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Title: Can't find a birth.
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 20 October 08 13:41 BST (UK)
Any one got any suggestions, I am looking for a birth, got marriage death and army records but cannot find the birth, name in ? is John Thomas Hurd army records give birth as 16/10/1903,death certificate says 16/10/1906 East Bowling,   his parents weren't married at the time father being Thomas hurd and mother Jane Maguire i have looked under the mothers maiden name and tried every permitation but still come up blank. (also tried Bradford record office)
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: Jayne on Monday 20 October 08 14:13 BST (UK)
Hi
Are you sure that the Area of birth is correct, sometimes the mothers were sent away if they were unmarried, and the DOB is correct, Sometimes they lied about their ages so the army records are not always a reliable source for DOBs.

I would spread the search further afield if you havent already

Jayne

Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: ukdescendant on Tuesday 21 October 08 23:29 BST (UK)
There's a John Hurd born in the December qtr of 1904 in York , could this be him ?

Regards
Gill
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: perth tiger on Wednesday 22 October 08 09:05 BST (UK)
theres a john maguire born dec 1906 in bramley, which is very close to east bowling

perth :)
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: Jayne on Wednesday 22 October 08 09:27 BST (UK)
There is a John Thomas Maguire born Manchester Dec 1905

J
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: silver cloud on Wednesday 22 October 08 18:33 BST (UK)
Thanks for all that info the John Hurd for dec 1904 york is no good, I already sent for that and it was wrong. The one from Bramley may be worth pursuing, not sure about the Manchester one.
Thanks to all for help.
Kim
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: Deno on Wednesday 19 November 08 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have only just joined Roots, and have noticed that you have been seeking Hurds of West Yorkshire.
I also have a missing Thomas Hurd, I could not quite follow your posts,
however you said you had an unmarried birth, father Thomas.
Can you tell me any other connections, I would dearly like to find Thomas. :-\

Thanks Denise.
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: silver cloud on Thursday 20 November 08 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Denise which hurd family are you looking for, cos there is a few in yorkshire
Kim
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: Deno on Saturday 22 November 08 18:38 GMT (UK)
Hi
My Hurds originated in Wakefield West Yks, I am back to 1841, and have lost Thomas Hurd, he would have been too old to have a connection with your person, although one never knows.
Your birth and death didn't seem to match up.
Also my Thomas seems to have disapeared in 1841, possibly not dead, as wife is 'Ind. Means' on census,   not widow.
At the moment I am searching every possible avenue.

Denise.
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: Deno on Sunday 08 February 09 23:38 GMT (UK)
Hi there,
I think we had contact a while ago, re  birth of John Thomas Hurd.
 Did you find out anything?
 Over the last few months, I have found that just about all Hurd b.m.d.s in the Wakefield area come from the same line, which I am following.
If you have any Hurds in the 1800s in this area, I may be able to help.
Hope to hear from you.
Deno
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 09 February 09 12:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Deno
My Hurds come from all over Helmsley, Scarboro, Bradford, Sheffield and Leeds.Unless they are cousins or family somewhere along the line.
Kim
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: Deno on Monday 09 February 09 14:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Kim
Leeds Bradford and Wakefield are all very close, and the brothers certainly moved away, even when travel wasn't quite so easy as today.
Have you any details from a census, in this area.?
Where did he marry?
Is his father Thomas on his marriage certificate?
If there is a connection, I will certainly do my bit, to help piece it together.
I am now looking further into the family, and moving away from my original line.
Deno
Title: Re: Can't find a birth.
Post by: silver cloud on Monday 09 February 09 14:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Deno
Yes his father was also John Thomas Hurd and i have done all the census, got everything on his anchestors, just cant trace his birth.
Bye Kim