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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) => Topic started by: lyndyloo6 on Tuesday 21 October 08 21:23 BST (UK)
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Hi There,
I wonder if anyone can help us. For 2 years I have been researching my husbands side of the family. Their name was McGoohan/Mcgouchan/magohan/McGooghan. Or probably anything that sounds vaguely like it.
His great grandparents wer Patrick and Sarah McGoohan, Sarah's maiden name was Conway. We know that they got married in Edinburgh under the name of McGowan and lived their lives out in the Cowgate area of Edinburgh. We also know that Patrick had a sister called Mary, who married a Kelly and they also lived in the Cowgate.
We were also able to tell that Ptricks parents were John McGoohan and Bridget, ms Dunigan. We thought that Bridget, c1800 was still in Ireland. We have now found evidence that Bridget McGoohan was in the West Lothian area of Uphall and died at Niddry, Uphall. We also have further evidence that she had a daughter also called Bridget, c1833. Bridget married Edward McCann (also from Ireland) in Linlithgow in 1856 and had several children. Bridget c1858, Margaret, c1861, Mary Angus c1863, Edward, c1870, James c1865, John 1868.
Bridget c1833 died on 11/01/1886 at Simpsons Rows, Uphall, Broxburn.
Can anyone tell me if Simpson Rows are still standingand Where they may be buried. (THey were RC) and if anyone can connect to them.
Thank you in anticipation.
Kind regards,
Lynda
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Lynda,
The area you are interested in (Uphall) is only 5 minutes from where I live. The Catholic Church is St. Nicholas. This Church does not have a burial ground of its own, all burials are in Uphall Graveyard. I had a look for the location of Simpsons Rows but so far no luck, these rows were built for the Shale Oil Industry which has gone a long time ago. so it is likely they moved on to other mining areas in nearby Lanarkshire, I know there are / were McCanns in Whiterigg and Plains.
James.
Will keep looking
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Thank you for this info James. If you find any McGoohans as well I would be grateful.
Regards,
Lynda
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hi lynda my name is edward mccann my great great grandfather was edward mc cann you mention .my great grandfather was james mccann gr gr gr grandparents were bridget dunigan and john mc goochan born in sligo ireland i believe.if you have any more information on them iwould be very interested to hear p.s your husband and i must be related regards from australia
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HI There,
Thanks for your info and yes you must be related to each other. I am having a problem with my computer at home just now and have to buy an new one next week. There is al;so a cousin outside London which I have contact with and I am sure that she will be delighted to hear that we have anoither cousin and may be able to share information. This is the first that we have heard of them coming fom Sligo, as no one here had any idea. I willbe back in touch but you can PM me on my work computer, which is the one I am responding from at the moment.
Kind regards,
Lynda
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Hello RC's,
Can anyone advise me where to look for a cemetrey in Uphall. Uphall I have been advised was not opened until 1893. I am looking for a grave in 1874 in the Uphall area.
Many thanks,
Lynda
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Lynda,
There is another cemetery in Uphall, its in the part called Old Uphall and as the name implies is older than
the present burial ground. But this is a Non Catholic church and yard, there would be no Catholic burials there.
I would think that early Catholic burials would be in Bathgate, 6 or 7 miles away. Here is the History of Bathgate Catholic Church which will give you a picture of the times. I believe Bathgate Priests served the outlying areas.
http://www.saintmary.org.uk/history.htm
James.
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Here is a link to Broxburn Catholic Church, which looked after the affairs of Uphall, but the church here has no burial ground.
http://www.broxburncatholicchurch.co.uk/history/
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Hi Mosstrooper,
Thank you for this information. It has made me think of the marriage cert in 1856, which was in Linlithgow. When I spoke with the lady at West Lothian Cemetries yesterday, she suggested that there would have been no difference as to whether the person was RC or Church of Scotland and that all would have been buried together, but I am not sure about this. I will have a wee look at the information you have sent me.
Many thanks for your help.
Kind regards,
Lynda
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Lynda,
What the lady told you is probably correct where the burial is in a later Municipal Cemetery, like the one in Uphall, but not mixed in graveyards belonging to a Church, you will not find Catholic burials in Presbetarian Churchyards. I would imagine the burial in 1874 would take place in either Bathgate or Linlithgow, only a few miles from Uphall.
James.
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Thank you for your help James. It is very much appreciated.
Kind regrds,
Lynda
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Thank you for your help James. It is very much appreciated.
Kind regrds,
Lynda
Hi There,
I wonder if anyone can help us. For 2 years I have been researching my husbands side of the family. Their name was McGoohan/Mcgouchan/magohan/McGooghan. Or probably anything that sounds vaguely like it.
His great grandparents wer Patrick and Sarah McGoohan, Sarah's maiden name was Conway. We know that they got married in Edinburgh under the name of McGowan and lived their lives out in the Cowgate area of Edinburgh. We also know that Patrick had a sister called Mary, who married a Kelly and they also lived in the Cowgate.
We were also able to tell that Ptricks parents were John McGoohan and Bridget, ms Dunigan. We thought that Bridget, c1800 was still in Ireland. We have now found evidence that Bridget McGoohan was in the West Lothian area of Uphall and died at Niddry, Uphall. We also have further evidence that she had a daughter also called Bridget, c1833. Bridget married Edward McCann (also from Ireland) in Linlithgow in 1856 and had several children. Bridget c1858, Margaret, c1861, Mary Angus c1863, Edward, c1870, James c1865, John 1868.
Bridget c1833 died on 11/01/1886 at Simpsons Rows, Uphall, Broxburn.
Can anyone tell me if Simpson Rows are still standingand Where they may be buried. (THey were RC) and if anyone can connect to them.
Thank you in anticipation.
Kind regards,
Lynda
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Hello,
I have done some research on the McCann family in Broxburn, Uphall parish as well. One of my relations married a daughter of Elizabeth McCann, the eldest of 8 children of Edward McCann and Bridget McGoohan. Elizabeth married George Taylor in 1880 in the Church of Scotland. Their address was 184 Greendykes Rd in Broxburn.
George Taylor (1856-1902) and Elizabeth McCann Taylor (1857-1936) are buried in Lair C46 in Uphall Cemetery. George was from Fife and Elizabeth Uphall.
The second daughter of Edward McCann and Bridget McGoohan was Bridget and did marry a Kelly. Thomas in St Nicholas and John Cantius RC Church Broxburn in 1878.
Thomas Kelly and Bridget McCann Kelly also had a daughter Bridget born 1890 in Broxburn, married Tom McGlone from Sligo in Broxburn in 1913 and immigrated to America, specifically Brooklyn. Their son Tom was a lawyer and respected member of the Scottish community in Brooklyn.
I have not come across a Simpsons Rows in Uphall.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
John
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Hello John,
Thank you so much for this information. It is much appreciated. I have not done much work on this side lately as I kept going round in circles and getting nowhere. It is rather funny as I have a freind who lives in Greendykes road and has done for the last 30 years. She lives up the top of the road at the Albion Cottages.
The only info that I have on Simpsons rows is that they were on the death cert of Bridget McCann,(Mcgoohan). Edward was employed as a labourer at the oil works. They were knocked away years ago.
Kind regards, and a big thank you,
Lynda