further information on them? They were my great great grand parents
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Catherine McCallum and John McKenzie had a daughter Anne born c1820 Kenmore Perth Scotland. Anne McKenzie married James Stewart 1845 Kenmore Perth Scotland.
James Stewart was the great grandson of Janet Menzies of Kirktown of Weem Fortingall. Anne McKenzie Stewart died 1870 Auchloe Fortingall Perth Scotland.
Would love to know more about Catherine McCallum's family to add to family tree
Abi - Australia
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Catherine McCallum and John McKenzie had a daughter Anne born c1820 Kenmore Perth Scotland. Anne McKenzie married James Stewart 1845 Kenmore Perth Scotland.
James Stewart was the great grandson of Janet Menzies of Kirktown of Weem Fortingall. Anne McKenzie Stewart died 1870 Auchloe Fortingall Perth Scotland.
Would love to know more about Catherine McCallum's family to add to family tree
Abi - Australia
Are you sure that we hav the same Catherine?
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No I am sorry I don't know for certain they are the same Catherine, but how many Catherine McCallums around the right age would have been at Kenmore at that time? I'm just guessing.
Thought the information supplied might have sparked a connection if one existed. Sorry.
Abi
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interesting.
I came across a possible connection with Stewarts but havent been able to confirm lineage.
do you have any further info on Catherine McCallum? There certainly were a bunch of people with that name there
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Hi Abi,
I am doing some research on my wife's ancestors and noticed that you are related to the same McCallum's. John McKenzie and Catherine McCallum were married 22 Dec 1816 in Kenmore. I have six of their children from the census records; Catherine 1824, Margaret 1826, Jean 1828, Jane 1832, Duncan 1834 and Christian 1840. My wife's ancestor is Margaret 1826. I did not have Anne listed since she did not show up on any of the census's with her family. I thought there were other children since the parents were married in 1816 and my first child was born in 1824. How did you make the connection with Anne to her parents? Marriage certificate maybe? Do you know if there are any more children in this family?
Harv
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Hi,
I am researching the McKenzies and McCallums in the Kenmore/Fortingall area. My Gt.Grandmother was Catherine McKenzie b.Comrie c.1848 who had a child (my grandfather) to James McCallum b.Fortingall c.1842. Catherines parents were John McKenzie and Mary Ferguson both of Kenmore b. c.1821 -m 1846. John had a brother Duncan b. c.1835 and a sister Christian b.c.1840.(from an 1851 census)
Although John does not appear on the 1841 census of the John McKenzie and Catharine McCallum,(m. 1816) I believe he was their first son. I can't find some birth records. Perth Library says that Kenmore records are a bit erratic.
John McKenzie(b. 1786) His father was also a John McKenzie b. Kindrochad, Ardtalnaig 1767, m. Ann McEwen.1782 Killin. His father was Duncan McKenzie m.Margaret Crerar.
Re James McCallum, he was an aerated water manufacturer/brewer in Stirling d.1899. His father was Donald McCallum Road Surfaceman m. Catherine Menzies. living at Corrychraobhie, Fortingall.
The 1881 Census for Falkirk also shows a John McCallum b.c 1843 Fortingall working as a brewery foreman living in Glebe Street, which is where the Aitken's Brewery was. There must be a connection there.
Al
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Hi Al,
Thank you for the additional information on John.
Your ancestor John (1821) was another child of John McKenzie (1787-1873) & Catherine McCallum (1799) who were married 22 Dec 1816 at Kenmore. John was born about 1787 at Kenmore and died 15 Jan 1873 at Kenmore and Catherine was born about 1799 at Fortingal, death date unknown.
Do you know who Catherine McCallum's parents were? I have an idea but am not sure.
I have John's (1787-1873) parents as John McKenzie born 14 Jul 1754 at Kenmore and Anne McEwen born at Killin. John & Anne were married 23 Nov 1782 at Killin. You have John (husband of Anne) being born in 1767 making him 15 years old when they were married in 1782. I am not sure of Anne's parents or birth date since I have five possibilities.
I have John's (1754) parents as Donald McKenzie & Janet McGregor whereas you have Duncan McKenzie & Margaret Crerar. It appears more research is needed here.
Harv
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Hi Harv,
Thanks for the info. I think you are right about John McKenzie b 1767. That doesn't look likely.
Re Catharine McCallum, The 1816 OPR only indicates that bride and groom were of Kenmore Parish and no details of parents. An 1841 Census only gives birthplace as Perthshire unnfortunately.
On a search for McCallums birth/baptism records in Kenmore, I found 2 Catharines, 16/01/1798 of Finlay McCallum/Christian Campbell and 22/01/1798 of Donald McCallum/Christian Stewart.
I have yet to trawl through Fortingall. There seems to be a rash of McCallums in there.
Al