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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: Fergie38 on Friday 24 October 08 23:19 BST (UK)
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I am descended from the Fergusons of the Parish of Kincardine. One of the 'Moss Lairds' who came south from Balquhidder to take part in the clearing of Kincardine Moss.
On the 1841 census, my ancestor, Peter Ferguson is shown as a farmer at Robertson Lane.
He was born on 18th January, 1801 and was the son of Donald and Murran.
Peter had siblings called Janet (b1792) Robert (b1795) Mary ( b1797) Catherine (b1798) John (b1803) Alexander (b1805) and Donald (b1807)
The 1814 census carried out by Blairdrummond Estates show a 12 year old Peter living with a Donald and Catherine Ferguson in the area of 'Hill of Drip'. I will assume that Catherine is Donald's scond wife.
Donald and his family vanish after 1814 but by chance I came across the passenger list fir the Brig 'Sophia' sailing from Greenock in 1818 and there they were, Donald (Daniel) and family on their way to Canada. At least I think it's them, or at least some of them. You can see the ships list Here (http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/sophia1818.htm)
But I'm stuck after that although I would like to know what they did and where they went after they got there.
My ancestor Peter, married Ann McNaughtan on 24th November 1824.
Anyone wants more info on that family, then just get in touch.
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Robertson Lane Farm
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Robertson Lane Farm with the old 'Moss' School in the right background.
Cheers.
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Hi
I havent done much work on the Fergusons on my tree but I have some in the right geographical area! I also have many many other ancestors on the Moss - McFarlane, Dow, McCall, Stewart, Macfarlane, Robertson, King, Fisher, etc
Anyway your post caught my eye because I have some of the same names ... and we may have a connection somewhere! I have Alexander Ferguson born 1801 who married Janet Fisher from Killin in Kincardine in Menteith in 1839. Children Peter James and Isabella. My link is through Isabella. There may have been more children. They were in Doune main St in 1841 and by 1851 in Sommers lane on the moss. Isabel moved to Rossburn lane and was living in Kirk Lane by the time she died. Have you come across this family? Cheers
Val
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Hi Val.
Been having a look at my lot to see if there was any connection to your Fergusons, but can't find a link.
Not yet anyway.....
Cheers.
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Hello Val, I'm new to this site after searching for Kirk Lane on Google! My Gran was called Isabella Macfarlane Rutherford nee McCall.She was born in Kirk lane in 1912/13 & her mother died when she was an infant.I remember Gran mentioning a Helen Dow & I think she was a cousin.Gran lived on Sommer Lane after marrying Robert Rutherford a local gamekeeper But returned to Kirk Lane after He was killed in the war.Her sister Jessie married Bill Morrison & they also lived on Kirk Lane In one of the cottages as you turn onto the lane.
i am pretty sure we are related in some way! I'm wondering if the old lady in your photo is my Gran's relative on her mother's side.
Regards, Morag
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Hi!
I am sure we must have a connection.... what was your gran's father's name?
Will pm you..
Val
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Hi There!
Have you been able to confirm that your Fergusons of the Parish of Kincardine originate in Balquhidder? I'm not related, my interest is as administrator of the Fergus(s)on DNA Project http://dna.cfsna.net/
Cheers,
Colin Ferguson
Clan Fergusson Society of North America
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Hello Colin.
Yes.
Cheers.
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Hi again Fergie of Torbrex .... a whilie back noo !
Nice PC type photo of Kincardine Parish Church which is linked to Gargunnock Parish Church where I was an Elder until 2000 when I emigrated to Cyprus ... I made my one and only appearance as Santa Claus for a Sunday School party there in the 1990s in the village hall down left of the photo at the 'V' junction to Thornhill.
Cheers'
John aka DDJJAKE
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Hi,
I'm new to family tree searching so sorry if this reads a little strange.
I think I have found a John Ferguson in Kincardine, Doune, who married an Isobella Stewart. They had 4 children,
Mary Ann b. 1826
Margaret Stewart b. 1828
Henrietta b. 1831
Walter Stewart b.1835
Might these be part of your Fergusons of Kincardine?
Thanks
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Hello DDjjake..
Nice to hear from you again. Glad you liked the photo and that it brought back some happy memories for you.
The photo was taken from the grave site on my great grandfather, Peter Ferguson. I intend to try and get some better shots next time I am there and the weather is OK.
gm3rxu ...
Welcome to the forum. I'm sure you will enjoy the camaraderie and knowledge that you will find here in abundance.
I do have a John Ferguson who was born to Donald Ferguson and Marran Ferguson in 1803. Unfortunately I have no further details on him.
Cheers.
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Thank you,
and thank you for the welcome. No these names did not appear for that period in the family I came across. I have been amazed at just how many Ferguson families do appear in the records for Kincardine, Kilmadock and the Brig o' Turk area for this period.
Many thanks
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hi I think your family were from Thornhill? Not same part of Kincardine as Ferhies lot
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Thanks Vair,
I have been trying, as a side issue, to untangle the next generation of this family but it is obvious now that I need to get into some real records and keep them separate from all the other Fergusons.
