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Title: Watts Thomas-Wistantow
Post by: wattsy1 on Saturday 25 October 08 18:51 BST (UK)
I'm researching the Watts line. Currently drawn a blank at Thomas Watts b.1833 Wistantow. He married Mary ? of Clun and later moved to Leominster and became a police constable.
Any Watts leads in the area appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Watts Thomas-Wistantow
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 26 October 08 15:49 GMT (UK)
Hi,

How about this,

   
Thomas WATTS
Christening:  05 JAN 1830   Wistanstow, Shropshire
Father:  Samuel WATTS
Mother:  Jane


1841 HO107/920/25  f.18  p.1  Winstanstow
Broken Stones

Saml WATTS    35    Ag Lab
Jane               35
Thos              11            All born in county.



Possibly Thomas in 1851 
1851  HO107/1983  f.125  p.6  Clun

John FRANCIS      Head    M    78    Shoemaker employ 1 man     
Jane                   Wife    M    53
Thomas                Son    U    24    Shoemaker
Jane                   Daur    U    22    Seamstress 
Elizabeth M          Daur    U    17    at home
John                    Son    U    16    Errand boy H             All born Shropshire Clun
Thomas WATTS             U     21    Jorn Shoemaker        Shropshire Whistantow
 
 

Marriage
Thomas WATTS    Jun Q 1856    Shrewsbury    6a  1195
Mary BEAUMOND with same details.


Mary BEAMOND
Christening:  11 JUN 1825   Clun, Shropshire
Father:  John BEAMOND
Mother:  Susanna


1861  RG9/1818  f.75  p.23  Holmer, Herefordshire 
Widemarsh Common

Thomas WATTS            Head    Mar    30    Assistant Engine Fitter    Salop
Mary                           Wife    Mar    35    Dressmaker                    Salop
Charles Hillary                Son              4                                       Clun Salop
George Thomas              Son              3                                       Clun Salop
Mary Hannah                 Daur             8months                               Herefordshire Leominster
Susannah BEAUMONT  mother-in-law  widow  75    Farmer's widow       Lydbury North Salop


 
1871  RG10/2715  f.45  p.15  Leominster, Herefordshire
102 Bridge St

Thomas WATTS    Head    40    Police Officer    Shropshire Wistantow
Mary                   Wife    46                                "  "        Clun
Charles H             Son     14    Scholar                   "  "          "  "
George Thos         Son     13      "  "                       "  "          "  "
Alice M               Daur      6      "  "                  Radnorshire Bleddfa
James R               Son      5      "  "                        "  "          "  "

   
Regards
Daisy
Title: Re: Watts Thomas-Wistantow
Post by: wattsy1 on Sunday 26 October 08 17:15 GMT (UK)
 :D Goodness Daisy where did all that come from? So grateful to you, although some dates a bit strange, Thomas seems to have been christened three years before he was born!
What is 'Broken Stones'? is that a place/house name?

Thanks once again, brilliant help.
Martin
Title: Re: Watts Thomas-Wistantow
Post by: Daisypetal on Monday 27 October 08 16:01 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I found the info on Ancestry, Findmypast and Familysearch.

Broken Stones is the address given in the 1841 census, it doesn't seem to be a house as there are more than one households dittoed with this address. The description of the enumeration district is,

"That of the parish of Wistantow on the left side of Wistantow Lane to Whittals & Bushmoor, together with Broken Stones and the village of Weststone and the other parts of ??moor Common."

The Shropshire Hills Discovery Centre is just down the road from Wistanstow at Craven Arms, they might be able to tell you more about Broken Stones :)

http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/discover.nsf


If I have found the right family, I think the christening date is right. Although Thomas is 48 (b.1833) in 1881, in 1891 he is 60 and in 1901 he is 71, (let me know if you need these), so all the other censuses make him b.1830-1831.

This looks like his death,

Thomas WATTS    age: 77    Dec Q 1907    Leominster    6a  317


Daisy


Title: Re: Watts Thomas-Wistantow
Post by: wattsy1 on Monday 27 October 08 16:52 GMT (UK)
Daisy,
Many thanks for this, certainly looks like the right family :)
I do have a query re. the 1851 'family' details though, as you say 'possibly' Thomas (aged 21). Is the head of this family a Francis or Watts?

Thanks for the details of death, great help that one, clears up a family mystery as well!
Wattsy1
Title: Re: Watts Thomas-Wistantow
Post by: Daisypetal on Monday 27 October 08 18:10 GMT (UK)
In 1851 Thomas is living with the FRANCIS family, there is no relationship given but I would hazard a guess thet he is the 1 man employed by Head of Household John FRANCIS.

 :)
Daisy