Many thanks
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Hi Fergie..and everyone else.. ;D
Have had another look at my Fergusons !!
Have a Donald/Daniel c1765 possibly Callander, who married Marrian Ferguson 16 Aug 1784 Calander.
Children - Ann 1785, Elizabeth 1787, John 1789, Catherine 1791, Peter 1793, James 1795, Janet 1797, Ann 1799, Donald/Daniel 1801.
My interest is through Donald c1801 who married Margaret mcLaren 1835 Callander.
Any ties in anywhere ???
All the best Patvp
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Nice one Patvp, I thought you had hit my nail on the head with that.
But then I read it again, s l o w l y.
The Peter Ferguson I have for that era was born in 1801 and none of the dates match my chart.
I have sent you a copy of my early chart via email.
Cheers.
(oops...Sorry Pat, I thought I had a copy of your email address but I was wrong.)
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Hi folks ,
I was wondering what was the date when the Kincardine parish church in this photo was built ?
And is there someone who will do grave site look up in this parish ?
Thank you for your time. Taylor1832
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Hi Taylor
It was built 1814-1816
You can read about it and the mediaeval church here
http://arts.st-andrews.ac.uk/~cmas/site.php?id=128532
What would you like looked up? I have the MI book for that cemetery and notes about many of the oher graves I made on visits. I might be able to help.
Val
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Hi Val,
Thank you for the information on the church, it would seem to be the spot that my 5th gen grandparents would have been married. George Taylor and Ann Mcarthur m. May 12, 1816 .
Duncan Mcarthur and Margaret Sands has 10 children christened in this parish ,ranging from 1780 to 1803.
At the end of some christenings entries is the towns name . Craigfranky is one I found on the north side of
Thornhill . Burliston is a town I have not yet found .
Duncan's children are Janet, Helen, Margt., Jean, Duncan, Mary, Robert, Arthur and Elis.
Could there be any family members in this parish's cemetery ?
Thank you again for your help. Taylor
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Hi
I have some Sands in my tree but not this one! There is another researcher who has done a huge amount of research on the Sands family from this area - I will ask him to contact you. If you give me your email address by pm I will send you a transcription of all Sands burials in Thornhill and Kincardine if you like?
Val
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hi I think your family were from Thornhill? Not same part of Kincardine as Ferhies lot
I have yet to find church records of Thornhill for my Janet Ferguson/Thomas Brown parents of Agnes and thus I'm stuck in 1792-ish without knowing whether she had siblings or not. No siblings names means no progress as to Janet Ferguson parents.
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I have a Margaret Ferguson - b. 1874 in Doune, who was the daughter of Alexander Ferguson. The only other Ferguson is Robert who was a blacksmith that lived near Thornhill and married a Helen Bryce. Are these somehow related to the other Ferguson previously mentioned?
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Nope...nothing to do with my lot.
Happy hunting.
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When I see Sophia and 1818 I immediately think of Beckwith Township, Lanark County as a lot of the original civilian settlers arrived in 1818 on three ships - Curlew, Sophia and Jane.
The Donald Ferguson on the Sophia passenger list is almost certain to be Danial Ferguson who was granted Lot 9 (south-west part) on Concession 4. If this is your fellow, he arrived with wife and 4 children.
He must be linked to Robert Ferguson and Peter Ferguson who had adjacent Lots.
Robert Ferguson was probably the brother of Donald (Daniel) as in 1828 Daniel tried to buy Lot 10 Concession 9 to support his brother Robert's family. Robert had died leaving 4 children, the oldest only 9 years old and their mother already deceased.
If these are your families then 'Nos Racines' gives additional information about them.
The following is a link to the appendix sgowing civilian settlers for 1818.
http://www.ourroots.ca/page.aspx?id=1058194&qryID=7f1cb2d9-01b8-4c1e-bbd8-fe018593c3cc
Hope this helps,
Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)
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What a marvel you are Throth.
I have wondered for a very long time about what became of Donald and his family on their arrival in Canada so it was great to read your information on them.
I have read parts of the Beckwith book with great interest. There’s certainly lots of info in there.
What I somehow have to do is find out if Donald’s son, Peter returned to Scotland and if any of Donald’s family moved to Saskatchewan.
Many many thanks for your posting.
Oh…and I enjoyed your web site. :)
Cheers.
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I think that your next step might be to contact Bill Mains who runs the "Families of the Derry" website. His family was originally on Concession 5.
Just do a search for "Families of the Derry" and that area of Beckwith Township should come up.
Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)
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Hello
I think I may be related to you through my Mum who has connections to Robertsons Lane and who had a grandmother called Rachel Ferguson. My Mum is a Campbell from Bennetts/Campbells.
I will have to check the family tree that I have done - but not touched for some time.
Regards
Katrina
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Hello Kattywinkle.
Not been doing much with the family tree lately but I would be very interested in your connection with Robertson Lane.
regards.
Robert.